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Bass_X0
02/18/20 1:29:05 PM
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Even though the message is promoting the beautiful person within regardless of what the outside looks like?

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KawiKa
02/18/20 1:29:24 PM
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No.
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DeadBankerDream
02/18/20 1:29:52 PM
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It was honestly kind of gross when it came out as well.
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Boombam99
02/18/20 1:32:38 PM
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How about that comedy movie Soul Man from the 80's where the white kid goes to college in blackface so he can get a scholarship.
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The-19th-Sparta
02/18/20 1:35:35 PM
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Careful with this topic my friend, now some soft people might want to try cancel culturing Jack Black and Gwyneth Paltrow.

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Lost_All_Senses
02/18/20 1:36:35 PM
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The-19th-Sparta posted...
now some soft people might want to try cancel culturing Jack Black and Gwyneth Paltrow

Tbf, Gwyneth should of been cancelled when she had women poisoning their coochies.

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J03can
02/18/20 1:38:41 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
It was honestly kind of gross when it came out as well.
And not a good movie.

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inloveanddeath0
02/18/20 1:38:46 PM
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dolomedes posted...
oh no please protect the dude from tenacious D and a literal millionaire snake oil salesperson
No need to be petty

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Romulox28
02/18/20 1:39:47 PM
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gwyneth paltrow's character would be considered thin by 2020 standards

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BuckVanHammer
02/18/20 1:40:19 PM
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ya it caught heat when it dropped...

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sLaCkEr408___RJ
02/18/20 2:16:08 PM
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I liked Shallow Hal and the moral was wholesome.
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Jagr_68
02/18/20 2:22:58 PM
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Hollywood actually tried it again with Rebel Wilson as a supermodel but it was about as garbage as you'd expect.

Only reason Shallow Hal worked was mostly the manipulative Farrelly Bros charm to offset the slapstick gross humor. It wouldn't work with another director.

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TheMikh
02/18/20 2:26:10 PM
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the controversy in this day and age would have less to do with the message, and more to do with the fact that the person playing the fat girl wasn't actually fat, thus depriving plus-sized actresses of opportunities or something

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pegusus123456
02/20/20 7:39:48 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
It was honestly kind of gross when it came out as well.
This. In theory, the message is a good one, but I recall it mostly just being jokes about how fat the lady was.

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creativerealms
02/20/20 7:42:26 AM
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No it was very progressive for its time and would be recognised as such now.

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SpaceBear_
02/20/20 7:46:44 AM
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TheMikh posted...
the controversy in this day and age would have less to do with the message, and more to do with the fact that the person playing the fat girl wasn't actually fat, thus depriving plus-sized actresses of opportunities or something

This

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pinky0926
02/20/20 7:47:23 AM
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A small part of me would like to see White Chicks made again to see the pearl clutching going on

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Zanzenburger
02/20/20 7:48:20 AM
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That scene at the burn ward gets me every time. :(

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DeadBankerDream
02/20/20 8:00:08 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...

This. In theory, the message is a good one, but I recall it mostly just being jokes about how fat the lady was.

Also, the idea of conflating inner beauty with physical hotness is just icky.
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MrMallard
02/20/20 8:05:35 AM
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It's been a while, but I remember gags like the girlfriend jumping into the pool and cutting 3/4ths of a birthday cake off to enjoy for herself being pretty shitty towards an exaggerated profile of fat people. The movie's about teaching a shallow prick the meaning of inner beauty, but it does that with the same fat person jokes that contribute to bullying.

It's probably a decent enough movie for the early 2000's, bit I seriously doubt it holds up.

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DyingPancake
02/20/20 8:07:26 AM
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It was actually on tv the other day and I watched some of it (haven't seen it since it first released)

It's one of those weird movies where its not really good or very funny, but is still enjoyable to watch

There wasn't really anything in there that should have offended anyone, so yea it probably wouldn't fly today

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Jagr_68
02/20/20 8:43:31 AM
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MrMallard posted...
It's been a while, but I remember gags like the girlfriend jumping into the pool and cutting 3/4ths of a birthday cake off to enjoy for herself being pretty shitty towards an exaggerated profile of fat people. The movie's about teaching a shallow prick the meaning of inner beauty, but it does that with the same fat person jokes that contribute to bullying.

It's probably a decent enough movie for the early 2000's, bit I seriously doubt it holds up.

It's all fat jokes through and through but because Gwyneth Paltrow is the lead co-star, she's the butt of those gags as herself not as the eventual fat suit character that is revealed later, which I guess was that emotional moment the movie was tugging for. Looking back at it now, it's a very weird anomaly of charm and manipulation and probably done as good as that premise could possibly could get.


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Bass_X0
02/20/20 1:25:06 PM
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TheMikh posted...
the controversy in this day and age would have less to do with the message, and more to do with the fact that the person playing the fat girl wasn't actually fat, thus depriving plus-sized actresses of opportunities or something

But the same woman also needs to be shown as slim for the movie to work.

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Bass_X0
02/20/20 1:30:34 PM
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MrMallard posted...
It's been a while, but I remember gags like the girlfriend jumping into the pool and cutting 3/4ths of a birthday cake off to enjoy for herself being pretty shitty towards an exaggerated profile of fat people. The movie's about teaching a shallow prick the meaning of inner beauty, but it does that with the same fat person jokes that contribute to bullying.

It's probably a decent enough movie for the early 2000's, bit I seriously doubt it holds up.

Millennials thought Friends was toxic for making fun on Monica's teenage years. I imagine they arent aware of Shallow Hal.

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DD Divine
02/20/20 2:02:44 PM
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Zanzenburger posted...
That scene at the burn ward gets me every time. :(

this. Goddamn

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Lordgold666
02/20/20 2:47:01 PM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kHmRJ7oFBOE

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