Poll of the Day > Any Canadian's here actually like Justin Trudeau?

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xjayguyx 02/23/20 8:50:45 PM #1:	I just want to see if any Canadian's here support him, and if so why? What has he done good? <cite>xjayguyx posted [p:934788245] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>I just want to see if any Canadian's here support him, and if so why? What has he done good? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
faramir77 02/23/20 9:19:22 PM #2:	I don't mind him. He's better than Harper and Martin by leagues. He hasn't done anything groundbreaking aside from marijuana legalization, but I also can't really say what kind of groundbreaking things I'd want the government to do, to be honest. Any negatives I can think about him are extremely minor. The guaranteed 50-50 gender balanced cabinet is idiotic because it implies some of the cabinet ministers were picked not because they were the best for the job, but because they had a certain kind of genitals. This is hardly worth complaining about given that most cabinet positions seem to be little more than pointless busywork. I also dislike his cringy PR antics. The India trip ranks as the most embarrassing thing he's ever done. It seems that since the recent election, he's worked on rebranding himself. Hopefully he stays this way. --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiCtAUrZbUk -- Defeating the Running Man of Ocarina of Time in a race since 01/17/2009. -- <cite>faramir77 posted [p:934789386] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>I don't mind him. He's better than Harper and Martin by leagues. He hasn't done anything groundbreaking aside from marijuana legalization, but I also can't really say what kind of groundbreaking things I'd want the government to do, to be honest. Any negatives I can think about him are extremely minor. The guaranteed 50-50 gender balanced cabinet is idiotic because it implies some of the cabinet ministers were picked not because they were the best for the job, but because they had a certain kind of genitals. This is hardly worth complaining about given that most cabinet positions seem to be little more than pointless busywork. I also dislike his cringy PR antics. The India trip ranks as the most embarrassing thing he's ever done. It seems that since the recent election, he's worked on rebranding himself. Hopefully he stays this way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 02/23/20 9:22:17 PM #3:	Doesnt he want to squeeze all Canadians to get any oil that might be in their system or something --- Lemonheads <cite>Mead posted [p:934789518] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>Doesnt he want to squeeze all Canadians to get any oil that might be in their system or something </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 02/23/20 9:24:11 PM #4:	faramir77 posted... I don't mind him. He's better than Harper and Martin by leagues. Basically this. Trudeau's been decent. I was disappointed by his failure to follow through on his election promise to revamp the electoral system, and also by the way he rolled over instead of fighting some fights he should have fought (the current pipeline protests and Bill 21 in Quebec mostly), but on the whole he's been solid. Steven Harper was bitterly partisan and something of a control freak, two trends which I'm pleased that Trudeau has dialed back. He's not someone who has completely changed the way Canada does business, but that's not really a bad thing. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:934789582] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>faramir77 posted... </cite> <quote>I don't mind him. He's better than Harper and Martin by leagues.</quote>Basically this. Trudeau's been decent. I was disappointed by his failure to follow through on his election promise to revamp the electoral system, and also by the way he rolled over instead of fighting some fights he should have fought (the current pipeline protests and Bill 21 in Quebec mostly), but on the whole he's been solid. Steven Harper was bitterly partisan and something of a control freak, two trends which I'm pleased that Trudeau has dialed back. He's not someone who has completely changed the way Canada does business, but that's not really a bad thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blighboy 02/23/20 9:25:43 PM #5:	The number of people who actually like Trudeau has taken a nosedive off a cliff in the last year or two, due to a few notable scandals (the most famous being blackface, but that's probably one of the lesser ones) and his general lack of leadership in the face of actual crisis. The thing is, most of the other leaders are shit as well. I voted NDP last election but I wouldn't really say I like Jagmeet Singh. And Andrew Scheer is an actual trashfire. Trudeau is at least blandly competent and his one goal in life is to be inoffensive, so it's much preferable to having, say, Doug Ford as PM. --- I have no idea whether or not he's a racist, but apparently there are recordings of him using racial slurs so it's a distinct possibility. <cite>Blighboy posted [p:934789652] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>The number of people who actually like Trudeau has taken a nosedive off a cliff in the last year or two, due to a few notable scandals (the most famous being blackface, but that's probably one of the lesser ones) and his general lack of leadership in the face of actual crisis. The thing is, most of the other leaders are shit as well. I voted NDP last election but I wouldn't really say I like Jagmeet Singh. And Andrew Scheer is an actual trashfire. Trudeau is at least blandly competent and his one goal in life is to be inoffensive, so it's much preferable to having, say, Doug Ford as PM. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheWitchMorgana 02/23/20 9:35:30 PM #6:	i would much rather have an NDP government, but as the party currently is, it's just not realistic. i voted liberal last time to ensure the conservatives stay out (they did in my riding, but it was a little closer than i'd like) edit: actually a lot closer; the liberal candidate won by only about 300 votes, lol --- and love comes back around again, it's a carousel, my friend <cite>TheWitchMorgana posted [p:934790044] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>i would much rather have an NDP government, but as the party currently is, it's just not realistic. i voted liberal last time to ensure the conservatives stay out (they did in my riding, but it was a little closer than i'd like) edit: actually a lot closer; the liberal candidate won by only about 300 votes, lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xjayguyx 02/23/20 11:30:05 PM #7:	Interesting. What are your thoughts on the PPC? <cite>xjayguyx posted [p:934793899] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>Interesting. What are your thoughts on the PPC? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xjayguyx 02/23/20 11:34:46 PM #8:	Also what are your thoughts on the media being bought out by the Liberals? And his crack down on rebel media news? And that the Liberals want to further control the media by having to approve it first? And the guy in charge of that is a convicted activist extremist? Kinda scary imo, feels like communism to me, no? <cite>xjayguyx posted [p:934794033] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>Also what are your thoughts on the media being bought out by the Liberals? And his crack down on rebel media news? And that the Liberals want to further control the media by having to approve it first? And the guy in charge of that is a convicted activist extremist? Kinda scary imo, feels like communism to me, no? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dynalo 02/23/20 11:34:52 PM #9:	Blighboy posted... The thing is, most of the other leaders are shit as well. That was my general thought during the last election. Just looked at the leaders and thought "man. I don't want any of you in charge." I feel like Trudeau is a pretty poor face of Canada. Too many weird scandals, and his dealings with other countries never seem to go well. He's done a few other things that have bothered me, but I can honestly say I don't think I'd have been any happier if someone else was in charge. --- Assassins do it from behind. <cite>Dynalo posted [p:934794036] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>Blighboy posted... </cite> <quote>The thing is, most of the other leaders are shit as well.</quote> That was my general thought during the last election. Just looked at the leaders and thought "man. I don't want any of you in charge." I feel like Trudeau is a pretty poor face of Canada. Too many weird scandals, and his dealings with other countries never seem to go well. He's done a few other things that have bothered me, but I can honestly say I don't think I'd have been any happier if someone else was in charge. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dynalo 02/23/20 11:40:10 PM #10:	darkknight109 posted... I was disappointed by his failure to follow through on his election promise to revamp the electoral system He came to a quick realization that that would literally never happen. At least not without significantly more public outcry for it. First past the post favours conservatives a lot. They will never vote to approve anything different. Ranked ballot would ensure the Liberals basically never lose an election again, and would be what they would push for. Every other party would want proportional, but that would cut down on the seats both the Liberals and Conservatives would get, so that would be shot down by both. So basically he would only want to push for Ranked Ballot, because every other option is worse for the liberal party, and ranked ballot would be torn to shreds by every other party. Blighboy posted... so it's much preferable to having, say, Doug Ford as PM It's still amazing to me that this happened. I mean, Wynne was outright hated there, so I get how it happened. But oh boy. Ford? You couldn't do any better than that? Really? It's like watching a bad soap opera. --- Assassins do it from behind. <cite>Dynalo posted [p:934794193] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>darkknight109 posted... </cite> <quote>I was disappointed by his failure to follow through on his election promise to revamp the electoral system</quote> He came to a quick realization that that would literally never happen. At least not without significantly more public outcry for it. First past the post favours conservatives a lot. They will never vote to approve anything different. Ranked ballot would ensure the Liberals basically never lose an election again, and would be what they would push for. Every other party would want proportional, but that would cut down on the seats both the Liberals and Conservatives would get, so that would be shot down by both. So basically he would only want to push for Ranked Ballot, because every other option is worse for the liberal party, and ranked ballot would be torn to shreds by every other party. Blighboy posted... </cite> <quote>so it's much preferable to having, say, Doug Ford as PM</quote> It's still amazing to me that this happened. I mean, Wynne was outright hated there, so I get how it happened. But oh boy. Ford? You couldn't do any better than that? Really? It's like watching a bad soap opera. