Current Events > Blacks are one of the most homophobic goups in America

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https://www.redandblack.com/opinion/opinion-recognize-homophobia-exists-in-the-black-community/article_565f64d0-f8ff-11e8-8560-83dd77dc6fb0.html

Being black is something you can't escape. You go out into the world and they see you as that. My sexuality is something that is so fundamental to who I am. Its something I cant get rid of. Its an intersectionality that is really hard to navigate and that has affected my life in real ways. Homophobia in the black community is rampant.

A nine year old boy felt so down and dark that he had to leave. He had to hang himself. Thats what people dont understand. Thats what homophobia does. It kills you slowly over time. Even as a young child and we dont all make it.

To simultaneously be in a community but know that community doesnt accept you fully is like splitting yourself. You dont feel like you can authentically be yourself. Youre not respected and you are not treated fairly. For whatever reason, who you love and what you do in the bedroom matters to people even if its not with them. The best thing to compare it to is racism. Its an ism.

According to a report from the University of Pennsylvania, there are only 21 out of the 105 Historically Black Colleges and Universities in the U.S. that have LGBTQ organizations on campus. Institutions that are fundamentally built under social justice and activism are not inclusive of all the identities within the black community.

Groups that are highly religious tend to be

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ZannoL posted...

According to a report from the University of Pennsylvania, there are only 21 out of the 105 Historically Black Colleges and Universities in the U.S. that have LGBTQ organizations on campus.

i dont see a problem with this unless they're arent being allowed by the schools.

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What a loaded poll lmao shut the fuck up

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CasualGuy posted...

Groups that are highly religious tend to be

Even non-religious black people are really homophobic.

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Garioshi posted...

What a loaded poll lmao

And then when this topic inevitably gets deleted, TC is gonna whine about being silenced just like every other shitposter on this board

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CasualGuy posted...

Groups that are highly religious tend to be

Yup. Because of their history a lot of blacks turned to god and the church. Those served as a respite from slavery.

That's why you have so many religious, homophobic black people.

Uh... Yea?

I see it all the time in person. I hear it all the time in person. I grew up hearing that shit for 33 years.

I still blame this on the obsession with religion.... Same religion that is very problematic in of itself for several reasons but we'll have that talk later.

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I love how some people are crying about this topic being unfair.

Grow up. We're allowed to have discussions and talk about taboo subjects. If you're that fragile then leave the topic. No one is forcing you to come in here.

I will not believe that black people are more homophobic than the general population until I see some major large-scale study that says they are.

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Sada_Pop posted...

Uh... Yea?

I see it all the time in person. I hear it all the time in person. I grew up hearing that shit for 33 years.

I still blame this on the obsession with religion.... Same religion that is very problematic in of itself for several reasons but we'll have that talk later.

You're not wrong.

So is this a poll thats a good one or one thats full of shit? I can already guess which one, but lets see

ahhh I was right.

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Yeah, as a black person, I'd say this isn't too far from the truth. Black people by and large are extremely religious for reasons I don't really understand.

I mean, I get the history of how that happened, historically, but how it continues... I dunno

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ZannoL posted...

I love how some people are crying about this topic being unfair.

Grow up. We're allowed to have discussions and talk about taboo subjects. If you're that fragile then leave the topic. No one is forcing you to come in here.

Nah I'm just here to catch the lore so i can see you bitch about losing internet karma in an hour or so from now

If you want a legit discussion, try linking to an article that actually facilitates that discussion because with the topic title, poll choices, and rando article you're kinda all over the place

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CableZL posted...

Yeah, as a black person, I'd say this isn't too far from the truth. Black people by and large are extremely religious for reasons I don't really understand.

I mean, I get the history of how that happened, historically, but how it continues... I dunno

I think it's weird. You would think they would understand that someone hating someone for being black and someone hating someone for being gay are not all that different.

Imagine if they worked together with gays instead of condemning them?

MacadamianNut3 posted...

Nah I'm just here to catch the lore so i can see you bitch about losing internet karma in an hour or so from now

Go ahead and mark me. Continue to cry and complain because reality hurts you. I'm sorry you're that fragile.

The majority of people have voted that blacks are homophobic. And there are black people here who attest to that.

This topic was made out of respect for gays.

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ZannoL posted...

The majority of people have voted that blacks are homophobic.

Yes, because both of your poll options say that "blacks" are homophobic.

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It goes against our species nature naturally.

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ZannoL posted...

Go ahead and mark me. Continue to cry and complain because reality hurts you. I'm sorry you're that fragile.

I don't mark topics. I also don't see how this topic would hurt me when views about gay people from the black church (specifically southern baptists) is one reason why I'm not religious anymore, same with a ton of other black millennials because this is all old news and believe it or not, you're not being provocative or clever with a halfassed topic like this

ZannoL posted...

