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KamikazePotato
03/02/20 4:32:59 PM
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Nelson_Mandela
03/02/20 4:36:25 PM
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KamikazePotato posted...
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/485345-biden-said-he-would-contest-nomination-even-if-sanders-leads-in-delegates

Cool, guess I'm not voting this year
heeheeheehee :)

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iiaattgg
03/02/20 4:38:37 PM
#354:


KamikazePotato posted...
https://mobile.twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1234573252221120513

yeah im calling this election in the same fashion that i called 2016 when clinton collapsed at the 911 service

onto 2024! i imagine we will see AOC/Pete and others be the dem frontrunners. the republican side is interesting. will ted be the frontrunner?

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/02/20 4:38:49 PM
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KamikazePotato posted...
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/485345-biden-said-he-would-contest-nomination-even-if-sanders-leads-in-delegates

Cool, guess I'm not voting this year

do you think Bernie would drop out before convention if Biden led him in delegates?

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DoomTheGyarados
03/02/20 4:39:43 PM
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well, I guess Bernie just needs to get 1991 delegates now doesn't he

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/02/20 4:42:24 PM
#357:


iiaattgg posted...


onto 2024! i imagine we will see AOC/Pete and others be the dem frontrunners. the republican side is interesting. will ted be the frontrunner?

It'll be Trump's third term if he's still alive, or one of his kids if he's not

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KamikazePotato
03/02/20 4:42:55 PM
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
do you think Bernie would drop out before convention if Biden led him in delegates?
No, but this is a false equivalence fantasy scenario where Bernie had a nonzero chance of winning a contested convention he isn't the frontrunner in. Bernie would be staying in to exert some policy influence before bowing out and he and everyone else would know this. Biden is going to stay in to literally steal the nomination from someone who got more support, using the establishment as his backing, and fuck that noise.

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iiaattgg
03/02/20 4:43:30 PM
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it actually is kind of sad that if you asked me to place money on who the 2024 republican candidate would be id probably bank on donald

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Nelson_Mandela
03/02/20 4:43:36 PM
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I'm already thinking about Pence/Haley 2028 :)

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LordoftheMorons
03/02/20 4:43:56 PM
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Neither ones gonna drop unless the other gets a straight up majority (Bernie will absolutely try to make a deal with Warren if he needs to). Please at least wait for something to actually happen before deciding to sit out the general :(

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HashtagSEP
03/02/20 4:45:02 PM
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Why are people just looking for a reason to not vote before anything even happens

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LordoftheMorons
03/02/20 4:45:24 PM
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Nelson_Mandela posted...
I'm already thinking about Pence/Haley 2028 :)
Lmao Pence is gonna walk out of the Trump administration with a knife in his back. No way is he not a fall guy (quite possibly for Coronavirus if stuff doesnt get under control quickly).

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iiaattgg
03/02/20 4:45:47 PM
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HashtagSEP posted...
Why are people just looking for a reason to not vote before anything even happens
were talking about 2024 now, 2020 is over and done with

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Nelson_Mandela
03/02/20 4:46:46 PM
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LordoftheMorons posted...
Lmao Pence is gonna walk out of the Trump administration with a knife in his back. No way is he not a fall guy (quite possibly for Coronavirus if stuff doesnt get under control quickly).
Why would anyone need to be stabbed if Trump is a 2-term president?

Trump replacing RBG with a conservative will make him the most successful president for The Movement since it started

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GildedFool
03/02/20 4:47:58 PM
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Is it not looking highly increasingly likely now that one of them *does* get a majority? How many delegates do we think Bloomberg/Warren are going to take home?

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Dancedreamer
03/02/20 4:48:25 PM
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I'm not sitting out the general unless Bloomberg is the nominee (or rather I'll write-in Elizabeth Warren unless there's a major write-in campaign for Bernie). But don't expect my money if Mr. Moderate is the candidate.

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LordoftheMorons
03/02/20 4:49:35 PM
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GildedFool posted...
Is it not looking highly increasingly likely now that one of them *does* get a majority? How many delegates do we think Bloomberg/Warren are going to take home?
Really depends on how complete strategic voting is. I think its very clear now that there are two real contenders, but if strategic voting is low it could go the other way where all four of them are hitting 15% in a lot of places.

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DoomTheGyarados
03/02/20 4:50:11 PM
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Btw. Support people in local elections that match your values. Bernie's just the tip of the spear. How we change this country isn't president, but by over time getting people that match these ideals.

