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DarthAragorn
02/19/20 11:58:24 AM
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How the fuck do people play multiplayer games on wifi, man?

My house isn't even wired for it either, running Ethernet from my router into a coaxial cable into my room then back to an Ethernet cable. Had to buy adapters for it but so worth it.
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Ghetto_Turtle
02/19/20 12:01:22 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
unning Ethernet from my router into a coaxial cable into my room then back to an Ethernet cable
why not just use a really long ethernet cable?
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DarthAragorn
02/19/20 12:02:25 PM
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Ghetto_Turtle posted...
why not just use a really long ethernet cable?
because that looks awful and would have to go through the living room and up the stairs and that's not really an option
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Rexdragon125
02/19/20 12:04:21 PM
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Gotta love how you pretty much have to give up and go do something else if someone turns on the microwave when you're on wifi. What idiot thought it would be a good idea to use the same frequency as microwaves.
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Prismsblade
02/19/20 12:06:49 PM
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I've never noticed many differance for a time when I switched over to ethernet.

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Ghetto_Turtle
02/19/20 12:07:29 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
because that looks awful and would have to go through the living room and up the stairs and that's not really an option
i assume that means you did something different with the coaxial so why couldn't you apply the same solution to a long ethernet cable? i'm genuinely curious
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Veggeta X
02/19/20 12:08:11 PM
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Hardwire is always better.

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DarthAragorn
02/19/20 12:08:17 PM
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Prismsblade posted...
I've never noticed many differance for a time when I switched over to ethernet.
I've got Google Fiber so my speeds are 2 to 3 times what they were over wifi lol

But also network instability and lag are near eliminated, FPS games have felt significantly better so far
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PatrickMahomes
02/19/20 12:08:56 PM
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Rexdragon125 posted...
Gotta love how you pretty much have to give up and go do something else if someone turns on the microwave when you're on wifi. What idiot thought it would be a good idea to use the same frequency as microwaves.
What is this, 2009? Who still has this issue?

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DarthAragorn
02/19/20 12:10:55 PM
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Ghetto_Turtle posted...
i assume that means you did something different with the coaxial so why couldn't you apply the same solution to a long ethernet cable? i'm genuinely curious
No, I didn't actually touch the cables in the walls or install anything, just router -> adapter -> coax port and then each room (only my bedroom with PC and games right now) does coax port -> adapter -> PC. Odered more Ethernet cables that are coming today, so I can plug everything in the room in to a switch and plug the switch to the adapter.

it's one of these things for those curious https://www.amazon.com/MOTOROLA-Adapter-Ethernet-Bonded-MM1000/dp/B077Y3SQXR
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Ghetto_Turtle
02/19/20 12:13:26 PM
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okay I think I'm with you but to clarify, the coax port were already installed so it was easier to use those than run the long cable behind the walls ect. ? That would make perfect sense. I thought maybe there was a technical reason for it.
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DarthAragorn
02/19/20 12:15:26 PM
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Ghetto_Turtle posted...
okay I think I'm with you but to clarify, the coax port were already installed so it was easier to use those than run the long cable behind the walls ect. ? That would make perfect sense. I thought maybe there was a technical reason for it.
Right. My house when built was wired for cable but not ethernet. So for those in a similar situation, this is an option if you're sick of dealing with bad wifi.
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E32005
02/19/20 12:16:14 PM
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Withernet when?
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Crepes
02/19/20 12:16:34 PM
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Ghetto_Turtle posted...
i assume that means you did something different with the coaxial so why couldn't you apply the same solution to a long ethernet cable? i'm genuinely curious

I assume dude has some preinstalled cabling in his house for tv or something. No idea on how efficient it is to convert to Eth to Coax and back though.Probably need some sort of modulator.

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teepan95
02/19/20 12:18:23 PM
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I have a similar setup, except instead of coax I use power to line communication
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DarthAragorn
02/19/20 12:19:38 PM
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teepan95 posted...
I have a similar setup, except instead of coax I use power to line communication
I almost went with Powerline adapters instead! But did some reading and it sounded a bit more iffy on how well it would work plus the potential speeds and it sounded like it wouldn't be nearly as good.
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teepan95
02/19/20 12:21:15 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
teepan95 posted...
I have a similar setup, except instead of coax I use power to line communication
I almost went with Powerline adapters instead! But did some reading and it sounded a bit more iffy on how well it would work plus the potential speeds and it sounded like it wouldn't be nearly as good.

I get up to 2 Mb/s down, which is enough for me

I'd happily lay an Ethernet cable down but it'd be too long. Plus I can't put it in the walls due to the landlord probably getting annoyed
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DarthAragorn
02/19/20 12:28:09 PM
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Godnorgosh posted...
Before I got into competitive Smash 64 (where we play with zero-delay CRTs) and networking I was doing shit like connecting my consoles to the living-room TV wirelessly and dealing with seconds of input delay. Or getting not even half the speed we're provisioned for on my PC. It was awful, and I wish I'd seen the light sooner. Ethernet 5ever.
That sounds awful, lol. I've tried to remote play single player games from my desktop to my laptop over two different wireless networks and I made it about 2 minutes, the delay and pixelation was just too much for me to deal with.

teepan95 posted...
I get up to 2 Mb/s down, which is enough for me

I'd happily lay an Ethernet cable down but it'd be too long. Plus I can't put it in the walls due to the landlord probably getting annoyed
I'm getting up to 800 Mb/s both ways this way <_<
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teepan95
02/19/20 12:31:10 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
I'm getting up to 800 Mb/s both ways this way <_<

...I need to phone my landlord asap
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E32005
02/19/20 12:34:01 PM
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teepan95 posted...
Plus I can't put it in the walls due to the landlord probably getting annoyed

you probably could if its just drywall.

small drill hole to feed the cable. when you move just patch it with a bit of spackle
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Heineken14
02/19/20 12:34:57 PM
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Heineken14
02/19/20 12:36:50 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...

