Current Events > Montana legislator says Constitution says it's okay to shoot socialists

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ELENA A Billings Republican legislator said Saturday he believes the U.S. Constitution calls for the shooting or jailing of those who identify as socialists.

State Rep. Rodney Garcia, from House District 52 on the South Side, first made a statement in the form of an unprompted question at a state party gathering in Helena Friday meant to kick off election season and offer training for party members and candidates.

In his question after a speech by former Secretary of the Interior Ryan Zinke, who was Montanas representative in the U.S. House for two years, Garcia said he was concerned about socialists entering our government and socialists everywhere in Billings, before saying the Constitution says to either shoot socialists or put them in jail.

The Montana Republican Party later condemned Garcia's remarks.

In this year's presidential election, President Donald Trump has often called Democrats "radical socialists" in an attempt to use the term socialism, which is defined as theories about collective or government ownership and operation of the means of production and distribution, as a boogeyman-like phrase to criticize proposals from Democrats where the federal government would play a larger role in areas like health care or education.

All but one of the Democratic Party candidates have repeatedly explained they are not socialists, while Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders calls himself a democratic socialist.

After Zinke responded with a non sequitur You know, Montanas a great state, Garcia said back: We have to do something.

Zinkes answer to Garcia didnt engage in Garcia's statement and pivoted to talk about the former Secretary's effort to open satellite offices of the Interior department in the western part of the U.S.

On Saturday, a reporter asked Garcia to clarify his remarks.

So actually in the Constitution of the United States (if) they are found guilty of being a socialist member you either go to prison or are shot, Garcia said.

Garcia could not to point to where in the Constitution it says socialists could be shot or jailed.

Asked to clarify if he thought it was fair to shoot or jail a socialist, including those who live in Montana, Garcia said yes.

Theyre enemies of the free state, Garcia said. What do we do with our enemies in war? In Vietnam, (Afghanistan), all those. What did we do?

Asked if that was an appropriate response to his opponent from the last election cycle, Garcia said according to the Constitution, Im telling you.

I agree with my Constitution, Garcia said. Thats what makes us free. Were not a democracy, were a Republic Constitution.

In 2018 Garcia ran against Amelia Marquez for the House District 52 seat in Billings.

He should try changing their minds via rational discourse instead of resorting to violence, imo.
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This is going to be normal behavior for Republicans in the future.

Antifar posted...

He should try changing their minds via rational discourse

lol

Oh hey another Republican saying the things you're not supposed to say out loud
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Antifar posted...

Were not a democracy, were a Republic Constitution.

I don't think he knows what any of these words mean.

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__aCEr__ posted...

I don't think he knows what any of these words mean.

In his mind= Republicans should be the only party allowed to every run in any election

The Republican Party is a terrorist organization
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Sounds like more of that legendary Republican civility I keep hearing about.
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I don't see the big deal? This has been the NRA's motto for quite a while.

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So socialist is Republican code for Democrat I assume?

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Does he still hold that seat? He shouldn't.

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Ex-Kefiroth posted...

Not just Democrat, but anyone who doesn't worship Trump

Evidenced by all the Republicans turning on Bolton.

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99% of republicans want to murder their political opponents, just only this guy and Trump is dumb enough to say so.
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Bump
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Wow! The founders were so good they added socialism into the Constitution before it was even a movement. Amazing!
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Jail him for inciting violence!

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cmiller4642 posted...

This is going to be normal behavior for Republicans in the future.

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Were not a democracy, were a Republic Constitution.

a what?

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That guy is trash, just like donald trump
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cmiller4642 posted...

This is going to be normal behavior for Republicans in the future.

And eventually the dipshit militia LARPers are going to start acting on it

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TheBlueMonk_ posted...

a what?

this is the go-to line for people who conveniently ignore we, uh, democratically elect 99.9% of our leaders

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How do guys like this gain power? Is it big fish in a small pond scenario? Are they born into money?

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Darmik posted...

How do guys like this gain power? Is it big fish in a small pond scenario? Are they born into money?

I would imagine that when it comes to state-level elections outside of the Governor, a lot of the constituency is probably just picking a name that they saw a lot of signs for.

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The good news is if the Dems nominate Biden this guy will turn normal again

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Doom_Art posted...

The good news is if the Dems nominate Biden this guy will turn normal again

I snorted

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Garcia could not to point to where in the Constitution it says socialists could be shot or jailed.

"Where does the Constitution say this?"

"Uhh, somewhere in the back"

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>Democrats

>Socialists

Pick one

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Godnorgosh posted...

Reminder that socialists and anarchists were among the first to be repressed by the Nazis

Im being pedantic but a simpler reminder is that Nazi stands for National Socialist, which if you watch that Joe Rogan with Daryl Davis, the black man that helped hundreds of KKK, Neo-Nazi, and just in general bigoted people strip their robes(its a hell of a story and a hell of a life and commitment. The man is one of the last true American heroes) and stop identifying with the movement.