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ChaosTonyV4
03/02/20 4:52:00 PM
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LordoftheMorons
03/02/20 4:53:27 PM
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Okay, Ill bite: explain the Harry Potter book

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KamikazePotato
03/02/20 4:53:34 PM
#372:


Trump absolutely pushes for a 3rd term run (and gets it) if he wins re-election. The GOP won't be happy about it but they're too cowardly to oppose him.

HashtagSEP posted...
Why are people just looking for a reason to not vote before anything even happens

I've been pretty consistent with saying that I'm not voting if Bernie gets the most delegates and doesn't get the nom, and also that I don't think Bernie gets the nom if he exists the primary process with a weak plurality. Last few days seem to point significantly towards the latter being the likely scenario.

Plus, posting in this topic is also just a matter of venting frustration. My family is conservative so I don't have many places to talk about politics lol

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iiaattgg
03/02/20 4:53:35 PM
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...
this is hilarious why is he holding a harry potter book

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Nelson_Mandela
03/02/20 4:54:28 PM
#374:


https://twitter.com/CNBCnow/status/1234585559579942913

:)

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Mewtwo59
03/02/20 4:54:46 PM
#375:


Remember, if Trump can run for a third term, so can Obama. Obama isn't losing that one.

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Wanglicious
03/02/20 4:55:22 PM
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GildedFool posted...
Is it not looking highly increasingly likely now that one of them *does* get a majority? How many delegates do we think Bloomberg/Warren are going to take home?

with these dropouts?
at least 15% in most states.

which means they get delegates.
i look forward to the Biden/Warren ticket.


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iiaattgg
03/02/20 4:55:41 PM
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Nelson_Mandela posted...
https://twitter.com/CNBCnow/status/1234585559579942913

:)
shocker

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HashtagSEP
03/02/20 4:55:48 PM
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https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/tulsi-gabbards-nine-supporters-urge-her-to-drop-out-of-race

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iiaattgg
03/02/20 4:56:04 PM
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Mewtwo59 posted...
Remember, if Trump can run for a third term, so can Obama. Obama isn't losing that one.
that would be an amazing election cycle

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KamikazePotato
03/02/20 4:56:10 PM
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Mewtwo59 posted...
Remember, if Trump can run for a third term, so can Obama. Obama isn't losing that one.
"A President can run for third time. Make it law."

"What about Obama?"

"Oh shit right. A President can run for a third term if they are still currently in office. Make it law."

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Not_an_Owl
03/02/20 4:57:44 PM
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...
There is no way in hell Illinois goes for Trump, but otherwise this is a very legitimate fear.

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iiaattgg
03/02/20 4:58:07 PM
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KamikazePotato posted...
"A President can run for third time. Make it law."

"What about Obama?"

"Oh shit right. A President can run for a third term if they are still currently in office. Make it law."
this is going to sound horrifying but if a president is doing a good job i personally would vote for him a third time

not saying thats how i feel about DJT but im not a totally close minded to the concept of 3rd terms for worthy people

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Wanglicious
03/02/20 4:58:48 PM
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strangely enough, i'm not sure how well tony gets that meme.
it basically goes harry potter's the only book liberals ever read.


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DoomTheGyarados
03/02/20 4:58:51 PM
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iiaattgg posted...
this is going to sound horrifying but if a president is doing a good job i personally would vote for him a third time

not saying thats how i feel about DJT but im not a totally close minded to the concept of 3rd terms for worthy people

I mean honestly the reason this is an amendment because everyone was afraid a young fdr would get in and never let go <_<

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RaidenGarai
03/02/20 4:59:22 PM
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KamikazePotato posted...
Trump absolutely pushes for a 3rd term run (and gets it) if he wins re-election. The GOP won't be happy about it but they're too cowardly to oppose him.

I've been pretty consistent with saying that I'm not voting if Bernie gets the most delegates and doesn't get the nom, and also that I don't think Bernie gets the nom if he exists the primary process with a weak plurality. Last few days seem to point significantly towards the latter being the likely scenario.

Plus, posting in this topic is also just a matter of venting frustration. My family is conservative so I don't have many places to talk about politics lol
Out of curiosity, what were your thoughts in 2016 when Bernie was trying to convince the superdelegates for the nomination even though Clinton had a delegate lead?

