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MrToothHasYou
02/04/20 12:08:05 AM
#152:


Antifar posted...
At least all the results were in this time four years ago.
Only because they weren't releasing vote totals four years ago, so they didn't have to bother worrying about discrepancies. In fact they probably never even had precincts report actual vote totals before, just the delegate counts.

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Smashingpmkns
02/04/20 12:13:16 AM
#154:


What a fucking shit show
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JBaLLEN66
02/04/20 12:15:15 AM
#155:


**** Iowa

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crazyman32
02/04/20 12:15:42 AM
#156:


The Democrat Iowa Caucus current status..

https://giphy.com/gifs/dumpster-fire-floating-853jNve3ljqrYrcSOK
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Broseph_Stalin
02/04/20 12:17:23 AM
#157:


Yeah if anyone's actually wondering why this is taking so long, it's because they made changes Bernie wanted lol

https://tinyurl.com/u283ja6

This year, theres a new wrinkle that could make the caucus even more chaotic. For the first time, the Iowa Democratic Party will report three sets of results. There is no guarantee that all three will show the same winner.

Q: Why are Democrats making this change?
A: The new rules were mandated by the DNC as part of a package of changes sought by Bernie Sanders following his loss to Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential primaries.

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ZannoL
02/04/20 12:18:05 AM
#158:


Broseph_Stalin posted...
Yeah if anyone's actually wondering why this is taking so long, it's because they made changes Bernie wanted lol

https://tinyurl.com/u283ja6

This year, theres a new wrinkle that could make the caucus even more chaotic. For the first time, the Iowa Democratic Party will report three sets of results. There is no guarantee that all three will show the same winner.

Q: Why are Democrats making this change?
A: The new rules were mandated by the DNC as part of a package of changes sought by Bernie Sanders following his loss to Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential primaries.

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Antifar
02/04/20 12:19:27 AM
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The rule changes seem separate from the broken app; people have had the numbers tallied up for hours at precinct sites, but they can't get through to the state party.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/finance/news/iowa-results-delayed-as-precincts-struggle-with-caucus-phone-app/ar-BBZCKFe
Four Democratic county chairs told Bloomberg News earlier in the day that some precinct-level officials told them that they had been unable to download or log in to the phone app.

We are experiencing some issues in terms of people being able to load and connect with the app for their precinct reporting, said Bret Nilles, chairman of the Linn County Democratic Party.

The party first used a phone application to report results in 2016, but before then, all results were submitted by phone.

A lot of us are going to be doing it on paper and calling it in, said Kelcey Brackett, the chairman of the Muscatine County Democratic Party.

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Broseph_Stalin
02/04/20 12:20:31 AM
#162:


Godnorgosh posted...
https://imgur.com/2F9od2Q

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SiO4
02/04/20 12:22:33 AM
#163:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk3RMiCyoak

Not that there is much to know
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Antifar
02/04/20 12:25:38 AM
#164:


https://twitter.com/politico/status/1224546251871543297

This ain't a rules problem.
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MrToothHasYou
02/04/20 12:25:52 AM
#165:


Pete just declared himself the winner? lmao i guess anything goes when the party won't release any numbers

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Smashingpmkns
02/04/20 12:26:51 AM
#166:


Damn if only there was another way to add up numbers
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Crazyman93
02/04/20 12:35:00 AM
#167:


MrToothHasYou posted...
Pete just declared himself the winner? lmao i guess anything goes when the party won't release any numbers

Everyone who's spoken has done that.
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MrToothHasYou
02/04/20 12:41:25 AM
#168:


Crazyman93 posted...
Everyone who's spoken has done that.
No they haven't.

Klobuchar said that her campaign "punched above it's weight."
Bernie said that he thought they were going to get good news about the results.
Warren didn't mention it at all.
I didn't watch Biden because LOL

Pete straight up said "We were victorious tonight."

With 0% precincts reporting.

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Smashingpmkns
02/04/20 12:41:51 AM
#169:


https://twitter.com/PeteButtigieg/status/1224563986353598465

Someone must have gave the rat a cookie.
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ZannoL
02/04/20 12:42:48 AM
#170:


Go Pete!
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darkprince45
02/04/20 12:43:20 AM
#171:


Pete is cool

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Garioshi
02/04/20 12:43:39 AM
#172:


We aren't even living in a democracy anymore.

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Paper_Okami
02/04/20 12:47:58 AM
#173:


motherfucker should go back to working at Chuck E cheese


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MarqueeSeries
02/04/20 12:48:48 AM
#174:


The future is now
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MrToothHasYou
02/04/20 12:49:24 AM
#175:


MSNBC reporting that the Iowa Party was on a conference call with all of the campaigns, and hung up on them with no explanation.

I can't tell what is real anymore.

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Butterfiles
02/04/20 12:51:57 AM
#177:


More like Iowa CIRCUS amirite up top!