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 02/24/20 1:10:52 AM #11:	darkknight109 posted... Basically this. Trudeau's been decent. I was disappointed by his failure to follow through on his election promise to revamp the electoral system, and also by the way he rolled over instead of fighting some fights he should have fought (the current pipeline protests and Bill 21 in Quebec mostly), but on the whole he's been solid. Steven Harper was bitterly partisan and something of a control freak, two trends which I'm pleased that Trudeau has dialed back. He's not someone who has completely changed the way Canada does business, but that's not really a bad thing. Sounds about right. He's generally doing an okay job, with lots of room for improvement (mostly in his unwillingness to actually commit to making serious change, such as sitting so squarely on the fence with this whole pipeline thing), but he could be a whole lot worse. xjayguyx posted... What are your thoughts on the PPC? PPC is a party based entirely on populist sloganeering and thinly-veiled racism, neither of which I want any part of in my Canada. They never had anything of value to contribute, and I'm glad their election performance reflected that. Dynalo posted... It's still amazing to me that this happened. I mean, Wynne was outright hated there, so I get how it happened. But oh boy. Ford? You couldn't do any better than that? Really? It's like watching a bad soap opera. Actually living in Ontario, it's absolutely repulsive how much of a dumpster fire the Ford government has been. Cuts everywhere to essential services, pushing for programs that are just plain weird and make no sense (e.g. changing the license plate slogan and rolling out these new plates that are completely dysfunctional because apparently quality control is an unnecessary expense), yet all the while hemorrhaging money and spending more than previous governments because of how much it costs to try and keep a lid on how terribly his initiatives are failing. It's a mess and 2022 can't come quickly enough. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:934796549] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>darkknight109 posted... </cite> <quote>Basically this. Trudeau's been decent. I was disappointed by his failure to follow through on his election promise to revamp the electoral system, and also by the way he rolled over instead of fighting some fights he should have fought (the current pipeline protests and Bill 21 in Quebec mostly), but on the whole he's been solid. Steven Harper was bitterly partisan and something of a control freak, two trends which I'm pleased that Trudeau has dialed back. He's not someone who has completely changed the way Canada does business, but that's not really a bad thing.</quote> Sounds about right. He's generally doing an okay job, with lots of room for improvement (mostly in his unwillingness to actually commit to making serious change, such as sitting so squarely on the fence with this whole pipeline thing), but he could be a whole lot worse. xjayguyx posted... </cite> <quote>What are your thoughts on the PPC?</quote> PPC is a party based entirely on populist sloganeering and thinly-veiled racism, neither of which I want any part of in my Canada. They never had anything of value to contribute, and I'm glad their election performance reflected that. Dynalo posted... </cite> <quote>It's still amazing to me that this happened. I mean, Wynne was outright hated there, so I get how it happened. But oh boy. Ford? You couldn't do any better than that? Really? It's like watching a bad soap opera.</quote> Actually living in Ontario, it's absolutely repulsive how much of a dumpster fire the Ford government has been. Cuts everywhere to essential services, pushing for programs that are just plain weird and make no sense (e.g. changing the license plate slogan and rolling out these new plates that are completely dysfunctional because apparently quality control is an unnecessary expense), yet all the while hemorrhaging money and spending more than previous governments because of how much it costs to try and keep a lid on how terribly his initiatives are failing. It's a mess and 2022 can't come quickly enough. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
faramir77 02/24/20 1:29:23 AM #12:	xjayguyx posted... Interesting. What are your thoughts on the PPC? I'm embarrassed that that even happened. Nearly their entire platform was based around populist fake news that promoted racism and anti-intellectualism. Not really a surprise given that their leader is a man that accidentally left confidential government documents at the home of his Hells Angels girlfriend. --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiCtAUrZbUk -- Defeating the Running Man of Ocarina of Time in a race since 01/17/2009. -- <cite>faramir77 posted [p:934796915] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>xjayguyx posted... </cite> <quote>Interesting. What are your thoughts on the PPC?</quote> I'm embarrassed that that even happened. Nearly their entire platform was based around populist fake news that promoted racism and anti-intellectualism. Not really a surprise given that their leader is a man that accidentally left confidential government documents at the home of his Hells Angels girlfriend. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 02/24/20 12:19:18 PM #13:	xjayguyx posted... Interesting. What are your thoughts on the PPC? Racist xenophobes who got the electoral results they deserved. xjayguyx posted... Also what are your thoughts on the media being bought out by the Liberals? A neat story, but not something that has any grounding in reality. xjayguyx posted... And his crack down on rebel media news? Calling Rebel Media "news" is a pretty big disservice to the word "news". It's basically Breitbart: Canada Edition. xjayguyx posted... And that the Liberals want to further control the media by having to approve it first? This is not a thing that is happening. xjayguyx posted... Kinda scary imo, feels like communism to me, no? Then you may want to crack a history book and learn what actual communism was. Dynalo posted... He came to a quick realization that that would literally never happen. At least not without significantly more public outcry for it. I get that, but he could have been the one to press the issue. Our current electoral system is stupid. Whoever gets a majority in parliament has, effectively, 100% of the political power given that the last 80 years has seen parliament neuter its own systems of checks and balances that used to keep Prime Ministers somewhat more responsive to (and less in charge of) their backbench. It was ridiculous when Steven Harper got a majority with just 39% of the country voting for him, it was equally ridiculous when Trudeau did the same thing 4 years later, and there's no reason to think that system will ever change unless someone with access to the bully pulpit starts making some noise about it and pointing out how stupid it is. Trudeau could have done that, even if it might have been a doomed effort right now, but he just kind of brushed it off a year into his first term and never spoke of it again. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:934810257] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>xjayguyx posted... </cite> <quote>Interesting. What are your thoughts on the PPC?</quote>Racist xenophobes who got the electoral results they deserved. xjayguyx posted... </cite> <quote>Also what are your thoughts on the media being bought out by the Liberals?</quote>A neat story, but not something that has any grounding in reality. xjayguyx posted... </cite> <quote>And his crack down on rebel media news?</quote>Calling Rebel Media "news" is a pretty big disservice to the word "news". It's basically Breitbart: Canada Edition. xjayguyx posted... </cite> <quote>And that the Liberals want to further control the media by having to approve it first?</quote>This is not a thing that is happening. xjayguyx posted... </cite> <quote>Kinda scary imo, feels like communism to me, no?</quote>Then you may want to crack a history book and learn what actual communism was. Dynalo posted... </cite> <quote>He came to a quick realization that that would literally never happen. At least not without significantly more public outcry for it.</quote>I get that, but he could have been the one to press the issue. Our current electoral system is stupid. Whoever gets a majority in parliament has, effectively, 100% of the political power given that the last 80 years has seen parliament neuter its own systems of checks and balances that used to keep Prime Ministers somewhat more responsive to (and less in charge of) their backbench. It was ridiculous when Steven Harper got a majority with just 39% of the country voting for him, it was equally ridiculous when Trudeau did the same thing 4 years later, and there's no reason to think that system will ever change unless someone with access to the bully pulpit starts making some noise about it and pointing out how stupid it is. Trudeau could have done that, even if it might have been a doomed effort right now, but he just kind of brushed it off a year into his first term and never spoke of it again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dynalo 02/24/20 1:03:36 PM #14:	darkknight109 posted... Racist xenophobes who got the electoral results they deserved. Frankly I was hoping they'd do worse than they did. But the results still speak for themselves. darkknight109 posted... It was ridiculous when Steven Harper got a majority with just 39% of the country voting for him, it was equally ridiculous when Trudeau did the same thing 4 years later No system really fixes that without bringing in potentially other issues. Fptp is obviously terrible in terms of percent of votes compared to actual power. Ranked Ballot is the same issue, it just hides it better. There would still be articles proclaiming that x party was only the first choice for 35% of the country. Proportional fixes it by making it so no government is likely to ever have a majority ever again. You could argue that this is a good thing, but it makes it nigh impossible for parties to keep campaign promises, especially if they're divisive. I'm curious, which system would you prefer? Proportional is the most fair system, but I quite dislike the idea of what government is in power not being able to get anything done. Ranked Ballot would fix that issue, but would require a shake up in our parties, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Fptp is just a terrible system in general. Some kind of mix would be nice. I'd also like to see some sort of system in place where the pm is separate from the party leader. Though I don't know how I would want that to look yet. I hate the fact that if you don't like the PM, you're forced to vote for a different party, even if your beliefs are more in line with said party. I do recognize that this may greatly diminish voter interest in the parties themselves as people often only care about whoever the pm is... But I kinda feel like that's all people care about right now anyways. --- Assassins do it from behind. <cite>Dynalo posted [p:934812082] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>darkknight109 posted... </cite> <quote>Racist xenophobes who got the electoral results they deserved.