And there are black people here who attest to that.

wow o rly news to me

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Member when every other rap song contained no homo ?

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Garioshi posted...

Yes, because both of your poll options say that "blacks" are homophobic.

Because a huge majority are. I think it's common sense by now. It's just taboo to bring up.

About the poll options, you would think people would be voting for the second option if that's the case. Instead the majority of people here think blacks should be held accountable.

Lordgold666 posted...

Member when every other rap song contained no homo ?

Yup.

And a lot of gay men are racist. Go figure.

There's a lot of homoeroticism among white supremacists. Imagery of shirtless aryan men for example

As a black, gay male, I will say that life can be harder on you when you fall into all the same categories as me. I dont think that they are homophobic, but have to act that way because of who they are and the people around them. If you arent showing hate towards them, people will usually automatically assume youre gay. Which is not what they want. And even the gay ones have to act like that, but are on the DL. So, you may think someones homophobic, but they are really a DL gay guy who acts that way to hide it. And people dont realize that. So, I agree with what averagejoel said:

averagejoel posted...

I will not believe that black people are more homophobic than the general population until I see some major large-scale study that says they are.

Also:

Garioshi posted...

Yes, because both of your poll options say that "blacks" are homophobic.

I agree with this, as well...

In conclusion, as a black, gay male, I dont think blacks are the most homophobic groups out there. I think thats just what people see based on how they have to act...
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Black folk are homophobic for the same reason everyone else is (if y'all find me a group of people who largely aren't homophobic I will transfer you $100) hyper masculinity/gender roles, religion and living in Conservative subcultures that view the general culture of gays as immoral and a threat to the traditional role of the family.
that said there has been a marked backlash against homophobia in Black sub communities especially among younger generations over the last decade and some change from my observances.

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Interesting read:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/6922351_Homophobia_hypermasculinity_and_the_US_Black_Church

Black churches in the USA constitute a significant source of the homophobia that pervades black communities. This theologically-driven homophobia is reinforced by the anti-homosexual rhetoric of black nationalism. Drawing on a variety of sources, this paper discusses the sources of homophobia within black communities, and its impact upon self-esteem, social relationships and physical health. Religion-based homophobia and black nationalism point to wider structures which have influenced their emergence, including racism, patriarchy and capitalism. It is vital for US black churches and communities to understand and transcend their longstanding resistance to openly addressing complex, painful issues of sexuality and embrace healthier definitions of black manhood.

2005 paper huh

Someone's a bit slow on the uptake

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MacadamianNut3 posted...

2005 paper huh

Someone's a bit slow on the uptake

he ain't even trying hard like at all lol

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ZannoL posted...

Because a huge majority are. I think it's common sense by now. It's just taboo to bring up.

About the poll options, you would think people would be voting for the second option if that's the case. Instead the majority of people here think blacks should be held accountable.

We are fucking held accountable for every got damn thing. Even for shit we didn't do

But lets take a look at some polls and not anecdotal evidence.

https://thinkprogress.org/new-survey-debunks-the-myth-of-black-homophobia-e5066ae38aa8/

PRRIs massive survey focused on three general questions: support for marriage equality, support for LGBT nondiscrimination protections, and support for religious refusal exemptions allowing businesses to refuse service to LGBT people based on their religious beliefs.
Support for marriage equality was a bit low among Black Protestants, with only 38 percent supporting and 54 percent opposing. But on the other two measures, Black Protestants overwhelmingly supported LGBT equality. They favored nondiscrimination laws 6431, and on the question of religious refusals, black respondents actually opposed exemptions at higher rates than any other racial group, including white respondents:

So TC you got shit to back up your claims that black people are more homophobic then white people.

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tc is probably homophobic himself but finds it more problematic when "the blacks" do it like much of y'all on anything related to black people.

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cjsdowg posted...

We are fucking held accountable for every got damn thing. Even for shit we didn't do

But lets take a look at some polls and not anecdotal evidence.

https://thinkprogress.org/new-survey-debunks-the-myth-of-black-homophobia-e5066ae38aa8/

So TC you got shit to back up your claims that black people are more homophobic then white people.

We are held accountable and often blamed for shit as well.


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ZannoL posted...

Interesting read:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/6922351_Homophobia_hypermasculinity_and_the_US_Black_Church

again: I do not find it hard to believe that there is a problem with homophobia in the black community.

I do find it much harder (in fact, impossible) to believe, without strong evidence supporting it, that the problem is more prevalent among the black community than among the general population.

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We fight so hard for them, and this is what we get?!

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Taharqa_ posted...

We are held accountable and often blamed for shit as well.

what can you except when you rarely interact with black folk except for minor periods of time and come from cultures that view anything black as the boogeyman (except when appropriating it of course)

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