Current Events > Tesla stock has been going on a crazy run in recent weeks

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CableZL
02/03/20 10:08:38 AM
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I bought in at 403 and 537 a few weeks ago and it's above 700 now

I wonder how much further it'll go

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emblem boy
02/03/20 12:56:15 PM
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People are fucking making bank on Tesla options right now.

Makes no fucking sense and I hate myself for sleeping on it
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spudger
02/03/20 12:56:54 PM
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last week they announced they are the most profitable car mfg in the world

im sure that has something to do with it
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emblem boy
02/03/20 12:58:34 PM
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Ex-Kefiroth posted...
the bubble's gonna pop just like bitcoin did in late 2017


People have been saying this shit for years now
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whitelytning
02/03/20 1:34:38 PM
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An analyst has it going to $7k.

That is stupid.

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Damn_Underscore
02/03/20 1:38:06 PM
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Hairistotle posted...
congrats to rich folks


Not really, for the last 6 years Tesla stock was going up and down between $200-$300 or so.

Then it just shot up in the last two months.
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CableZL
02/03/20 4:48:09 PM
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Abiz_
02/03/20 4:53:30 PM
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Did they have any success with their low orbiting satellites? I remember Musk said they were going to put 1000s of them up for internet.
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voldothegr8
02/03/20 4:55:08 PM
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Short selling has a high risk/reward ratio: It can offer big profits, but losses can mount quickly and infinitely.
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Jabodie
02/03/20 4:55:37 PM
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Anybody know how much their market cap compares to actual profits/assets per share? I'm sure it's pretty high, but I'm curious if it's "this is obviously going to crash" high.

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Jabodie
02/03/20 4:56:32 PM
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I guess this is also a good lesson on how risky derivatives are lol.

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CableZL
02/03/20 5:02:42 PM
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Abiz_ posted...
Did they have any success with their low orbiting satellites? I remember Musk said they were going to put 1000s of them up for internet.
They launched 60 more last week, I believe

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CableZL
02/03/20 5:03:48 PM
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Jabodie posted...
Anybody know how much their market cap compares to actual profits/assets per share? I'm sure it's pretty high, but I'm curious if it's "this is obviously going to crash" high.
How do you find this out? Etrade says their market cap is 140.6 billion

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Jabodie
02/03/20 5:35:06 PM
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CableZL posted...
How do you find this out? Etrade says their market cap is 140.6 billion
https://www.investing.com/equities/tesla-motors-ratios

This seems to have all the basic ratios, but for why the price is going up you'll need to see the most recent financials. These cover performance over the past five years, which is not nearly as useful with a company like Tesla. For what's going on you just need to look at their most recent financials:

https://ir.tesla.com/static-files/b3cf7f5e-546a-4a65-9888-c928b914b529?mod=article_inline&mod=article_inline

Page 19 shows why the stock shot up. There has been mediocre performance since the start of the company before the Model 3, which seems to have shown consistent sales for the past year. You can see that cash flows are much improved, so it looks like the company is actually making money now. And now analysts seem to have changed their value on Tesla in response, and likely due to an expectation of increased earnings as the brand expands. So where the stock before was a promise to make money, the stock is now a promise to make money and people are more confident that it will actually happen.

You'll notice too that net income is still in the negative in some recent quarters though, which has to do with depreciation and amortization (accounting concepts that have to do with loss of value of certain assets and spreading certain types of expenses over several years/quarters). However, if cash flows stay high and positive net income will eventually come out positive.

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Jabodie
02/03/20 5:45:07 PM
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In terms of "overpriced" the analysis isn't so simple because current prices for stocks are based on how much people think the stocks will make in the future, which is assessed by financial analysts plus some speculative interest with people buying into the brand/hype. So calculating a price based on recent cash flows would be stupid since analysts seem to expect profits to explode. So you'd need to read up on what analysts project for the company and assess how likely their analyses are correct to make a really informed call, which is not such a trivial thing.

So if the money expected doesn't come through the price will go down. Will that happen? That's your judgement call.

This is why when video game company stocks report earnings or revenues below expectations (but still really high), their stock drops. Stocks are generally priced for how investors expect companies to do in the near future, so when the present shows less earnings than analysts predicted, stock prices drop to compensate for new forecasts. This basic concept is lost on a lot of gaming pundits who comment on video game company stock prices clearly knowing nothing about how the stock market actually works.

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Krojen
02/03/20 6:26:42 PM
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I bought a few hundred shares between $180-220 and am now financially independent. lol at all the boomer slurpers saying it was going to $0 last summer.

