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Scotty_Rogers 02/03/20 11:56:14 PM #51:	LovingPacifist posted... I'm not saying that it's a retcon, I'm saying that it's an indisputable loss on Jonathan's end to anyone that tries to claim Jolyne's the biggest loser. No, because it is a retcon that comes long after Part 1 ended. In Part 1 itself, Jonathan and Dio's fight is only a draw. Retcons made after the fact are irrelevant. --- RIP MITCH. <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:933901767] in Stone Ocea... [t:78380089]...</cite> <quote>LovingPacifist posted... </cite> <quote>I'm not saying that it's a retcon, I'm saying that it's an indisputable loss on Jonathan's end to anyone that tries to claim Jolyne's the biggest loser.</quote> No, because it is a retcon that comes long after Part 1 ended. In Part 1 itself, Jonathan and Dio's fight is only a draw. Retcons made after the fact are irrelevant. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chicken 02/03/20 11:57:39 PM #52:	One could argue their fight never ended since Jonathans body was still fighting Dios control during part 3. --- May contain bones https://youtu.be/jGbI0P4hh3o <cite>Chicken posted [p:933901814] in Stone Ocea... [t:78380089]...</cite> <quote>One could argue their fight never ended since Jonathans body was still fighting Dios control during part 3. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LovingPacifist 02/04/20 12:00:57 AM #53:	^ See, I told you there would be someone dumb enough to try to argue that Jonathan didn't lose, and I was right. To the guy above me, he got decapitated on his honeymoon. He lost and you suck at arguing. --- Peace....love....and Understanding - The Three Fundamental Elements of Pacifism. <cite>LovingPacifist posted [p:933901910] in Stone Ocea... [t:78380089]...</cite> <quote>^ See, I told you there would be someone dumb enough to try to argue that Jonathan didn't lose, and I was right. To the guy above me, he got decapitated on his honeymoon. He lost and you suck at arguing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
apolloooo 02/04/20 12:05:14 AM #54:	https://i.imgur.com/8zdndNB.jpg --- http://i.imgtc.com/iJyp6bF.png http://i.imgtc.com/ZBw36Qh.png Thanks for the peeps that made the pics <3 if i make typos it means i am on phone <cite>apolloooo posted [p:933902041] in Stone Ocea... [t:78380089]...</cite> <quote>https://i.imgur.com/8zdndNB.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LovingPacifist 02/04/20 12:06:17 AM #55:	Oh, I understand now. I put Scotty on ignore because he insists on replying to everything, is an obsessive Jo Jo's fan that only watches it to get upset, and is easily one of the dumbest users on the GFAQs boards. He's not a troll, just super slow in the head, pretty much every community he attempts to be a part of basically ignores him and won't have a legitimate conversation with him because there's no point. On top of that, he doesn't understand retcons or thematic story telling vs realistic story telling. I would suggest that you do the same and put him on ignore. He doesn't add anything to any type of conversation, and he's also an outspoken racist. Sorry for the confusion. I didn't realize he was posting here. --- Peace....love....and Understanding - The Three Fundamental Elements of Pacifism. <cite>LovingPacifist posted [p:933902081] in Stone Ocea... [t:78380089]...</cite> <quote>Oh, I understand now. I put Scotty on ignore because he insists on replying to everything, is an obsessive Jo Jo's fan that only watches it to get upset, and is easily one of the dumbest users on the GFAQs boards. He's not a troll, just super slow in the head, pretty much every community he attempts to be a part of basically ignores him and won't have a legitimate conversation with him because there's no point. On top of that, he doesn't understand retcons or thematic story telling vs realistic story telling. I would suggest that you do the same and put him on ignore. He doesn't add anything to any type of conversation, and he's also an outspoken racist. Sorry for the confusion. I didn't realize he was posting here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 02/04/20 12:06:27 AM #56:	LovingPacifist posted... ^ See, I told you there would be someone dumb enough to try to argue that Jonathan didn't lose, and I was right. To the guy above me, he got decapitated on his honeymoon. He lost and you suck at arguing. As far as Part 1's story went, Dio also lost because Jonathan trapped him. So it was a draw. --- RIP MITCH. <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:933902091] in Stone Ocea... [t:78380089]...</cite> <quote>LovingPacifist posted... </cite> <quote>^ See, I told you there would be someone dumb enough to try to argue that Jonathan didn't lose, and I was right. To the guy above me, he got decapitated on his honeymoon. He lost and you suck at arguing.</quote> As far as Part 1's story went, Dio also lost because Jonathan trapped him. So it was a draw. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pikachupwnage 02/04/20 12:10:54 AM #57:	Scotty_Rogers posted... As far as Part 1's story went, Dio also lost because Jonathan trapped him. So it was a draw. It was a Pyrric victory for Dio. --- My Mario Maker 2 Maker ID is J2K-RFD-K4G Even In sigs FOE! http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/665/328/d75.gif <cite>pikachupwnage posted [p:933902242] in Stone Ocea... [t:78380089]...</cite> <quote>Scotty_Rogers posted... </cite> <quote>As far as Part 1's story went, Dio also lost because Jonathan trapped him. So it was a draw.</quote> It was a Pyrric victory for Dio. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 02/04/20 12:18:38 AM #58:	pikachupwnage posted... It was a Pyrric victory for Dio. Naw, draw. Dio killed Jonathan, but Jonathan still thrawted Dio's plan to take over his body before Part 3 retconned it. --- RIP MITCH. <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:933902544] in Stone Ocea... [t:78380089]...</cite> <quote>pikachupwnage posted... </cite> <quote>It was a Pyrric victory for Dio.