I almost went with Powerline adapters instead! But did some reading and it sounded a bit more iffy on how well it would work plus the potential speeds and it sounded like it wouldn't be nearly as good.


I've used Ethernet over power at 2 different houses now and have had no issues with any sort of streaming or with anybsorts of gaming.
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Master_Bass
02/19/20 12:39:00 PM
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Heineken14 posted...
https://www.amazon.com/Powerline-Computer-Network-Adapters/b?ie=UTF8&node=1194444

Those are real hit or miss. Might be worth a shot, though.
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teepan95
02/19/20 12:39:00 PM
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Heineken14 posted...
DarthAragorn posted...

I almost went with Powerline adapters instead! But did some reading and it sounded a bit more iffy on how well it would work plus the potential speeds and it sounded like it wouldn't be nearly as good.


I've used Ethernet over power at 2 different houses now and have had no issues with any sort of streaming or with anybsorts of gaming.

What speeds do you get?
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Heineken14
02/19/20 12:39:43 PM
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teepan95 posted...


What speeds do you get?


Not sure, I've never tested. I'll do so later today and report back.
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teepan95
02/19/20 12:40:07 PM
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Heineken14 posted...
teepan95 posted...


What speeds do you get?


Not sure, I've never tested. I'll do so later today and report back.

OK, thanks!!
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Crepes
02/19/20 1:38:52 PM
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teepan95 posted...
I get up to 2 Mb/s down, which is enough for me

I'd happily lay an Ethernet cable down but it'd be too long. Plus I can't put it in the walls due to the landlord probably getting annoyed

What is the latency like? I feel thats a more important metric than pure bandwidth.

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Heineken14
02/19/20 2:02:03 PM
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teepan95 posted...


OK, thanks!!


@teepan95

So PC I got 115MB down/11.5MB up with 9ms ping. Hooked a laptop up to my adapter out in the living room and got 33MB down/12MB up with 12ms ping.
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apocalyptic_4
02/19/20 2:07:37 PM
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I have a 100 foot ethernet cord connected from my living room all the way into my basement I taped the wire all along the roof and wall I dont care how bad it looks

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KamenRiderBlade
02/19/20 2:10:02 PM
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I'm on a Range Extender that's connected to from the main WiFi Router.

The 5.0 GHz spectrum is my dedicated frequency / connection between WiFi Router and Range Extender.

I just leave 2.4 GHz spectrum is only for local device connections.

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sLaCkEr408___RJ
02/19/20 2:10:23 PM
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My console is downstairs but modem upstairs
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Pitlord_Special
02/19/20 2:42:51 PM
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As a former cable tech, Im mildly impressed that you got a MoCA system working on your own.

Did you do anything with the coax configuration/splitters or did it just work out without any special effort?

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KamenRiderBlade
02/19/20 2:45:19 PM
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Heineken14 posted...
@teepan95

So PC I got 115MB down/11.5MB up with 9ms ping. Hooked a laptop up to my adapter out in the living room and got 33MB down/12MB up with 12ms ping.
That DL Bandwidth difference is large.

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DarthAragorn
02/19/20 3:04:44 PM
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Pitlord_Special posted...
As a former cable tech, Im mildly impressed that you got a MoCA system working on your own.

Did you do anything with the coax configuration/splitters or did it just work out without any special effort?

With the adapters I linked somewhere ITT it worked out just fine on it's own
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Heineken14
02/19/20 3:51:17 PM
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KamenRiderBlade posted...

That DL Bandwidth difference is large.


Yeah, that was a bit shocking. Not sure if cable or the fact the laptop uses one of those USB Ethernet adapters or if it's just that much degredation. Either way, like I said I've never had issues streaming video or Xbox live. /shrug
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KamenRiderBlade
02/19/20 4:02:38 PM
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Heineken14 posted...
Yeah, that was a bit shocking. Not sure if cable or the fact the laptop uses one of those USB Ethernet adapters or if it's just that much degredation. Either way, like I said I've never had issues streaming video or Xbox live. /shrug
You were using Ethernet adaptor over USB?

USB 2.0?

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DarthAragorn
02/19/20 5:16:56 PM
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I should have included this in the original post, I went from this

https://www.speedtest.net/result/8846019548.png

To this

https://www.speedtest.net/result/9054816093.png
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ToPoPO
02/19/20 5:25:57 PM
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I just use a hardline adapter
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teepan95
02/20/20 2:41:04 AM
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Heineken14 posted...
So PC I got 115MB down/11.5MB up with 9ms ping. Hooked a laptop up to my adapter out in the living room and got 33MB down/12MB up with 12ms ping.

Damn, what am I doing wrong?
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ArchNemo
02/20/20 2:56:02 AM
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Check out Hollywood over here
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Kamil
02/20/20 3:01:59 AM
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Well the benefit is having the option of both. I wouldn't host a game on a wi-fi network, but I had to live in the worse fucking apt ever afterwhile with shit wired network b/c nuclear family for reasons for the longest time (ramble deleted). It somehow did host Diablo 1 joins but it was complicated AF and I did a lot of for work that, but seriously while I did, the amount of ppl wanting to legit play Diablo 1 over battlenet while Diablo 3 was fresh was rare. But a weird mind trip back to 1996 when I was still legit happy.

tldr

I downloaded 8 gigs off PSN in like 5 minutes off wi-fi at new apt. Sometimes the new age is nice to you.

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Kamil
02/20/20 3:04:20 AM
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Was rare but happened, also I ran D1 and D3 at the same time. Truly revolutionary.

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