Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 270: Bloomberg/Clinton 2020 Campaign HQ

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Okay, rare criticism from me for Joe: I feel very strongly that politicians should not direct prosecutions of anyone.

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Mayor Pete just repeats talking points.

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Sanders: "Can I respond to the attack made on me three talking points ago? No? Just gonna ignore the raised hand?"

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MSNBC sucks at moderating no real surprise.

I am guessing everyone will try to say this hurts Bernie in the msm but I think my impression is Warren doing great and Bloomberg on fire

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https://twitter.com/bpmehlman/status/1230322298051342338

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Lotm didnt you say you had Bloomberg > sanders on your personal rankings? Any change of heart?

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I was worried about the media continuing to slob all over Bloomberg but there's a limit on how much they can spin. He's getting buried.

Sanders has been raising his hand for the past 15 minutes.

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Lotm didnt you say you had Bloomberg > sanders on your personal rankings? Any change of heart?

I currently have them roughly tied at "I don't even want to think about it"

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KamikazePotato posted...

I was worried about the media continuing to slob all over Bloomberg but there's a limit on how much they can spin. He's getting buried.

Sanders has been raising his hand for the past 15 minutes.

Tbh no talk time isn't the worst thing for Bernie.

Also bless dnc for changing the rules

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Man theyve gone three or four questions and responses referencing Bernie now without letting him speak, but lets go back to Mayor Pete by all means.

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Um what Bloomberg

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So I take it back. If everyone wants to drop out and have debates be Bloomberg vs sanders I am now ready for that.

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I don't think I've ever seen Bernie so confused as when Bloomberg told him that he wrote the tax code.

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Pete: "I think it's a great idea for employees to have ownership of the company, but we shouldn't force it to happen."

So...how's it gonna happen then?

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KamikazePotato posted...

I don't think I've ever seen Bernie so confused as when Bloomberg told him that he wrote the tax code.

Bold move Bloomberg

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That bit from Sanders would be the quote of the night if Warren wasn't already taking up all of the Top 5.

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god dammit nevada don't applaud bloomberg when he says he has a lot of money

he isn't ACTUALLY giving it all away

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I think Bloomberg hears boss music every time Warren speaks.

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Bernie destroyed the socialism question.

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Yeah Bernie is turning up in this second half.

Bloomberg is getting openly booed by the crowd on half the things he says, god damn.

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Oh hey, an actual hard question for Pete.

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only been listening for the past half hour.
bloomberg's getting shots in and he's coming off as the figure, whether he gets hit or hits back. i'm hoping the hour before it was different because in the past half hour he's just gaining credibility.

also the entire idea of workers on the board or employees owning the company is not going to work. he was right to hit bernie on that by calling it communism.

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This second half isn't great for Bloomberg, but it's definitely better for him than the first half.

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Wanglicious posted...

only been listening for the past half hour.
bloomberg's getting shots in and he's coming off as the figure, whether he gets hit or hits back. i'm hoping the hour before it was different because in the past half hour he's just gaining credibility.

also the entire idea of workers on the board or employees owning the company is not going to work. he was right to hit bernie on that by calling it communism.

First hour was a thing of beauty

This past bit has been more back and forth

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KamikazePotato posted...

Bloomberg is getting openly booed by the crowd on half the things he says, god damn.

it's a big reaction that centers the conversation on him, his topic, and makes the conversation about what he's talking about. look right now - the communism statement was made 10 minutes ago. we're still on this topic. if he's in control, it's his debate.


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Amy is losing it.

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Wanglicious posted...

also the entire idea of workers on the board or employees owning the company is not going to work. he was right to hit bernie on that by calling it communism

LOL how was he right when hes factually wrong?

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Out of all the Wang takes in this topic series so far, this is easily the worst. Maybe watch the full debate first.

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Oh wait, Wangs not even paying attention so its not worth debating this

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LordoftheMorons posted...

This second half isn't great for Bloomberg, but it's definitely better for him than the first half.

DoomTheGyarados posted...