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UnholyMudcrab
02/04/20 12:52:54 AM
#178:


Buttigieg making a big show of declaring victory while this clusterfuck is going on is not doing a whole lot to endear him to me, I gotta say.

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MrToothHasYou
02/04/20 12:53:46 AM
#179:


shockthemonkey posted...
One of the commentators on CNN is saying how Pete Buttigieg got screwed because he couldnt soak up his victory while also saying that there arent any results
The MSNBC commentator said "well, that certainly sounded like the speech of a victor!" with absolutely zero hint of irony

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Smashingpmkns
02/04/20 12:56:56 AM
#180:


https://twitter.com/DNC/status/1224456542478462977

3 years well spent
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iPhone_7
02/04/20 12:58:03 AM
#181:


Pete taking advantage of the moment of chaos.

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treewojima
02/04/20 12:58:58 AM
#182:


what on the actual fuck is going on over there? like seriously, how do you fuck everything up so badly?

oh yeah, the Democratic Party
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Jeff_Garcia7
02/04/20 12:59:02 AM
#183:


So the app was made by a firm called shadow and is connected with Pete. ofc
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SwordMaster13X
02/04/20 12:59:06 AM
#184:


Maybe Tom Perez should resign after this? What a mess

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Garioshi
02/04/20 1:00:18 AM
#186:


Jeff_Garcia7 posted...
So the app was made by a firm called shadow and is connected with Pete. ofc
said firm was also paid by the nevada and iowa democratic parties

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Smashingpmkns
02/04/20 1:02:14 AM
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Jeff_Garcia7
02/04/20 1:05:27 AM
#189:


No wonder Pete claimed victory. His app hacked him into first.
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KINDERFELD
02/04/20 1:05:38 AM
#190:


Damn, now results should come out sometime later today.

Smh.

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MrToothHasYou
02/04/20 1:06:01 AM
#191:


SwordMaster13X posted...
Maybe Tom Perez should resign after this? What a mess
I mean he does suck shit but this doesn't seem to be his fault, it's just ineptitude on the part of the state party, not the national party.

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SwordMaster13X
02/04/20 1:06:20 AM
#192:


shockthemonkey posted...
Its wicked funny to me to think about what would be different if only Pete Buttigieg had beat out Tom Perez as DNC chair.

i wonder what would have happened if Keith Ellison was the DNC chair now instead of Perez?


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treewojima
02/04/20 1:07:04 AM
#193:


shockthemonkey posted...
SwordMaster13X posted...
Maybe Tom Perez should resign after this? What a mess
Its wicked funny to me to think about what would be different if only Pete Buttigieg had beat out Tom Perez as DNC chair.

Announcer 1: "And the Iowa Caucus Heavyweight Champion is... wait, what's this? Democratic Party Chair Buttigieg is coming out into the ring!"
Announcer 2: "Holy shit, he just suplexed the ref and grabbed the belt! This is unbelievable!"
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SwordMaster13X
02/04/20 1:07:06 AM
#194:


MrToothHasYou posted...
I mean he does suck shit but this doesn't seem to be his fault, it's just ineptitude on the part of the state party, not the national party.

that could be it as well. Has Iowa ever been this bad before?

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CruelBuffalo
02/04/20 1:09:00 AM
#196:


So Pete conspired with an app company to mess up the results of a night he is rumored to have done well in order to delay the announcement and ruin the headlines of his win.

Yes. Logical.
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CruelBuffalo
02/04/20 1:10:40 AM
#198:


shockthemonkey posted...
One of the commentators on CNN is saying how Pete Buttigieg got screwed because he couldnt soak up his victory while also saying that there arent any results


The campaigns likely know the ballpark of how well they did.
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Broseph_Stalin
02/04/20 1:11:11 AM
#199:


SwordMaster13X posted...
that could be it as well. Has Iowa ever been this bad before?

See:

Broseph_Stalin posted...
Yeah if anyone's actually wondering why this is taking so long, it's because they made changes Bernie wanted lol

https://tinyurl.com/u283ja6

This year, theres a new wrinkle that could make the caucus even more chaotic. For the first time, the Iowa Democratic Party will report three sets of results. There is no guarantee that all three will show the same winner.

Q: Why are Democrats making this change?
A: The new rules were mandated by the DNC as part of a package of changes sought by Bernie Sanders following his loss to Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential primaries.

The DNC gave Bernie everything he wanted and now we have to listen to his loser cult claim this is happening because the votes being rigged.


See also:

https://twitter.com/tripgabriel/status/1224550589029326849
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MrToothHasYou
02/04/20 1:14:15 AM
#201:


SwordMaster13X posted...
that could be it as well. Has Iowa ever been this bad before?
No, but theyve also never reported actual vote totals before. In previous caucuses the precincts would just report the delegate count for each candidate. Much easier to report but obviously a LOT less transparent. Combine that with the fact that they had fewer staff on hand to take phone calls because they were counting on the app working to collect totals, and you get a huge fucking mess.

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