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Bluebomber182
01/18/20 11:51:22 AM
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shockthemonkey posted...
I love when people say you need moderates and independents to win as if theres anything moderate about Trump.


I never said Trumps a moderate but good luck winning swing states in the rust belt without moderates breaking for the dems this year
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Bluebomber182
01/18/20 11:51:52 AM
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shockthemonkey posted...

lmao

this is a funny troll at least


How dare I have a opinion you dont like
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ZMythos
01/18/20 11:54:33 AM
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Bluebomber182 posted...
I like the establishment & status quo. Is that so wrong?
Yes?

It's the establishment that let Trump get elected. It continues to oppress minorities, women, and LGBT+. And it keeps millions of Americans in poverty while feeding more and more tax dollars to the wealthiest.

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Bluebomber182
01/18/20 11:54:42 AM
#107:


shockthemonkey posted...

So swing states didnt go for the moderate in 2016 and you want the Democrats to try that again?


You cant win without Michigan Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. Dems need them to go blue again

Ohio is a red state now. Florida is flaky as fuck
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1337toothbrush
01/18/20 11:55:08 AM
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Bluebomber182 posted...
God forbid I dont support Bernie amirite?

Hes an extremist just like Trump on the other side if the aisle. I like the establishment & status quo. Is that so wrong?

Bernie's such an extremist who wants... free healthcare, free education, no wars, and evening the playing field. Clearly it is appropriate to compare this with Trump wanting to kick out people of color in favor of more immigration from white countries, more wars, and more benefits to the rich to the detriment of everyone else. They're two sides of the same coin, really!!
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Bluebomber182
01/18/20 11:55:28 AM
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Conflict posted...
Idk it's just funny. It's not often I see someone outright say "I like the establishment and status quo"


Its better than what we god with Trump
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hockeybub89
01/18/20 11:55:36 AM
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Bluebomber182 posted...
You cant win without Michigan Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. Dems need them to go blue again

Ohio is a red state now. Florida is flaky as fuck
And a moderate couldn't win those last time so...

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Bluebomber182
01/18/20 11:56:22 AM
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ZMythos posted...

Yes?

It's the establishment that let Trump get elected. It continues to oppress minorities, women, and LGBT+. And it keeps millions of Americans in poverty while feeding more and more tax dollars to the wealthiest.


No the msn got Trump elected
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ZMythos
01/18/20 11:57:47 AM
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Bluebomber182 posted...
No the msn got Trump elected
I assume you mean "MSM"

Which 1) Makes you look like a Trump Supporter and 2) If you think the media wants to abolish the status quo then you're delusional.

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Bluebomber182
01/18/20 11:57:49 AM
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Conflict posted...


Bernie is not an equivalent of Trump.


Its the same outsider bullshit Trump pushed. Bernies beliefs are totally different but its the same thing
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Antifar
01/18/20 11:58:02 AM
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HellRatUFO posted...


What are you smoking? Bernie shares Trumps same ridiculous garbage trade positions and advocation of tariffs lol.

are there, perhaps, other issues?
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luigi13579
01/18/20 11:59:30 AM
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Bluebomber182 posted...
Bernies beliefs are totally different but its the same thing
https://twitter.com/dril/status/473265809079693312
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hockeybub89
01/18/20 12:00:58 PM
#119:


Bluebomber182 posted...
Its the same outsider bullshit Trump pushed. Bernies beliefs are totally different but its the same thing
They are both literally outside the establishment. Where is the bullshit? Obama-era America is a standard we need to maintain ad infinitum? Why? And why a should a left-leaning party fight hard to be conservative?

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Bluebomber182
01/18/20 12:01:20 PM
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The msm had nonstop coverage of him and they say theres no such thing as bad press. He was a ratings juggernaut. Thats all the media gives a shit about
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Kazi1212
01/18/20 12:01:48 PM
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The left devouring itself

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Tsuyoi3
01/18/20 12:02:39 PM
#122:


Bluebomber182 posted...
I like the establishment & status quo. Is that so wrong?
Yes.

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Bluebomber182
01/18/20 12:05:28 PM
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I already said the democrats need to go more left but baby steps is better. Bernies an extreme left fanatic that will split the party in half
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hockeybub89
01/18/20 12:10:43 PM
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Bluebomber182 posted...
I already said the democrats need to go more left but baby steps is better. Bernies an extreme left fanatic that will split the party in half
Both parties need to die swift, absolute deaths though

And Bernie is not an extremist no matter how many times you say it.

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hockeybub89
01/18/20 12:12:22 PM
#126:


HellRatUFO posted...
Yes, Bernie is to the right of Donald Trump in regards to expanding work visas for immigrants to legally enter the country and work lol. He has gone on note several times spewing his theyre taking our jobs rhetoric, and his supporters either are oblivious to Bernies stance on this or defend this nonsense when they damn well would be bitching to the heavens if Trump said the same thing.
Are you the one that said Trump is the best leftist out there, doing all they want, and that people only hate him because he registered Republican?