First hour was a thing of beauty

This past bit has been more back and forth

okay that makes me more hopeful there. and it's not great for him on content but when every topic is basically about Bloomberg and he can shift the conversation i'm just going "so this race is Bloomberg vs. 5 other people and he's not doing too bad and sounds reasonable." if he's the center of attention then it's his victory, regardless of crowd reaction, as it furthers his control on the election.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

LOL how was he right when hes factually wrong?

worker ownership over the company sounds like it's something straight out of communism. if that's not the intent, it should be phrased differently.

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KamikazePotato posted...

Out of all the Wang takes in this topic series so far, this is easily the worst. Maybe watch the full debate first.

nah, that's not how it works. 90% of people are going to get this debate in snippets, not the full debate, and that's how it's going to be talked about along with overall theme. which, if it's just bloomberg, is a damning situation.

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Trust me dude, the story of the day is Bloomberg's evisceration

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I feel like Pete has said that enlightened centrist talking point about how Bloomberg and Bernie are BOTH equally extreme every other god damn time he speaks

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Yang reference!

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You can tell that Amy absolutely despises Pete

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Wanglicious posted...

worker ownership over the company sounds like it's something straight out of communism. if that's not the intent, it should be phrased differently.

Setting aside that the 2nd largest retailer in the world, CostCo, has an employee ownership program, I dont believe Bernie said ownership, he said on the Board of Directors and should have a say in their workplaces because many people hate their jobs.

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Yes

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Hahaha I love that

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ah. alright that's fairly typical good union practice. union having a place on the board is sensible. i stand corrected there.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

You can tell that Amy absolutely despises Pete

You really can.

Man, all these Democrats talking big about following the popular vote and Chuck Todd straight up framed it 5 nos and a yes to following the will of the people.

Interesting.

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In fairness saying yes is not smart politically.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

You really can.

Man, all these Democrats talking big about following the popular vote and Chuck Todd straight up framed it 5 nos and a yes to following the will of the people.

Interesting.

I will agree that it's a REALLY bad look, given how Trump took control of the country in the first place. Bernie is right. Giving the nomination to the person with the most delegates is the easiest way to avoid controversy. The "moderate wing" had more delegates overall? Well some of them should've dropped the fuck out and let their voters coalesce around a single candidate.

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and damn. the pete robogieg is better than the rubot with that reply to klobuchar.

HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

I feel like Pete has said that enlightened centrist talking point about how Bloomberg and Bernie are BOTH equally extreme every other god damn time he speaks

in the first 20 minutes i heard i'm pretty sure he said that at least 3 times. 'he's polarizing, he's polarizing, pick me!' if that's all he's been doing then i guess he's got nothing left considering that option is still biden.

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Inviso posted...

I will agree that it's a REALLY bad look, given how Trump took control of the country in the first place. Bernie is right. Giving the nomination to the person with the most delegates is the easiest way to avoid controversy. The "moderate wing" had more delegates overall? Well some of them should've dropped the fuck out and let their voters coalesce around a single candidate.

Well it's very easy for Bernie to say that when he's the very likely beneficiary of that approach...!

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Well it's very easy for Bernie to say that when he's the very likely beneficiary of that approach...!

I think its a downright certainty that the Dems lose against Trump if they dont follow it, even if its not Bernie with the most.


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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

I think its a downright certainty that the Dems lose against Trump if they dont follow it, even if its not Bernie with the most.

only way they go against it is if something major happens and the last couple votes are a landslide in one direction.

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hm. so attacking bernie on immigration is biden's new policy?
it's a winning subject for general election but for democrat primary, total miss.

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He has to try to get Latinos away from Bernie

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Wanglicious posted...

hm. so attacking bernie on immigration is biden's new policy?
it's a winning subject for general election but for democrat primary, total miss.

Recent polls show Bernie shooting ahead of everyone else with Latino voters, so its a truly baffling play from Joe tbh.

Edit: Joe should talk about why hes good for them, attacking their favorite guy could backfire bigly imo

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