</quote> Frankly I was hoping they'd do worse than they did. But the results still speak for themselves. darkknight109 posted... </cite> <quote>It was ridiculous when Steven Harper got a majority with just 39% of the country voting for him, it was equally ridiculous when Trudeau did the same thing 4 years later</quote> No system really fixes that without bringing in potentially other issues. Fptp is obviously terrible in terms of percent of votes compared to actual power. Ranked Ballot is the same issue, it just hides it better. There would still be articles proclaiming that x party was only the first choice for 35% of the country. Proportional fixes it by making it so no government is likely to ever have a majority ever again. You could argue that this is a good thing, but it makes it nigh impossible for parties to keep campaign promises, especially if they're divisive. I'm curious, which system would you prefer? Proportional is the most fair system, but I quite dislike the idea of what government is in power not being able to get anything done. Ranked Ballot would fix that issue, but would require a shake up in our parties, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Fptp is just a terrible system in general. Some kind of mix would be nice. I'd also like to see some sort of system in place where the pm is separate from the party leader. Though I don't know how I would want that to look yet. I hate the fact that if you don't like the PM, you're forced to vote for a different party, even if your beliefs are more in line with said party. I do recognize that this may greatly diminish voter interest in the parties themselves as people often only care about whoever the pm is... But I kinda feel like that's all people care about right now anyways. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 02/24/20 1:14:04 PM #15:	Dynalo posted... Ranked Ballot is the same issue, it just hides it better. There would still be articles proclaiming that x party was only the first choice for 35% of the country. It's still an improvement in that it fixes one of the major issues of FPTP - the spoiler effect. Numerous times in previous elections I've had to vote for a candidate that wasn't my first choice because they had the best chance of beating a candidate that I absolutely didn't want to win. That's not how democracy is supposed to work. In a Ranked Ballot system I'm free to cast my vote for whoever I want, knowing that it will not be wasted no matter which candidate I pick. Dynalo posted... Proportional fixes it by making it so no government is likely to ever have a majority ever again. You could argue that this is a good thing, but it makes it nigh impossible for parties to keep campaign promises, especially if they're divisive. I don't see the issue there. Divisive campaign promises shouldn't be kept. If you want to do something "divisive", you better be able to convince a clear majority of the country that it's in their best interests. On that note... Dynalo posted... I'm curious, which system would you prefer? Proportional for sure. It forces political parties to work together and compromise, two elements that are in short supply in modern politics. I dislike the idea of a single party or politician being able to basically act like an elected dictator for four years. No party having a majority in a proportional system, unless they are wildly popular, is, to my eye, a feature, not a bug. Proportional systems work fine. They've been put into practice in countries around the world and those countries haven't gotten mired in political gridlock. All it means is you'll have to adjust to the fact that if you're the dominant party that doesn't mean you get to do everything you want. Hell, we already have a system that works like that in minority governments. They're unstable (because under FPTP a few points movement in the polls can translate to massive shifts in seats, which would not be the case in a proportional system), but other than that they work fine. Dynalo posted... I'd also like to see some sort of system in place where the pm is separate from the party leader. Well, as I referenced, up until the 1930s/40s, the PM and his cabinet actually had a lot less power than they do today. There was a very distinct line between the legislative and executive branches which has now all but disappeared. I would like to see that return, but that's something of a longshot. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:934812524] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>Dynalo posted... </cite> <quote>Ranked Ballot is the same issue, it just hides it better. There would still be articles proclaiming that x party was only the first choice for 35% of the country.</quote>It's still an improvement in that it fixes one of the major issues of FPTP - the spoiler effect. Numerous times in previous elections I've had to vote for a candidate that wasn't my first choice because they had the best chance of beating a candidate that I absolutely didn't want to win. That's not how democracy is supposed to work. In a Ranked Ballot system I'm free to cast my vote for whoever I want, knowing that it will not be wasted no matter which candidate I pick. Dynalo posted... </cite> <quote>Proportional fixes it by making it so no government is likely to ever have a majority ever again. You could argue that this is a good thing, but it makes it nigh impossible for parties to keep campaign promises, especially if they're divisive.</quote>I don't see the issue there. Divisive campaign promises shouldn't be kept. If you want to do something "divisive", you better be able to convince a clear majority of the country that it's in their best interests. On that note... Dynalo posted... </cite> <quote>I'm curious, which system would you prefer?</quote>Proportional for sure. It forces political parties to work together and compromise, two elements that are in short supply in modern politics. I dislike the idea of a single party or politician being able to basically act like an elected dictator for four years. No party having a majority in a proportional system, unless they are wildly popular, is, to my eye, a feature, not a bug. Proportional systems work fine. They've been put into practice in countries around the world and those countries haven't gotten mired in political gridlock. All it means is you'll have to adjust to the fact that if you're the dominant party that doesn't mean you get to do everything you want. Hell, we already have a system that works like that in minority governments. They're unstable (because under FPTP a few points movement in the polls can translate to massive shifts in seats, which would not be the case in a proportional system), but other than that they work fine. Dynalo posted... </cite> <quote>I'd also like to see some sort of system in place where the pm is separate from the party leader.</quote>Well, as I referenced, up until the 1930s/40s, the PM and his cabinet actually had a lot less power than they do today. There was a very distinct line between the legislative and executive branches which has now all but disappeared. I would like to see that return, but that's something of a longshot. </quote> ... 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Dynalo 02/24/20 2:26:21 PM #16:	darkknight109 posted... They've been put into practice in countries around the world and those countries haven't gotten mired in political gridlock. All it means is you'll have to adjust to the fact that if you're the dominant party that doesn't mean you get to do everything you want. What ends up happening though is coalition governments get formed, and the parties involved often just make deals about which policies to enact, making it harder for the voters to actually know what the government is going to do. This isn't really the same as compromising - it's more akin to trading. You scratch my back and I'll scratch yours. I'm not convinced that's any better than what's currently going on. You may vote for one government because they said they wouldn't enact a policy you strongly disagree with, but then they end up forming a coalition, and as part of the formation they agree to pass the exact policy you didn't want. It makes it much more difficult for the average voter to keep track of what the government intends to do, and a lot more difficult to hold government accountable for any of their promises. That said though, I still find it preferable stepping through that landmine compared to the travesty that is fptp. I just don't view it as a strict positive and I think a lot of people would be upset as promises get broken, especially during the initial adjustment period --- Assassins do it from behind. <cite>Dynalo posted [p:934815402] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>darkknight109 posted... </cite> <quote>They've been put into practice in countries around the world and those countries haven't gotten mired in political gridlock. All it means is you'll have to adjust to the fact that if you're the dominant party that doesn't mean you get to do everything you want.</quote> What ends up happening though is coalition governments get formed, and the parties involved often just make deals about which policies to enact, making it harder for the voters to actually know what the government is going to do. This isn't really the same as compromising - it's more akin to trading. You scratch my back and I'll scratch yours. I'm not convinced that's any better than what's currently going on. You may vote for one government because they said they wouldn't enact a policy you strongly disagree with, but then they end up forming a coalition, and as part of the formation they agree to pass the exact policy you didn't want. It makes it much more difficult for the average voter to keep track of what the government intends to do, and a lot more difficult to hold government accountable for any of their promises. That said though, I still find it preferable stepping through that landmine compared to the travesty that is fptp. I just don't view it as a strict positive and I think a lot of people would be upset as promises get broken, especially during the initial adjustment period </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheWitchMorgana 02/24/20 3:50:11 PM #17:	xjayguyx posted... Also what are your thoughts on the media being bought out by the Liberals? And his crack down on rebel media news? And that the Liberals want to further control the media by having to approve it first? And the guy in charge of that is a convicted activist extremist? Kinda scary imo, feels like communism to me, no? ahh, just asking questions, are you? i see i see --- and love comes back around again, it's a carousel, my friend <cite>TheWitchMorgana posted [p:934818900] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>xjayguyx posted... </cite> <quote>Also what are your thoughts on the media being bought out by the Liberals? And his crack down on rebel media news? And that the Liberals want to further control the media by having to approve it first? And the guy in charge of that is a convicted activist extremist? Kinda scary imo, feels like communism to me, no?