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KamikazePotato
03/02/20 5:00:48 PM
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Oh sure they'll get right on that

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NFUN
03/02/20 5:01:02 PM
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iiaattgg posted...
this is hilarious why is he holding a harry potter book
https://i.imgur.com/rcsKUky.jpg

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Dancedreamer
03/02/20 5:01:18 PM
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Don't be silly. Trump won't run for a third term. By then, republicans will have control of the house and senate and they'll just abolish elections and Trump will be President for life without an election.

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/02/20 5:02:24 PM
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KamikazePotato posted...
No, but this is a false equivalence fantasy scenario where Bernie had a nonzero chance of winning a contested convention he isn't the frontrunner in. Bernie would be staying in to exert some policy influence before bowing out and he and everyone else would know this. Biden is going to stay in to literally steal the nomination from someone who got more support, using the establishment as his backing, and fuck that noise.

I mean by saying he'd exert policy influence, Bernie would have to know how to use his leverage as a potential nominee to make deals with the establishment.

I guess what I'm saying is don't just assume Bernie is going to roll over and immediately die to the establishment at a contested convention because his campaign isn't incompetent and the establishment isn't an insurmountable foe. Otherwise he wouldn't be trying.

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LordoftheMorons
03/02/20 5:03:01 PM
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New 538 numbers:

No Majority 69
Bernie 17
Biden 14

Plurality:
Sanders 54
Biden 45
Bloomberg 2 (guess they rounded weirdly).

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KamikazePotato
03/02/20 5:03:53 PM
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RaidenGarai posted...
Out of curiosity, what were your thoughts in 2016 when Bernie was trying to convince the superdelegates for the nomination even though Clinton had a delegate lead?
Insert post #372

Also I had no issues with voting for Hillary

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Lightning Strikes
03/02/20 5:05:12 PM
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JK Rowling is 100% a Blairite, but by American standards thatd be far left!

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RaidenGarai
03/02/20 5:05:56 PM
#393:


KamikazePotato posted...
Insert post #372

Also I had no issues with voting for Hillary
Thanks, was just wondering

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Wanglicious
03/02/20 5:06:00 PM
#394:


nah, that ain't it.
it's the leftists on twitter who always connect shit back to harry potter.

there was a good phase of that a few years ago where it would be a constant stream of it so that's the meme.


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Nelson_Mandela
03/02/20 5:06:07 PM
#395:


KamikazePotato posted...


Oh sure they'll get right on that
Why wouldn't they? They'd make billions of dollars

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/02/20 5:06:13 PM
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Lightning Strikes posted...
JK Rowling is 100% a Blairite, but by American standards thatd be far left!

yeah but she's a TERF so she has common ground with social conservatives

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KamikazePotato
03/02/20 5:08:14 PM
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RaidenGarai posted...
Thanks, was just wondering
Oops, actually meant to say insert post 358

372 works too though

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KamikazePotato
03/02/20 5:10:19 PM
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
I guess what I'm saying is don't just assume Bernie is going to roll over and immediately die to the establishment at a contested convention because his campaign isn't incompetent and the establishment isn't an insurmountable foe. Otherwise he wouldn't be trying.
Honestly speaking, I'd rather just prepare myself for the worst case scenario - which, based on the last week, seems like the most likely scenario. The oligarchy has, and will always, protect its interests. If I'm proven wrong then I'll be happy that I was!

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pxlated
03/02/20 5:11:49 PM
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RaidenGarai posted...
Out of curiosity, what were your thoughts in 2016 when Bernie was trying to convince the superdelegates for the nomination even though Clinton had a delegate lead?


bernie's position in 2016 wasn't "hey all superdelegates you should come to me instead!" it was "the superdelegates from the states I won should go to me, and the superdelegates from the states clinton won should go to her, instead of the overwhelming majority of them having pledged to clinton regardless of the will of the states they were elected from"

but sure let's just keep throwing this BS talking point around!

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Jakyl25
03/02/20 5:12:13 PM
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

Why wouldn't they? They'd make billions of dollars


I think the joke is that they might not be doing their best already until Trump asked them
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pxlated
03/02/20 5:13:46 PM
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i will say, the superdelegate makeup this time around isn't nearly as stacked towards establishment candidates as it was in 2016. it's not a foregone conclusion that bernie gets shafted by them. it's certainly possible but not a guarantee.

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