</quote> Naw, draw. Dio killed Jonathan, but Jonathan still thrawted Dio's plan to take over his body before Part 3 retconned it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 02/04/20 12:36:59 AM #59:	LovingPacifist posted... You know, I was going to ignore his dumbass response just like I ignored the guy that insulted Golden Wind, but did either of you two watch the first part of Jo Jo's? Neither one of you are right, about anything you're saying. Araki pretty much half the time doesn't even believe in main characters. Hayato had as much to do with Kira's demise as Josuke. The whole theme of his story telling model is that there is no "main character" of life. We're all in the world together, and the main protagonists only overcome the villains by acting together. EVERY significant battle since BT reflects this. What the heck does this have to do with Jolyne being the only JoJo to outright lose? Jonathan lost, but he at least pulled Dio down with him and stalled him for the next 50 or whatever years. When Jolyne lost, the villain was still in the middle of their grand plan and it was all on Emporio to make sure he didnt succeed. Joseph would have lost, but he didnt. Josuke didnt get the kill shot, but he certainly didnt lose: Also why are you so salty and hostile in a thread about a Japanese cartoon lol --- It ok Hameru. Rabu. <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:933903128] in Stone Ocea... [t:78380089]...</cite> <quote>LovingPacifist posted... </cite> <quote>You know, I was going to ignore his dumbass response just like I ignored the guy that insulted Golden Wind, but did either of you two watch the first part of Jo Jo's? Neither one of you are right, about anything you're saying. Araki pretty much half the time doesn't even believe in main characters. Hayato had as much to do with Kira's demise as Josuke. The whole theme of his story telling model is that there is no "main character" of life. We're all in the world together, and the main protagonists only overcome the villains by acting together. EVERY significant battle since BT reflects this.</quote> What the heck does this have to do with Jolyne being the only JoJo to outright lose? Jonathan lost, but he at least pulled Dio down with him and stalled him for the next 50 or whatever years. When Jolyne lost, the villain was still in the middle of their grand plan and it was all on Emporio to make sure he didnt succeed. Joseph would have lost, but he didnt. Josuke didnt get the kill shot, but he certainly didnt lose: Also why are you so salty and hostile in a thread about a Japanese cartoon lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chicken 02/04/20 1:24:41 AM #60:	LovingPacifist posted... ^ See, I told you there would be someone dumb enough to try to argue that Jonathan didn't lose, and I was right. To the guy above me, he got decapitated on his honeymoon. He lost and you suck at arguing. Sorry but Jonathan ultimately lost to Jotaro because the side of his body still not under Dios control was severely damaged by Star Platinum. --- May contain bones https://youtu.be/jGbI0P4hh3o <cite>Chicken posted [p:933904561] in Stone Ocea... [t:78380089]...</cite> <quote>LovingPacifist posted... </cite> <quote>^ See, I told you there would be someone dumb enough to try to argue that Jonathan didn't lose, and I was right. To the guy above me, he got decapitated on his honeymoon. He lost and you suck at arguing.</quote> Sorry but Jonathan ultimately lost to Jotaro because the side of his body still not under Dios control was severely damaged by Star Platinum. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reis 02/04/20 1:27:07 AM #61:	someone plz acknowledge my post <cite>Reis posted [p:933904634] in Stone Ocea... [t:78380089]...</cite> <quote>someone plz acknowledge my post </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 02/04/20 1:30:05 AM #62:	Reis posted... someone plz acknowledge my post Something something Persona --- It ok Hameru. Rabu. <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:933904728] in Stone Ocea... [t:78380089]...</cite> <quote>Reis posted... </cite> <quote>someone plz acknowledge my post</quote> Something something Persona </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 02/04/20 2:14:02 AM #63:	~~Jonathan drew with Dio in Part 1.~~ ~~Joseph won in Part 2.~~ ~~Jotaro won in Part 3.~~ It can be said Josuke lost in Part 4; Kira was about to kill him and he needed to be saved by Okuyasu. Afterwards, Josuke does nothing in this fight and it's ultimately Jotaro who defeats Kira in the end. Still, at least Josuke wasn't flat out killed like Jolyne was. ~~Giorno won in Part 5.~~ ~~Jolyne is the only Jojo to not only die, but flat out lose her final fight.~~ --- RIP MITCH. <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:933905847] in Stone Ocea... [t:78380089]...</cite> <quote>Jonathan drew with Dio in Part 1. Joseph won in Part 2. Jotaro won in Part 3. It can be said Josuke lost in Part 4; Kira was about to kill him and he needed to be saved by Okuyasu. Afterwards, Josuke does nothing in this fight and it's ultimately Jotaro who defeats Kira in the end. Still, at least Josuke wasn't flat out killed like Jolyne was. Giorno won in Part 5. Jolyne is the only Jojo to not only die, but flat out lose her final fight. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MorganTJ 02/04/20 2:21:37 AM #64:	I mean, in SBR ~~Johnny also loses his final fight against Alternate Diego~~. <cite>MorganTJ posted [p:933906051] in Stone Ocea... [t:78380089]...</cite> <quote>I mean, in SBR Johnny also loses his final fight against Alternate Diego. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 02/04/20 2:24:40 AM #65:	MorganTJ posted... I mean, in SBR ~~Johnny also loses his final fight against Alternate Diego~~. ~~Diego was postgame content. Also, Johnny didnt get ganked and die.~~ ~~Until he ganked himself. RIP~~ --- It ok Hameru. Rabu. <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:933906116] in Stone Ocea... [t:78380089]...</cite> <quote>MorganTJ posted... </cite> <quote>I mean, in SBR Johnny also loses his final fight against Alternate Diego.</quote> Diego was postgame content. Also, Johnny didnt get ganked and die. Until he ganked himself. RIP </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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