</quote> ahh, just asking questions, are you? i see i see </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VIN_C3 02/24/20 4:02:26 PM #18:	he's a cuck of a leader and most of the world thinks he's weak <cite>VIN_C3 posted [p:934819456] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>he's a cuck of a leader and most of the world thinks he's weak </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 02/24/20 4:21:44 PM #19:	VIN_C3 posted... he's a cuck of a leader and most of the world thinks he's weak Canada is currently ranked as the country that most people see as having the greatest positive influence in the world: https://notablelife.com/international-poll-canada-has-the-worlds-most-positive-global-influence/ According to a poll of 18,000 people across 25 nations, 81% felt Canada has a positive influence on the world (the US clocks in at 40% on the same poll). It's also ranked the #1 country for quality of life three years running. https://www.ctvnews.ca/lifestyle/canada-ranks-no-1-in-global-quality-of-life-list-1.4265201 Trudeau is apparently doing something right and most of the world agrees. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:934820315] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>VIN_C3 posted... </cite> <quote>he's a cuck of a leader and most of the world thinks he's weak</quote>Canada is currently ranked as the country that most people see as having the greatest positive influence in the world: https://notablelife.com/international-poll-canada-has-the-worlds-most-positive-global-influence/ According to a poll of 18,000 people across 25 nations, 81% felt Canada has a positive influence on the world (the US clocks in at 40% on the same poll). It's also ranked the #1 country for quality of life three years running. https://www.ctvnews.ca/lifestyle/canada-ranks-no-1-in-global-quality-of-life-list-1.4265201 Trudeau is apparently doing something right and most of the world agrees. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VIN_C3 02/24/20 4:27:26 PM #20:	The world has always had a positive impression of canada, tredeau didn't magically make everyone like canada <cite>VIN_C3 posted [p:934820530] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>The world has always had a positive impression of canada, tredeau didn't magically make everyone like canada </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xjayguyx 02/24/20 7:23:06 PM #21:	darkknight109 posted... Canada is currently ranked as the country that most people see as having the greatest positive influence in the world: https://notablelife.com/international-poll-canada-has-the-worlds-most-positive-global-influence/ According to a poll of 18,000 people across 25 nations, 81% felt Canada has a positive influence on the world (the US clocks in at 40% on the same poll). It's also ranked the #1 country for quality of life three years running. https://www.ctvnews.ca/lifestyle/canada-ranks-no-1-in-global-quality-of-life-list-1.4265201 Trudeau is apparently doing something right and most of the world agrees. If Canada is #1 for quality of life.. man I feel so bad for everyone else :( <cite>xjayguyx posted [p:934827769] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>darkknight109 posted... </cite> <quote>Canada is currently ranked as the country that most people see as having the greatest positive influence in the world: https://notablelife.com/international-poll-canada-has-the-worlds-most-positive-global-influence/ According to a poll of 18,000 people across 25 nations, 81% felt Canada has a positive influence on the world (the US clocks in at 40% on the same poll). It's also ranked the #1 country for quality of life three years running. https://www.ctvnews.ca/lifestyle/canada-ranks-no-1-in-global-quality-of-life-list-1.4265201 Trudeau is apparently doing something right and most of the world agrees.</quote> If Canada is #1 for quality of life.. man I feel so bad for everyone else :( </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xjayguyx 02/24/20 7:24:49 PM #22:	darkknight109 posted... Racist xenophobes who got the electoral results they deserved. A neat story, but not something that has any grounding in reality. Calling Rebel Media "news" is a pretty big disservice to the word "news". It's basically Breitbart: Canada Edition. This is not a thing that is happening. Then you may want to crack a history book and learn what actual communism was. I get that, but he could have been the one to press the issue. Our current electoral system is stupid. Whoever gets a majority in parliament has, effectively, 100% of the political power given that the last 80 years has seen parliament neuter its own systems of checks and balances that used to keep Prime Ministers somewhat more responsive to (and less in charge of) their backbench. It was ridiculous when Steven Harper got a majority with just 39% of the country voting for him, it was equally ridiculous when Trudeau did the same thing 4 years later, and there's no reason to think that system will ever change unless someone with access to the bully pulpit starts making some noise about it and pointing out how stupid it is. Trudeau could have done that, even if it might have been a doomed effort right now, but he just kind of brushed it off a year into his first term and never spoke of it again. The Liberals did want to control what media is shown but yes they backed down from that. And what's so wrong with rebel news? It's more real news than what's on TV.. <cite>xjayguyx posted [p:934827829] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>darkknight109 posted... </cite> <quote>Racist xenophobes who got the electoral results they deserved. A neat story, but not something that has any grounding in reality. Calling Rebel Media "news" is a pretty big disservice to the word "news". It's basically Breitbart: Canada Edition. This is not a thing that is happening. Then you may want to crack a history book and learn what actual communism was. I get that, but he could have been the one to press the issue. Our current electoral system is stupid. Whoever gets a majority in parliament has, effectively, 100% of the political power given that the last 80 years has seen parliament neuter its own systems of checks and balances that used to keep Prime Ministers somewhat more responsive to (and less in charge of) their backbench. It was ridiculous when Steven Harper got a majority with just 39% of the country voting for him, it was equally ridiculous when Trudeau did the same thing 4 years later, and there's no reason to think that system will ever change unless someone with access to the bully pulpit starts making some noise about it and pointing out how stupid it is. Trudeau could have done that, even if it might have been a doomed effort right now, but he just kind of brushed it off a year into his first term and never spoke of it again.</quote> The Liberals did want to control what media is shown but yes they backed down from that. And what's so wrong with rebel news? It's more real news than what's on TV.. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheWitchMorgana 02/24/20 7:51:44 PM #23:	xjayguyx posted... The Liberals did want to control what media is shown but yes they backed down from that. And what's so wrong with rebel news? It's more real news than what's on TV.. away with ye --- and love comes back around again, it's a carousel, my friend <cite>TheWitchMorgana posted [p:934828836] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>xjayguyx posted... </cite> <quote>The Liberals did want to control what media is shown but yes they backed down from that. And what's so wrong with rebel news? It's more real news than what's on TV..</quote> away with ye </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 02/24/20 7:55:09 PM #24:	xjayguyx posted... And what's so wrong with rebel news? Other than it being alt-right trash whose reporters participate in podcasts on The Daily Stormer and joined the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville and constantly substitute fanaticism for facts? Nothing at all, I'm sure they're lovely. Put it this way: the Conservative Party of Canada and the United Conservative Party of Alberta have both boycotted Rebel Media. When the Tories think you're too far right for them to associate with you, you know you're way off the deep end. VIN_C3 posted... The world has always had a positive impression of canada, tredeau didn't magically make everyone like canada But you claimed everyone thought he was a weak cuck. Clearly that's not the case if that poll's anything to go by. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:934828979] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>xjayguyx posted... </cite> <quote>And what's so wrong with rebel news?</quote>Other than it being alt-right trash whose reporters participate in podcasts on The Daily Stormer and joined the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville and constantly substitute fanaticism for facts? Nothing at all, I'm sure they're lovely. Put it this way: the Conservative Party of Canada and the United Conservative Party of Alberta have both boycotted Rebel Media. When the Tories think you're too far right for them to associate with you, you know you're way off the deep end. VIN_C3 posted... </cite> <quote>The world has always had a positive impression of canada, tredeau didn't magically make everyone like canada</quote>But you claimed everyone thought he was a weak cuck. Clearly that's not the case if that poll's anything to go by. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheWitchMorgana 02/24/20 7:58:01 PM #25:	imagine still stanning the PPC when even your boy bernier lost his seat by a not-small margin lmao we already chose to make you irrelevant and that is how you will stay --- and love comes back around again, it's a carousel, my friend <cite>TheWitchMorgana posted [p:934829103] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>imagine still stanning the PPC when even your boy bernier lost his seat by a not-small margin lmao we already chose to make you irrelevant and that is how you will stay </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 02/24/20 8:04:54 PM #26:	Ya, RebelMedia is pretty garbage... basically the Canadian equivalent of DailyStormer --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:934829380] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>Ya, RebelMedia is pretty garbage... basically the Canadian equivalent of DailyStormer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xjayguyx 02/24/20 10:30:00 PM #27:	Lokarin posted... Ya, RebelMedia is pretty garbage... basically the Canadian equivalent of DailyStormer I watched some of their stuff and they show facts very often? The mainstream news however does not. I'm not standing up for any body that's FAR left or right but I don't see rebel media as bad as you guys proclaim. The only issue I see with them as they can be rude and very pushy at times. The guy that runs the rebel news made a anti Liberal book at the time of the election and the Liberals took them to court over it. The Libs lost and wasted a bunch of Canadian tax payer money over it.. and other pro Liberal books came out the same time and they never went after any of those books. Seems kinda fishy to me. <cite>xjayguyx posted [p:934835508] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>Lokarin posted... </cite> <quote>Ya, RebelMedia is pretty garbage... basically the Canadian equivalent of DailyStormer</quote> I watched some of their stuff and they show facts very often? The mainstream news however does not. I'm not standing up for any body that's FAR left or right but