Here is another piece of info Daryl provided when Joe and him started talking about Charolettesville, and that did yall know white supremacy has taken many forms and it keeps rebranding itself? For now its alt-right, but back in the day it started as white supremecist, then they choose White Separatist, then when that didnt work for long enough they again went to White Nationalist. As you notice the words are getting less and less distinct and more and ambiguous to try and draw in more members.

but now were at Alt-Right. But Im with Christopher Titus and Dave Chapelle on this one: yall are just rebranded Nazis to make themselves more palletteable to everyone else. But just call yourselves Nazis. Because thats what those people are: Freaking actual nazis pretending theyre not.

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RyuVegas posted...

Im being pedantic but a simpler reminder is that Nazi stands for National Socialist, which if you watch that Joe Rogan with Daryl Davis, the black man that helped hundreds of KKK, Neo-Nazi, and just in general bigoted people strip their robes(its a hell of a story and a hell of a life and commitment. The man is one of the last true American heroes) and stop identifying with the movement.

You're not being pedantic, you're being dishonest.

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Garcia could not to point to where in the Constitution it says socialists could be shot or jailed.

Asked to clarify if he thought it was fair to shoot or jail a socialist, including those who live in Montana, Garcia said yes.

Theyre enemies of the free state, Garcia said. What do we do with our enemies in war? In Vietnam, (Afghanistan), all those. What did we do?

"Were not a democracy, were a Republic Constitution.

There's being a clod, and there's being... whatever this is.

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Antifar posted...

https://bit.ly/37TOVbx

He should try changing their minds via rational discourse instead of resorting to violence, imo.

Also libs: Punch people for saying racial slurs instead of using rational discourse!

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monkeysRfunny posted...

Also libs: Punch people for saying racial slurs instead of using rational discourse!

When they're right, they're right
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monkeysRfunny posted...

Also libs: Punch people for saying racial slurs instead of using rational discourse!

Punching racists being compared to shooting people who want to help other people.

Probably the dumbest whataboutism you could have made.

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Im just saying that you guys need to pick a stance instead of flip flopping

Also, doesnt it seem more logical to punch someone whos trying to get someone whos endorsing shooting people over someone whos saying an offensive word?

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monkeysRfunny posted...

Im just saying that you guys need to pick a stance instead of flip flopping

So why aren't you sticking with your fellow conservatives?

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Also implying that reasoning with a political other is the equivalent of reasoning with a white supremacist.

Yikes.

I don't like that punching nazis is considered okay, but I have no clue how making this comparison does not at least to some extent just boil down to a defense of nazis/racists
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Webmaster4531 posted...

So why aren't you sticking with your fellow conservatives?

Because I know that hurting people is wrong. Why are you sticking with your fellow liberals when theyre suggesting talking things out with someone who wants to talk it out with a potential killer but saying its ok to punch a drunk racist?

PS
My opinion is simply that its wrong to harm people who arent posing a threat to anyone. A guy could call me every dirty name in the book but Im not going to resort to violence as long as hes keeping the assault verbal.

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FursonaNonGrata posted...

eventually the dipshit militia LARPers are going to start acting on it

we already have those. a few fuckers who tried to takeover a refuge and another guy who's trying to split washington in half.
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monkeysRfunny posted...

Because I know that hurting people is wrong. Why are you sticking with your fellow liberals when theyre suggesting talking things out with someone who wants to talk it out with a potential killer but saying its ok to punch a drunk racist?

PS
My opinion is simply that its wrong to harm people who arent posing a threat to anyone. A guy could call me every dirty name in the book but Im not going to resort to violence as long as hes keeping the assault verbal.

So you admit to flip flopping?

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Antifar posted...

He should try changing their minds via rational discourse instead of resorting to violence, imo.

That's not how my state works.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/24/greg-gianforte-bodyslams-reporter-ben-jacobs-montana

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It's 2020; nobody's awarding any points for internal consistency.
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Antifar posted...

He should try changing their minds via rational discourse instead of resorting to violence, imo.

I dont know about that. CE is the same place where people say not only is it Ok to commit public violence on anyone we think is a Nazi, but that it should also be the preferred course of action. Maybe theyre right. Commies and socialists have also done horrible things like killing even more people, so a punch in the mouth might be the least they deserve, as well.

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violence should never be solved with violence

as righteous capitalists we should always take the high ground
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That constitutional citation is as legitimate as the Bible passage in my sig.

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Webmaster4531 posted...

So you admit to flip flopping?

I like this deflection. We went from the point that libs have double standards to this.

But no, I don't. I would talk with anyone who's not immediately threatening physical harm. If you think this guy is going to just whip out a gun and start shooting up the crowd, then... I don't know what to say. You guys just swing away at someone who says a bad word because talk shit get hit. Oh wait but you'll talk to this guy first.

DeadBankerDream posted...

Also implying that reasoning with a political other is the equivalent of reasoning with a white supremacist.

Yikes.

I don't like that punching nazis is considered okay, but I have no clue how making this comparison does not at least to some extent just boil down to a defense of nazis/racists

And this. I guess no one should reason with Trump since so many people here consider him a white supremacist? Just punch old Donny in the face and it's justified?

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