Current Events > Could modern feminism redeem The Lost World: Jurassic Park? (Spoilers)

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Hatred for the movie tends to come down to one scene: a teenage girl uses gymnastics to kick a 1,500 lb. velociraptor to its death. In context, the stunt is meant only as a setup to the Ian Malcolm quip, "You didn't make the (gymnastics) team?" For many, it's the Indiana Jones hides from a nuclear explosion in a led-lined refrigerator moment of the film or the franchise as a whole. But what if Jurassic World 3 brought back Vanessa Chester as Ian's daughter, Kelly Curtis? What if she was given a daughter of her own and gave that daughter an encouraging speech?

(paraphrasing) "You have to be strong. You have to firm. The world will try to stop you -- try and slow you down. But once you gain momentum, no force on Earth can stand in your way. You'll accomplish things nobody would believe possible. And they'll hate you for it. (The will.) They'll hate you because they know they can't stop you."

BOOM. Social commentary on one level and an in-universe callback on another level. They're not apologizing for a 13 year old girl defeating the prehistoric world's perfect killing machine. They're flaunting the fact that a strong young woman stood in defiance of her detractors and accomplished an impossible feat.

And anyone who's still salty about her kicking the dinosaur can stay mad. Dealwithitosaurus.

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I'm actually dead serious about this and would 100% do it, assuming Vanessa would be up for it, if I were directing Jurassic World 3. When you own your mistakes, they can't hurt you. You drove your tire off the road and into the mud? Spin your tire and sling that mud so people know you did it intentionally. We're not apologizing for having a little girl kill a big dino. We're celebrating her indomitable spirit.

didn't read lol

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Skye Reynolds posted...

Hatred for the movie tends to come down to one scene: a teenage girl uses gymnastics to kick a 1,500 lb. velociraptor to its death.

No it doesn't.
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...Wat
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How do you think up this shit

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Uh no

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Well, it's true.

Girl Power is popular right now. So is diversity. So is nostalgia.

We have a girl from the 90s who had a black mom and a white dad who accomplished an impossible feat. And that series is still going on. Bring her back, flesh her character out more as an adult, and flaunt the fact that she did the impossible. (Also, incidentally, remind people that Ian Malcolm had a black wife at a time when interracial couples weren't very common in mainstream movies that weren't specifically about interracial dating.)

It seems like a winning scenario for the movie all around if they bring her back. Looking over Vanessa's IMDb resume, and looking at the kind of paycheck Jurassic World might bring in, I'm sure she'd be down for a return unless she absolutely hated that role or that environment.

People watch Jurassic Park to see dinosaurs. Nobody cares about a minor character in a bad sequel.

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My favorite part of the movie is the bald hunter, played by Pete Postel...

Poslte...

Pete Postleth...PSTLTHW...

The old dad guy from Inception.

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But characters are what made the first movie the best. We have dinosaurs in all five pictures. We have good characters in one. Owen and Claire are decent (mostly because Chris Pratt and Bryce Dallas Howard have such likable personalities), but the Jurassic World movies have me begging for the return of Alan and Ellie.

Just because Kelly was underwritten in the second movie, when Vanessa Chester was 13 years old, that doesn't mean that she can pull out a good performance at 35.

Returning characters didn't make any of the other Jurassic Park sequels good and I doubt it will make World 3 good either.

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I don't expect her to make that much of a difference, but it could flesh out the mythology of the series as a whole by recounting her existence. And, again, they could redeem that scene which some consider film-ruining.

But who knows? She was literally a child when we last saw her. Maybe her character as an adult would prove to be popular. Maybe she grew up to be someone fun or someone commanding of respect. Who she was at 13 doesn't have to determine who she is now.

I'd be up for it. There's no reason to not have her return. Jeff Goldblum will do a cameo, sure, but he's not going to be a major supporting character. Having Malcolm's daughter in his stead might by the right way to go.

When people talk about mythology they generally aren't talking about Jeff Goldblum's step-daughters life after Lost World.

The people escaping from dinosaurs can be literally anyone.

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This rings Ghost Buster to me, no thanks.

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Jesus fucking Christ. What the hell is up with you these days?
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...

My favorite part of the movie is the bald hunter, played by Pete Postel...

Poslte...

Pete Postleth...PSTLTHW...

The old dad guy from Inception.

I still conisder the fact that his bar scene was deleted a travesty.

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Darmik posted...

The people escaping from dinosaurs can be literally anyone.

This is the logic which gives us bad horror movie sequels. Alien is about Ripley. Jaws is about Brody and Hooper. Halloween is about Lori Strode more than it is Michael Myers.

People are at the heart of nearly every good movie. Hollywood thinks that anyone can run from a dinosaur, a masked killer, or an alien death ray. And in sequels, that might be true. But to make a film popular enough to have a sequel, you need heart. It takes the right kind of sympathetic potential victim and the right kind of character response to the action to make that story engaging as more than just a popcorn flick.

DifferentialEquation posted...

I still conisder the fact that his bar scene was deleted a travesty.

It's perhaps the best scene in the movie and it didn't make the movie.

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Skye Reynolds posted...

This is the logic which gives us bad horror movie sequels. Alien is about Ripley. Jaws is about Brody and Hooper. Halloween is about Lori Strode more than it is Michael Myers.

People are at the heart of nearly every good movie. Hollywood thinks that anyone can run from a dinosaur, a masked killer, or an alien death ray. And in sequels, that might be true. But to make a film popular enough to have a sequel, you need heart. It takes the right kind of sympathetic potential victim and the right kind of character response to the action to make that story engaging as more than just a popcorn flick.

And you're talking about bringing back a minor character nobody can name from a sequel that isn't generally liked in a weird attempt to try and redeem a dumb scene.

This is more like wanting to see a movie about Ron Perlman's potential son in a future Alien movie because people disliked Alien 3. Except people like Ron so that's probably a slightly better idea.

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It was a dumb scene but the talking raptor dream from JP 3 was way sillier

Speaking of Pete Postlethwaite, everyone should see the movie Distant Voices, Still Lives, where he plays an abusive father. Achingly beautiful movie, magnificent and terrifying performance.

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coh posted...

It was a dumb scene but the talking raptor dream from JP 3 was way sillier

Alan...

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Darmik posted...

This is more like wanting to see a movie about Ron Perlman's potential son in a future Alien movie because people disliked Alien 3. Except people like Ron so that's probably a slightly better idea.

The bad idea is acknowledging that Alien 3 happened. I still want that alternate timeline in which Newt grows up to battle aliens like Ripley did. Fox toyed with the idea a few times, but never committed.

Alien 3 isn't a bad movie which can be redeemed by fixing one or two scenes. It's flawed in its conception for killing off the cast of the previous picture to make room for uninteresting characters. Say what you will about The Lost World, it didn't kill off the survivors of the previous film.

Jesus christ, let Newt go.

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...No.