I don't see rebel media as bad as you guys proclaim. The only issue I see with them as they can be rude and very pushy at times. The guy that runs the rebel news made a anti Liberal book at the time of the election and the Liberals took them to court over it. The Libs lost and wasted a bunch of Canadian tax payer money over it.. and other pro Liberal books came out the same time and they never went after any of those books. Seems kinda fishy to me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xjayguyx 02/24/20 10:34:04 PM #28:	Also why did it take so long for Justin to go after those illegal "protestors"? He ended up going after them in the end but only after large push back to do so. He also banned the Conservatives from that meeting even though he ended up doing what the Cons wanted to be done. He didn't get the majority vote on Andrew S. And would even do worse today.. majority of Canada is done with the Libs from what I can tell. I'm in the west so obviously I see more anti Libs than the east lol. <cite>xjayguyx posted [p:934835679] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>Also why did it take so long for Justin to go after those illegal "protestors"? He ended up going after them in the end but only after large push back to do so. He also banned the Conservatives from that meeting even though he ended up doing what the Cons wanted to be done. He didn't get the majority vote on Andrew S. And would even do worse today.. majority of Canada is done with the Libs from what I can tell. I'm in the west so obviously I see more anti Libs than the east lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xjayguyx 02/24/20 10:34:47 PM #29:	TheWitchMorgana posted... away with ye What that's not true? You want mass censorship? <cite>xjayguyx posted [p:934835711] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>TheWitchMorgana posted... </cite> <quote>away with ye</quote> What that's not true? You want mass censorship? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zebatov 02/24/20 10:41:31 PM #30:	xjayguyx posted... Interesting. What are your thoughts on the PPC? I voted for them in my riding because their platform is the best for my Canada. --- C was right. <cite>zebatov posted [p:934835992] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>xjayguyx posted... </cite> <quote>Interesting. What are your thoughts on the PPC?</quote>I voted for them in my riding because their platform is the best for my Canada. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xjayguyx 02/24/20 10:44:00 PM #31:	zebatov posted... I voted for them in my riding because their platform is the best for my Canada. I didn't vote PPC because I wanted the best chance to get the Liberals out, so I went with Cons for that reason alone. However I don't see the PPC as racist like others have said here.. I actually watched and listened to what that party wants and stands for and I don't see racism there... I see a party that want to put Canada first mostly. Then again everything is racist today or offensive so I can see why some people think the PPC is a racist party. I told a J walking Indian lady that I almost hit with my car that this is Canada you can't just walk where ever you want.. boy oh boy did she ever scream racist at me over and over.. me and my friends were like wtf to the max. <cite>xjayguyx posted [p:934836112] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>zebatov posted... </cite> <quote>I voted for them in my riding because their platform is the best for my Canada.</quote> I didn't vote PPC because I wanted the best chance to get the Liberals out, so I went with Cons for that reason alone. However I don't see the PPC as racist like others have said here.. I actually watched and listened to what that party wants and stands for and I don't see racism there... I see a party that want to put Canada first mostly. Then again everything is racist today or offensive so I can see why some people think the PPC is a racist party. I told a J walking Indian lady that I almost hit with my car that this is Canada you can't just walk where ever you want.. boy oh boy did she ever scream racist at me over and over.. me and my friends were like wtf to the max. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zebatov 02/24/20 10:50:33 PM #32:	xjayguyx posted... I didn't vote PPC because I wanted the best chance to get the Liberals out, so I went with Cons for that reason alone. However I don't see the PPC as racist like others have said here.. I actually watched and listened to what that party wants and stands for and I don't see racism there... I see a party that want to put Canada first mostly. Yeah their platform wasnt racist at all and only opposing extremists would say that they were. If you actually read their platform youd see that nothing there is racist to any normal human being. Its sad that we cant vote for who we want because we have to vote just to get the guy we dont want out. I wasnt going to be a part of that because I didnt believe Scheer was going to do a better job than Trudeau. NDP certainly wasnt an option due to their history so there wasnt a lot of great choice. Usually I dont vote in these instances but I felt compelled this election. Itll probably be my last time because with the damage Trudeau has done to our NRs theres no point in staying. I can get the same work in countries that arent falling for the man-made climate change garboni. Not to mention Trudeau isnt even against oil. Hes just against our oil interfering with his relationship with Saudi Arabia. Off-topic but in response to your edit - I had the exact same thing happen to me but in my case I didnt mention anything about where we were. She was just on her phone and stepped out into the street outside of any crosswalk while I was making a left turn at a four-way stop. --- C was right. <cite>zebatov posted [p:934836356] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>xjayguyx posted... </cite> <quote>I didn't vote PPC because I wanted the best chance to get the Liberals out, so I went with Cons for that reason alone. However I don't see the PPC as racist like others have said here.. I actually watched and listened to what that party wants and stands for and I don't see racism there... I see a party that want to put Canada first mostly.</quote>Yeah their platform wasnt racist at all and only opposing extremists would say that they were. If you actually read their platform youd see that nothing there is racist to any normal human being. Its sad that we cant vote for who we want because we have to vote just to get the guy we dont want out. I wasnt going to be a part of that because I didnt believe Scheer was going to do a better job than Trudeau. NDP certainly wasnt an option due to their history so there wasnt a lot of great choice. Usually I dont vote in these instances but I felt compelled this election. Itll probably be my last time because with the damage Trudeau has done to our NRs theres no point in staying. I can get the same work in countries that arent falling for the man-made climate change garboni. Not to mention Trudeau isnt even against oil. Hes just against our oil interfering with his relationship with Saudi Arabia. Off-topic but in response to your edit - I had the exact same thing happen to me but in my case I didnt mention anything about where we were. She was just on her phone and stepped out into the street outside of any crosswalk while I was making a left turn at a four-way stop. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xjayguyx 02/24/20 10:55:17 PM #33:	zebatov posted... Yeah their platform wasnt racist at all and only opposing extremists would say that they were. If you actually read their platform youd see that nothing there is racist to any normal human being. Its sad that we cant vote for who we want because we have to vote just to get the guy we dont want out. I wasnt going to be a part of that because I didnt believe Scheer was going to do a better job than Trudeau. NDP certainly wasnt an option due to their history so there wasnt a lot of great choice. Usually I dont vote in these instances but I felt compelled this election. Itll probably be my last time because with the damage Trudeau has done to our NRs theres no point in staying. I can get the same work in countries that arent falling for the man-made climate change garboni. Off-topic but in response to your edit - I had the exact same thing happen to me but in my case I didnt mention anything about where we were. She was just on her phone and stepped out into the street outside of any crosswalk while I was making a left turn at a four-way stop. :( If Canada doesn't get it's crap together soon were in for a mega recession due to the Libs disgusting spending.. when my son is done school we might pack up as well. <cite>xjayguyx posted [p:934836524] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>zebatov posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah their platform wasnt racist at all and only opposing extremists would say that they were. If you actually read their platform youd see that nothing there is racist to any normal human being. Its sad that we cant vote for who we want because we have to vote just to get the guy we dont want out. I wasnt going to be a part of that because I didnt believe Scheer was going to do a better job than Trudeau. NDP certainly wasnt an option due to their history so there wasnt a lot of great choice. Usually I dont vote in these instances but I felt compelled this election. Itll probably be my last time because with the damage Trudeau has done to our NRs theres no point in staying. I can get the same work in countries that arent falling for the man-made climate change garboni. Off-topic but in response to your edit - I had the exact same thing happen to me but in my case I didnt mention anything about where we were. She was just on her phone and stepped out into the street outside of any crosswalk while I was making a left turn at a four-way stop.</quote> :( If Canada doesn't get it's crap together soon were in for a mega recession due to the Libs disgusting spending.. when my son is done school we might pack up as well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheWitchMorgana 02/24/20 11:11:32 PM #34:	you should --- and love comes back around again, it's a carousel, my friend <cite>TheWitchMorgana posted [p:934837126] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>you should </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xjayguyx 02/24/20 11:17:28 PM #35:	TheWitchMorgana posted... you should Nah I'll stay to fight you leftists extremist <cite>xjayguyx posted [p:934837351] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>TheWitchMorgana posted... </cite> <quote>you should</quote> Nah I'll stay to fight you leftists extremist </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zebatov 02/24/20 11:24:31 PM #36:	xjayguyx posted... :( If Canada doesn't get it's crap together soon were in for a mega recession due to the Libs disgusting spending.. when my son is done school we might pack up as well. I wouldnt even care if they spent too much, as long as it gets spent in Canada first. That was part of PPCs platform as well, actually. Foreign Aid would be cut unless it was a serious emergency like Australias fires. I cant have a PM telling my friends in Fort Mac that they have to rely on Red Cross because there wont be any more help coming from Canada. Thats garbage. $2B to Mumbai for a low-income housing project when clearly we need more here is absolutely doable, however. I was personally affected by his refugees as well. I got sent back two-hundred places on a waiting list in Calgary because they moved them all in. So nobody after reading this post should be wondering why I feel the way I do. I felt totally different before my experiences out there. I was living in Calgary fine before 2015. --- C was right. <cite>zebatov posted [p:934837609] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>xjayguyx posted... </cite> <quote>:( If Canada doesn't get it's crap together soon were in for a mega recession due to the Libs disgusting spending.. when my son is done school we might pack up as well.