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Zack_Attackv1
02/03/20 6:32:09 PM
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*coughing fit of laughter*
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Awesome
02/03/20 6:35:46 PM
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enjoy the market while you can, you have three weeks

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emblem boy
02/04/20 7:32:08 AM
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It's at fucking 874 premarket.
1k by end of the week is actually possible
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emblem boy
02/04/20 7:33:24 AM
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@Krojen

Bro, you've gotta be on cloud 9 right now

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Rika_Furude
02/04/20 7:56:28 AM
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hope tesla does well. i want cheaper and better teslas to be released so i can buy one

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Krojen
02/04/20 10:39:28 AM
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emblem boy posted...
@Krojen

Bro, you've gotta be on cloud 9 right now
Cloud 69! This must be how the people that held bitcoin before it was cool felt.

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emblem boy
02/04/20 11:24:53 AM
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Coke and hookers?
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CableZL
02/04/20 11:28:37 AM
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Trumpo
02/04/20 11:59:40 AM
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Should have bought before it hit 420 last year
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darkphoenix181
02/04/20 12:17:39 PM
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What broker do you guys use?
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Tired-Insomniac
02/04/20 12:20:51 PM
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emblem boy posted...
People are fucking making bank on Tesla options right now.

Makes no fucking sense and I hate myself for sleeping on it

This

I was gonna buy a bunch when it was in the 200s but decided against it

Fuck you, Past Me.

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emblem boy
02/04/20 12:51:46 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
What broker do you guys use?


For options, I'm cheap and use Robinhood.
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CableZL
02/04/20 12:53:42 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
What broker do you guys use?
I'm on etrade

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AngelsNAirwav3s
02/04/20 2:24:22 PM
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Tesla is almost up 100% in 5 days... what the hell lol

Time to short the hell out of it?

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emblem boy
02/04/20 3:31:10 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Tesla is almost up 100% in 5 days... what the hell lol

Time to short the hell out of it?


Possible 1k by end of day.

It makes no damn sense
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twitterfriends
02/04/20 3:34:14 PM
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Whats Teslas market cap versus the other big autos? I hope one day theyre the top dog

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ThyCorndog
02/04/20 3:37:59 PM
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oh dang. good thing I bought some shares a while back. when do we sell bois? I've never sold stocks before

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darkphoenix181
02/04/20 3:40:35 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
oh dang. good thing I bought some shares a while back. when do we sell bois? I've never sold stocks before

When selling lets you be financilly free.
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AngelsNAirwav3s
02/04/20 3:54:49 PM
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twitterfriends posted...
Whats Teslas market cap versus the other big autos? I hope one day theyre the top dog

Tesla already dwarfs Ford and GM, Toyota is bigger though

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twitterfriends
02/04/20 9:06:42 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Tesla already dwarfs Ford and GM, Toyota is bigger though


Aww hell yeah, that's pretty crazy consider Ford and GM got bailed out.

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inloveanddeath0
02/04/20 9:07:25 PM
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Saw a Reddit post where a guy made 4million in a day

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CableZL
02/04/20 9:23:00 PM
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inloveanddeath0 posted...
Saw a Reddit post where a guy made 4million in a day

That's crazy

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darkphoenix181
02/05/20 2:19:03 AM
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inloveanddeath0 posted...
Saw a Reddit post where a guy made 4million in a day

This implies he bought like 4 mil in stocks.
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Solid Snake07
02/05/20 2:26:00 AM
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It's waaaay overpriced right now. I'm not saying fair value won't catch up but tesla is valued where it should be after 5-10 very good years at this point.

Hold if you want, but I implore you to definitely not buy here

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Solid Snake07
02/05/20 2:27:16 AM
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Awesome posted...
enjoy the market while you can, you have three weeks


.......And what happens in 3 weeks?

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CableZL
02/05/20 5:34:26 AM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
This implies he bought like 4 mil in stocks.
No, it implies he bought a bunch of stock when it was cheap and he made $4 million in a day because of the massive increase in the stock price.

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SocksForWok999
02/05/20 6:38:15 AM
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Wish I had bought some ugh

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emblem boy
02/05/20 8:33:16 AM
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Lol no. He was playing options. He spent way less than 4 mil.
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emblem boy
02/05/20 8:34:28 AM
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For example, https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/ez03u1/_/
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emblem boy
02/05/20 8:35:26 AM
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Or this

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Horrible summary from me but, he bought 4 contracts that were each worth $39.25. look up options contracts. The value of that contract cost him 27k total. The contracts were pretty much saying that Tesla would get to a price of $700. The fucking blew past that.

The value of the contract rose to 170.25 each because the Tesla stock price increased so much.

Purchase was (31.25*100)*(7)

Sold it for (170.25*100)*7

It's practically gambling with the stock market, so I wouldn't advice it... But yolo right. Scared money don't make big money
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