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Kazi1212
01/18/20 12:13:06 PM
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Bernie may not be an extremist, but he's on the further end of the scale than any other candidate running

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Smashingpmkns
01/18/20 12:14:50 PM
#129:


Kazi1212 posted...
Bernie may not be an extremist, but he's on the further end of the scale than any other candidate running


This is a "close but no potato" moment
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Bluebomber182
01/18/20 12:14:51 PM
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Hes totally an extremist. How can you listen to his policy ideas and think anything but?
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closetjpopfan
01/18/20 12:15:23 PM
#132:


YokoGeri posted...
maybe the true object of our disdain should be... democratic voters?

I don't know what happened after the Obama era, but now they're petty and egotistical. They choose one candidate, often because he/she represents their demographic and vow to vote for the opposite party if their guy/gal doesn't win, even if said person is LITERALLY the guy who said that nazis are "very fine people" and who keeps a supremacist as his advisor (miller)

Sanders is my top choice but I'm voting for the Dem candidate no matter who they end up being. So your sweeping point that "democratic voters" are petty and egotistical for this reason is simply flat out WRONG.

NOW, will you kindly stop spouting this ridiculous nonsense (I highly doubt it...)?
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hockeybub89
01/18/20 12:18:55 PM
#134:


Bluebomber182 posted...
Hes totally an extremist. How can you listen to his policy ideas and think anything but?
This is why both parties need to die so we can establish more from the ashes. We shouldn't just have two parties tapdancing on the center point, arguing over minor differences, and screaming at everyone else for being too extreme and not getting aboard.

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hockeybub89
01/18/20 12:21:34 PM
#138:


HellRatUFO posted...
Being anti-trade is a policy in line with protectionists of several fucking centuries ago lol. How fucking dense do you have to be to obsessed with placing high tariffs and be under the impression that they dont negatively impact lower income people that are ultimately the ones that happen to be buying those products?
You also advocate for healthcare to be run even more like a business

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Bluebomber182
01/18/20 12:21:57 PM
#139:


Were gonna be stuck with a 2 party system forever. It sucks but it wont change. Libertarians & greens will never be taken seriously enough to win the presidency
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Antifar
01/18/20 12:22:44 PM
#140:


Sanders didn't vote for Trump's latest trade deal, while Warren and Klobuchar did
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Metal_Bomberman
01/18/20 12:23:06 PM
#141:


not gonna be lectured by someone who was a Republican not long ago

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Yazarogi
01/18/20 12:25:12 PM
#142:


Shut the fuck up

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Kazi1212
01/18/20 12:25:55 PM
#143:


Antifar posted...
Sanders didn't vote for Trump's latest trade deal, while Warren and Klobuchar did

Sanders supporters should use this as ammunition against Warren tbh

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ledbowman
01/18/20 12:27:36 PM
#144:


In November I think a lot of people will find themselves tired of this day in day out lying and drama and crime and would rather vote to send their kids to college for free

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ScazarMeltex
01/18/20 12:27:53 PM
#145:


Bluebomber182 posted...
I already said the democrats need to go more left but baby steps is better. Bernies an extreme left fanatic that will split the party in half
By far left you mean slightly left of center by the world's standard of politics. It's just that US politics sit so far to the right on the spectrum that anyone left of center seems like an extremist to you.
https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2020


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andel
01/18/20 12:28:21 PM
#146:


tc has been proven wrong on this every single time yet still keeps parroting incorrect information

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hockeybub89
01/18/20 12:30:12 PM
#147:


Bluebomber182 posted...
Were gonna be stuck with a 2 party system forever. It sucks but it wont change. Libertarians & greens will never be taken seriously enough to win the presidency
Again, this is why it is good that people are destroying the Democratic Party. When everything is razed to the ground, maybe people will stop thinking in these terms. Everything left or right of pure center being squeezed into two sausage casings is stupid and was bound to burst eventually.

You are saying both that Bernie is destroying everything and that nothing will ever change? Which is it?


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Metal_Bomberman
01/18/20 12:35:11 PM
#148:


Bluebomber182 posted...
God forbid I dont support Bernie amirite?

Hes an extremist just like Trump on the other side if the aisle. I like the establishment & status quo. Is that so wrong?

yes

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Kazi1212
01/18/20 12:37:30 PM
#149:


Whats so wrong with the establishment and status quo? Millions of people are living fine lives thanks to current standards and they dont want to take the risk in trying something new that may mess up the current standards that have been set

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Metal_Bomberman
01/18/20 12:39:13 PM
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and tens of millions are not fine

not to mention all the other countries we've fucked up

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