</quote>I wouldnt even care if they spent too much, as long as it gets spent in Canada first. That was part of PPCs platform as well, actually. Foreign Aid would be cut unless it was a serious emergency like Australias fires. I cant have a PM telling my friends in Fort Mac that they have to rely on Red Cross because there wont be any more help coming from Canada. Thats garbage. $2B to Mumbai for a low-income housing project when clearly we need more here is absolutely doable, however. I was personally affected by his refugees as well. I got sent back two-hundred places on a waiting list in Calgary because they moved them all in. So nobody after reading this post should be wondering why I feel the way I do. I felt totally different before my experiences out there. I was living in Calgary fine before 2015. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xjayguyx 02/24/20 11:31:50 PM #37:	zebatov posted... I wouldnt even care if they spent too much, as long as it gets spent in Canada first. That was part of PPCs platform as well, actually. Foreign Aid would be cut unless it was a serious emergency like Australias fires. I cant have a PM telling my friends in Fort Mac that they have to rely on Red Cross because there wont be any more help coming from Canada. Thats garbage. $2B to Mumbai for a low-income housing project when clearly we need more here is absolutely doable, however. I was personally affected by his refugees as well. I got sent back two-hundred places on a waiting list in Calgary because they moved them all in. So nobody after reading this post should be wondering why I feel the way I do. I felt totally different before my experiences out there. I was living in Calgary fine before 2015. Totally understand you brother. <cite>xjayguyx posted [p:934837865] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>zebatov posted... </cite> <quote>I wouldnt even care if they spent too much, as long as it gets spent in Canada first. That was part of PPCs platform as well, actually. Foreign Aid would be cut unless it was a serious emergency like Australias fires. I cant have a PM telling my friends in Fort Mac that they have to rely on Red Cross because there wont be any more help coming from Canada. Thats garbage. $2B to Mumbai for a low-income housing project when clearly we need more here is absolutely doable, however. I was personally affected by his refugees as well. I got sent back two-hundred places on a waiting list in Calgary because they moved them all in. So nobody after reading this post should be wondering why I feel the way I do. I felt totally different before my experiences out there. I was living in Calgary fine before 2015.</quote> Totally understand you brother. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xjayguyx 02/24/20 11:32:53 PM #38:	zebatov posted... I wouldnt even care if they spent too much, as long as it gets spent in Canada first. That was part of PPCs platform as well, actually. Foreign Aid would be cut unless it was a serious emergency like Australias fires. I cant have a PM telling my friends in Fort Mac that they have to rely on Red Cross because there wont be any more help coming from Canada. Thats garbage. $2B to Mumbai for a low-income housing project when clearly we need more here is absolutely doable, however. I was personally affected by his refugees as well. I got sent back two-hundred places on a waiting list in Calgary because they moved them all in. So nobody after reading this post should be wondering why I feel the way I do. I felt totally different before my experiences out there. I was living in Calgary fine before 2015. Like how Justin was giving money to some African country to help with their oil and mining.. and then he is against it in Canada.. like hypocrite much? <cite>xjayguyx posted [p:934837904] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>zebatov posted... </cite> <quote>I wouldnt even care if they spent too much, as long as it gets spent in Canada first. That was part of PPCs platform as well, actually. Foreign Aid would be cut unless it was a serious emergency like Australias fires. I cant have a PM telling my friends in Fort Mac that they have to rely on Red Cross because there wont be any more help coming from Canada. Thats garbage. $2B to Mumbai for a low-income housing project when clearly we need more here is absolutely doable, however. I was personally affected by his refugees as well. I got sent back two-hundred places on a waiting list in Calgary because they moved them all in. So nobody after reading this post should be wondering why I feel the way I do. I felt totally different before my experiences out there. I was living in Calgary fine before 2015.</quote> Like how Justin was giving money to some African country to help with their oil and mining.. and then he is against it in Canada.. like hypocrite much? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zebatov 02/24/20 11:37:14 PM #39:	xjayguyx posted... Like how Justin was giving money to some African country to help with their oil and mining.. and then he is against it in Canada.. like hypocrite much? Hes only against oil going east because of his dealings with Saudi Arabia. And as for the African oil industry hes probably got stake in it too. Hes not against the TMX but he hasnt really fought hard for it, either. And yeah, bitumen is shitty. Ive been covered in it and invert and all sorts of bad stuffs but that expansion is merely that - an expansion to an existing pipeline with a great safety record. I dont even know what they use it for tbh. Its basically silt from the oil holding tanks afaik. When I did vessel entry thats what I used to clean up. --- C was right. <cite>zebatov posted [p:934838063] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>xjayguyx posted... </cite> <quote>Like how Justin was giving money to some African country to help with their oil and mining.. and then he is against it in Canada.. like hypocrite much?</quote>Hes only against oil going east because of his dealings with Saudi Arabia. And as for the African oil industry hes probably got stake in it too. Hes not against the TMX but he hasnt really fought hard for it, either. And yeah, bitumen is shitty. Ive been covered in it and invert and all sorts of bad stuffs but that expansion is merely that - an expansion to an existing pipeline with a great safety record. I dont even know what they use it for tbh. Its basically silt from the oil holding tanks afaik. When I did vessel entry thats what I used to clean up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 02/25/20 12:01:19 AM #40:	xjayguyx posted... I watched some of their stuff and they show facts very often? The mainstream news however does not Neither of these statements are true. The mainstream news presents facts that you don't want to hear, so you're calling them lies and hoping no one notices. Rebel media posts falsehoods you agree with, so you're calling them facts, even though they're just far-right fan-fiction. xjayguyx posted... I'm not standing up for any body that's FAR left or right but I don't see rebel media as bad as you guys proclaim. Dude, they literally had people on The Daily Stormer's podcast. They actually had a reporter participating in (not covering - participating in) the Charlottesville neo-nazi rally. Short of calling themselves "The Brownshirts", I'm not really sure how much more overt they can be. Again, even the Conservatives won't touch these guys. That's how far right they are. xjayguyx posted... The guy that runs the rebel news made a anti Liberal book at the time of the election and the Liberals took them to court over it. The Libs lost and wasted a bunch of Canadian tax payer money over it. This is a gross misrepresentation of the facts, which is pretty much what I'd expect if you're getting your news from Rebel. First off, Levant wasn't taken to court by the Liberals, he was summoned by the Elections Commissioner, which is not a judicial process. And it wasn't because of the book, it was because of the billboards and lawn signs he used to advertise them, because those were basically political ads in disguise and therefore had to be registered as elections expenses. xjayguyx posted... He didn't get the majority vote on Andrew S. And would even do worse today.. majority of Canada is done with the Libs from what I can tell. People have been saying this since before Trudeau even got the leadership position. I've learned to basically just tune it out, because it's never true. "He'll never make it, the other candidates will eat him alive in the leadership race." "OK, well, he got the leadership, but he's going to get destroyed in the elections. Harper and Mulcair will rip him apart in the debates." "OK, he did well in the debates, but he probably will only get a minority government." "Alright, he got his majority, but he'll be a one term PM for sure. Libs are going down next election!" "...OK, NEXT next election we'll definitely get him!" Maybe you guys will get it right eventually, but your track record hasn't been very good so far. FWIW, his current approval rating is 50%, which is actually higher than it was during the last election. Given that both the NDP and the Conservatives can't seem to find anyone with a pulse to be their leaders, I'm not seeing any great threats to Trudeau's government. xjayguyx posted... However I don't see the PPC as racist like others have said here. Yeah, it's not like they got one of their election ads taken down for being racist or anything. xjayguyx posted... I told a J walking Indian lady that I almost hit with my car that this is Canada you can't just walk where ever you want.. boy oh boy did she ever scream racist at me over and over.. me and my friends were like wtf to the max. Might have something to do with the fact that you have no way to know she was Indian, as opposed to Canadian, except by looking at her skin and assuming that she wasn't from here because she wasn't white. Which, yeah, is pretty racist, bro. xjayguyx posted... If Canada doesn't get it's crap together soon were in for a mega recession due to the Libs disgusting spending.. You could always head south to the States, where they've got a conservative guy in charge. ...except he's spending like a drunken sailor far worse than the Liberals are, blowing up the deficit despite being in an economic boom. Deficit spending isn't a party issue. Harper's conservatives were spending like mad and Trudeau's Liberals have basically done the same. To try to pin it on one party is simply wrong. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:934838806] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>xjayguyx posted... </cite> <quote>I watched some of their stuff and they show facts very often? The mainstream news however does not</quote>Neither of these statements are true. The mainstream news presents facts that you don't want to hear, so you're calling them lies and hoping no one notices. Rebel media posts falsehoods you agree with, so you're calling them facts, even though they're just far-right fan-fiction. xjayguyx posted... </cite> <quote>I'm not standing up for any body that's FAR left or right but I don't see rebel media as bad as you guys proclaim.</quote>Dude, they literally had people on The Daily Stormer's podcast. They actually had a reporter participating in (not covering - participating in) the Charlottesville neo-nazi rally. Short of calling themselves "The Brownshirts", I'm not really sure how much more overt they can be. Again, even the Conservatives won't touch these guys. That's how far right they are. xjayguyx posted... </cite> <quote>The guy that runs the rebel news made a anti Liberal book at the time of the election and the Liberals took them to court over it. The Libs lost and wasted a bunch of Canadian tax payer money over it.</quote>This is a gross misrepresentation of the facts, which is pretty much what I'd expect if you're getting your news from Rebel. First off, Levant wasn't taken to court by the Liberals, he was summoned by the Elections Commissioner, which is not a judicial process. And it wasn't because of the book, it was because of the billboards and lawn signs he used to advertise them, because those were basically political ads in disguise and therefore had to be registered as elections expenses. xjayguyx posted... </cite> <quote>He didn't get the majority vote on Andrew S. And would even do worse today.. majority of Canada is done with the Libs from what I can tell.</quote>People have been saying this since before Trudeau even got the leadership position. I've learned to basically just tune it out, because it's never true. "He'll never make it, the other candidates will eat him alive in the leadership race." "OK, well, he got the leadership, but he's going to get destroyed in the elections. Harper and Mulcair will rip him apart in the debates." "OK, he did well in the debates, but he probably will only get a minority government." "Alright, he got his majority, but he'll be a one term PM for sure. Libs are going down next election!" "...OK, NEXT next election we'll definitely get him!" Maybe you guys will get it right eventually, but your track record hasn't been very good so far. FWIW, his current approval rating is 50%, which is actually higher than it was during the last election. Given that both the NDP and the Conservatives can't seem to find anyone with a pulse to be their leaders, I'm not seeing any great threats to Trudeau's government. xjayguyx posted... </cite> <quote>However I don't see the PPC as racist like others have said here.</quote>Yeah, it's not like they got one of their election ads taken down for being racist or anything. xjayguyx posted... </cite> <quote>I told a J walking Indian lady that I almost hit with my car that this is Canada you can't just walk where ever you want.. boy oh boy did she ever scream racist at me over and over.. me and my friends were like wtf to the max.</quote>Might have something to do with the fact that you have no way to know she was Indian, as opposed to Canadian, except by looking at her skin and assuming that she wasn't from here because she wasn't white. Which, yeah, is pretty racist, bro. xjayguyx posted... </cite> <quote>If Canada doesn't get it's crap together soon were in for a mega recession due to the Libs disgusting spending..</quote>You could always head south to the States, where they've got a conservative guy in charge. ...except he's spending like a drunken sailor far worse than the Liberals are, blowing up the deficit despite being in an economic boom. Deficit spending isn't a party issue. Harper's conservatives were spending like mad and Trudeau's Liberals have basically done the same. To try to pin it on one party is simply wrong. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xjayguyx 02/25/20 12:21:33 AM #41:	Rebel darkknight109 posted... Neither of these statements are true. The mainstream news presents facts that you don't want to hear, so you're calling them lies and hoping no one notices. Rebel media posts falsehoods you agree with, so you're calling them facts, even though they're just far-right fan-fiction. Dude, they literally had people on The Daily Stormer's podcast. They actually had a reporter participating in (not covering - participating in) the Charlottesville neo-nazi rally. Short of calling themselves "The Brownshirts", I'm not really sure how much more overt they can be. Again, even the Conservatives won't touch these guys. That's how far right they are. This is a gross misrepresentation of the facts, which is pretty much what I'd expect if you're getting your news from Rebel. First off, Levant wasn't taken to court by the Liberals, he was summoned by the Elections Commissioner, which is not a judicial process. And it wasn't because of the book, it was because of the billboards and lawn signs he used to advertise them, because those were basically political ads in disguise and therefore had to be registered as elections expenses. People have been saying this since before Trudeau even got the leadership position. I've learned to basically just tune it out, because it's never true. "He'll never make it, the other candidates will eat him alive in the leadership race." "OK, well, he got the leadership, but he's going to get destroyed in the elections. Harper and Mulcair will rip him apart in the debates." "OK, he did well in the debates, but he probably will only get a minority government." "Alright, he got his majority, but he'll be a one term PM for sure. Libs are going down next election!" "...OK, NEXT next election we'll definitely get him!" Maybe you guys will get it right eventually, but your track record hasn't been very good so far. FWIW, his current approval rating is 50%, which is actually higher than it was during the last election. Given that both the NDP and the Conservatives can't seem to find anyone with a pulse to be their leaders, I'm not seeing any great threats to Trudeau's government. Yeah, it's not like they got one of their election ads taken down for being racist or anything. Might have something to do with the fact that you have no way to know she was Indian, as opposed to Canadian, except by looking at her skin and assuming that she wasn't from here because she wasn't white. Which, yeah, is pretty racist, bro. You could always head south to the States, where they've got a conservative guy in charge. ...except he's spending like a drunken sailor far worse than the Liberals are, blowing up the deficit despite being in an economic boom. Deficit spending isn't a party issue. Harper's conservatives were spending like mad and Trudeau's Liberals have basically done the same. To try to pin it on one party is simply wrong. Rebel news shows lots of facts and paperwork, I never see that on mainstream bought off news.. mind you I don't watch mainstream anymore but I doubt they do now. And she was from India you clown. I can tell we were in a 90%+ Indian area as well. Even my Brown friend was like wtf she's crazy. And where you see 50% approval? Mainstream media? Lmao. You sound just like any leftist nutball dude. Why don't you go join the protests with all the nutballs that have no idea what they are protesting about. <cite>xjayguyx posted [p:934839354] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>Rebel darkknight109 posted... </cite> <quote>Neither of these statements are true. The mainstream news presents facts that you don't want to hear, so you're calling them lies and hoping no one notices. Rebel media posts falsehoods you agree with, so you're calling them facts, even though they're just far-right fan-fiction. Dude, they literally had people on The Daily Stormer's podcast. They actually had a reporter participating in (not covering - participating in) the Charlottesville neo-nazi rally. Short of calling themselves "The Brownshirts", I'm not really sure how much more overt they can be. Again, even the Conservatives won't touch these guys. That's how far right they are. This is a gross misrepresentation of the facts, which is pretty much what I'd expect if you're getting your news from Rebel. First off, Levant wasn't taken to court by the Liberals, he was summoned by the Elections Commissioner, which is not a judicial process. And it wasn't because of the book, it was because of the billboards and lawn signs he used to advertise them, because those were basically political ads in disguise and therefore had to be registered as elections expenses. People have been saying this since before Trudeau even got the leadership position. I've learned to basically just tune it out, because it's never true. "He'll never make it, the other candidates will eat him alive in the leadership race." "OK, well, he got the leadership, but he's going to get destroyed in the elections. Harper and Mulcair will rip him apart in the debates." "OK, he did well in the debates, but he probably will only get a minority government." "Alright, he got his majority, but he'll be a one term PM for sure. Libs are going down next election!" "...OK, NEXT next election we'll definitely get him!" Maybe you guys will get it right eventually, but your track record hasn't been very good so far. FWIW, his current approval rating is 50%, which is actually higher than it was during the last election. Given that both the NDP and the Conservatives can't seem to find anyone with a pulse to be their leaders, I'm not seeing any great threats to Trudeau's government. Yeah, it's not like they got one of their election ads taken down for being racist or anything. Might have something to do with the fact that you have no way to know she was Indian, as opposed to Canadian, except by looking at her skin and assuming that she wasn't from here because she wasn't white. Which, yeah, is pretty racist, bro. You could always head south to the States, where they've got a conservative guy in charge. ...except he's spending like a drunken sailor far worse than the Liberals are, blowing up the deficit despite being in an economic boom. Deficit spending isn't a party issue. Harper's conservatives were spending like mad and Trudeau's Liberals have basically done the same. To try to pin it on one party is simply wrong.</quote> Rebel news shows lots of facts and paperwork, I never see that on mainstream bought off news.. mind you I don't watch mainstream anymore but I doubt they do now. And she was from India you clown. I can tell we were in a 90%+ Indian area as well. Even my Brown friend was like wtf she's crazy. And where you see 50% approval? Mainstream media? Lmao. You sound just like any leftist nutball dude. Why don't you go join the protests with all the nutballs that have no idea what they are protesting about. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xjayguyx 02/25/20 12:29:49 AM #42:	darkknight109 posted... Neither of these statements are true. The mainstream news presents facts that you don't want to hear, so you're calling them lies and hoping no one notices. Rebel media posts falsehoods you agree with, so you're calling them facts, even though they're just far-right fan-fiction. Dude, they literally had people on The Daily Stormer's podcast. They actually had a reporter participating in (not covering - participating in) the Charlottesville neo-nazi rally. Short of calling themselves "The Brownshirts", I'm not really sure how much more overt they can be. Again, even the Conservatives won't touch these guys. That's how far right they are. This is a gross misrepresentation of the facts, which is pretty much what I'd expect if you're getting your news from Rebel. First off, Levant wasn't taken to court by the Liberals, he was summoned by the Elections Commissioner, which is not a judicial process. And it wasn't because of the book, it was because of the billboards and lawn signs he used to advertise them, because those were basically political ads in disguise and therefore had to be registered as elections expenses. People have been saying this since before Trudeau even got the leadership position. I've learned to basically just tune it out, because it's never true. "He'll never make it, the other candidates will eat him alive in the leadership race." "OK, well, he got the leadership, but he's going to get destroyed in the elections. Harper and Mulcair will rip him apart in the debates." "OK, he did well in the debates, but he probably will only get a minority government." "Alright, he got his majority, but he'll be a one term PM for sure. Libs are going down next election!" "...OK, NEXT next election we'll definitely get him!" Maybe you guys will get it right eventually, but your track record hasn't been very good so far. FWIW, his current approval rating is 50%, which is actually higher than it was during the last election. Given that both the NDP and the Conservatives can't seem to find anyone with a pulse to be their leaders, I'm not seeing any great threats to Trudeau's government. Yeah, it's not like they got one of their election ads taken down for being racist or anything. Might have something to do with the fact that you have no way to know she was Indian, as opposed to Canadian, except by looking at her skin and assuming that she wasn't from here because she wasn't white. Which, yeah, is pretty racist, bro. You could always head south to the States, where they've got a conservative guy in charge. ...except he's spending like a drunken sailor far worse than the Liberals are, blowing up the deficit despite being in an economic boom. Deficit spending isn't a party issue. Harper's conservatives were spending like mad and Trudeau's Liberals have basically done the same. To try to pin it on one party is simply wrong. Also I watched a video showing why they were after Levant and the book was in their reasons. <cite>xjayguyx posted [p:934839556] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>darkknight109 posted... </cite> <quote>Neither of these statements are true. The mainstream news presents facts that you don't want to hear, so you're calling them lies and hoping no one notices. Rebel media posts falsehoods you agree with, so you're calling them facts, even though they're just far-right fan-fiction. Dude, they literally had people on The Daily Stormer's podcast. They actually had a reporter participating in (not covering - participating in) the Charlottesville neo-nazi rally. Short of calling themselves "The Brownshirts", I'm not really sure how much more overt they can be. Again, even the Conservatives won't touch these guys. That's how far right they are. This is a gross misrepresentation of the facts, which is pretty much what I'd expect if you're getting your news from Rebel. First off, Levant wasn't taken to court by the Liberals, he was summoned by the Elections Commissioner, which is not a judicial process. And it wasn't because of the book, it was because of the billboards and lawn signs he used to advertise them, because those were basically political ads in disguise and therefore had to be registered as elections expenses. People have been saying this since before Trudeau even got the leadership position. I've learned to basically just tune it out, because it's never true. "He'll never make it, the other candidates will eat him alive in the leadership race." "OK, well, he got the leadership, but he's going to get destroyed in the elections. Harper and Mulcair will rip him apart in the debates." "OK, he did well in the debates, but he probably will only get a minority government." "Alright, he got his majority, but he'll be a one term PM for sure. Libs are going down next election!" "...OK, NEXT next election we'll definitely get him!" Maybe you guys will get it right eventually, but your track record hasn't been very good so far. FWIW, his current approval rating is 50%, which is actually higher than it was during the last election. Given that both the NDP and the Conservatives can't seem to find anyone with a pulse to be their leaders, I'm not seeing any great threats to Trudeau's government. Yeah, it's not like they got one of their election ads taken down for being racist or anything. Might have something to do with the fact that you have no way to know she was Indian, as opposed to Canadian, except by looking at her skin and assuming that she wasn't from here because she wasn't white. Which, yeah, is pretty racist, bro. You could always head south to the States, where they've got a conservative guy in charge. ...except he's spending like a drunken sailor far worse than the Liberals are, blowing up the deficit despite being in an economic boom. Deficit spending isn't a party issue. Harper's conservatives were spending like mad and Trudeau's Liberals have basically done the same. To try to pin it on one party is simply wrong.</quote> Also I watched a video showing why they were after Levant and the book was in their reasons. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheWitchMorgana 02/25/20 12:30:10 AM #43:	you really tried the "i'm not racist i have a brown friend who magically agrees with everything i say" huh --- and love comes back around again, it's a carousel, my friend <cite>TheWitchMorgana posted [p:934839567] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>you really tried the "i'm not racist i have a brown friend who magically agrees with everything i say" huh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xjayguyx 02/25/20 12:35:05 AM #44:	TheWitchMorgana posted... you really tried the "i'm not racist i have a brown friend who magically agrees with everything i say" huh Typical leftist nutball at it's finest. Literally half of my friends are of color / immigrants. But this doesn't surprise me much, lefties think everything is racist and everyone is racist. Offended much? <cite>xjayguyx posted [p:934839689] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>TheWitchMorgana posted... </cite> <quote>you really tried the "i'm not racist i have a brown friend who magically agrees with everything i say" huh</quote> Typical leftist nutball at it's finest. Literally half of my friends are of color / immigrants. But this doesn't surprise me much, lefties think everything is racist and everyone is racist. Offended much? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheWitchMorgana 02/25/20 12:39:22 AM #45:	i never said everyone is racist, but you most definitely are racist --- and love comes back around again, it's a carousel, my friend <cite>TheWitchMorgana posted [p:934839804] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>i never said everyone is racist, but you most definitely are racist </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheWitchMorgana 02/25/20 12:40:25 AM #46:	it's funny how you couldn't even maintain your neutral just asking questions tone for the entire topic. fash are all the same. you poke them once and they go full mask off lmao --- and love comes back around again, it's a carousel, my friend <cite>TheWitchMorgana posted [p:934839837] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>it's funny how you couldn't even maintain your neutral just asking questions tone for the entire topic. fash are all the same. you poke them once and they go full mask off lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
faramir77 02/25/20 12:41:36 AM #47:	xjayguyx posted... Typical leftist nutball at it's finest. Literally half of my friends are of color / immigrants. But this doesn't surprise me much, lefties think everything is racist and everyone is racist. Offended much? This kind of stupid, toxic, immature response is exactly why many people aren't voting conservative anymore. Myself included. --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiCtAUrZbUk -- Defeating the Running Man of Ocarina of Time in a race since 01/17/2009. -- <cite>faramir77 posted [p:934839879] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>xjayguyx posted... </cite> <quote>Typical leftist nutball at it's finest. Literally half of my friends are of color / immigrants. But this doesn't surprise me much, lefties think everything is racist and everyone is racist. Offended much?</quote> This kind of stupid, toxic, immature response is exactly why many people aren't voting conservative anymore. Myself included. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xjayguyx 02/25/20 12:41:42 AM #48:	TheWitchMorgana posted... i never said everyone is racist, but you most definitely are racist Again typical lefties thinking I'm racist when you don't even know me. Why would half my friends and some of my past girlfriends be of color if I was racist? Man your so far left you probably think you yourself is a racist. Do you look in the mirror in the morning with disgust? <cite>xjayguyx posted [p:934839881] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>TheWitchMorgana posted... </cite> <quote>i never said everyone is racist, but you most definitely are racist</quote> Again typical lefties thinking I'm racist when you don't even know me. Why would half my friends and some of my past girlfriends be of color if I was racist? Man your so far left you probably think you yourself is a racist. Do you look in the mirror in the morning with disgust? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xjayguyx 02/25/20 12:42:54 AM #49:	faramir77 posted... This kind of stupid, toxic, immature response is exactly why many people aren't voting conservative anymore. Myself included. You leftist are why I'm losing hope in humanity, oops I mean people kindity. <cite>xjayguyx posted [p:934839913] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>faramir77 posted... </cite> <quote>This kind of stupid, toxic, immature response is exactly why many people aren't voting conservative anymore. Myself included.</quote> You leftist are why I'm losing hope in humanity, oops I mean people kindity. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheWitchMorgana 02/25/20 1:09:30 AM #50:	you honestly sound like a child right now. with all the good faith i can muster, i sincerely hope you self-reflect on why you've grown so hateful and paranoid --- and love comes back around again, it's a carousel, my friend <cite>TheWitchMorgana posted [p:934840549] in Any Canadi... [t:78427502]...</cite> <quote>you honestly sound like a child right now. with all the good faith i can muster, i sincerely hope you self-reflect on why you've grown so hateful and paranoid </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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