Board 8 > Game of the Decade: 2010-2019 Contest Analysis Crew - Part 0

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Master Moltar
01/14/20 12:22:59 AM
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hi i see its contest season time again

This time I'm deciding to do something different (without consulting anyone) and make the Crew topic before the Contest even starts. I just wanted to get some early feedback from everyone about any changes or ideas they have for the Crew this year.

Should there be more members (6 + Guest) or is it fine as it was?
Should write-ups be posted sooner?
Should the format be completely different?

Anything you've got I'd like to hear, and that's from both former Crew members and readers. I'm open to suggestions.

or just use this as another stats topic to speculate about the contest and discuss the bracket when its released go nuts

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LeonhartFour
01/14/20 12:25:00 AM
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I feel like 6 members is good, especially if we're going to have multiple matches per day. I'm fine with writeups being posted close to the start time, but earlier is fine.

I'm not sure what ideas you have in mind for a different format though.

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MetalmindStats
01/14/20 1:09:34 AM
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I don't see any real reason to change things from the way they were in 2018, though take that with a grain of salt because I'm just some B8er who swung and missed with a few guest write-ups.

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Ngamer64
01/14/20 5:27:58 AM
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I think the size of the field and post timing in 2018 was ideal, the only bummer was how many Guest writeups ended up blank in the final two weeks or so. Maybe a new policy could be, if you don't have anything from the Guest two hours before posting time, mention so in the topic. And whoever sends the best e-mail becomes the official Guest for that day.


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MetalmindStats
01/14/20 5:44:23 AM
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Oh, apparently The Crew archives are down, something I just noticed by clicking the link in Moltar's sig.

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Ngamer64
01/14/20 6:47:18 AM
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Hmm? Archives look okay from what I'm seeing.

https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/Contest_Analysis_Crew

Oh I see what happened, the server put up a generic index.html when we want that wiped so it just shows the folders. Moltar can fix that later, but for now everything's still there, you can click into any season you want from the wiki.


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transcience
01/14/20 6:54:00 AM
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we probably need to see a bracket first to see what the format is. this could be fourways or four matches a day or 64 entries, who knows.

I think the problem we run into is guest fatigue - we get the same 10ish volunteers and its tough for them to want to write every 2-3 days since we do so many matches at once now. it was a lot easier to manage one match a day.

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ZenOfThunder
01/14/20 6:54:12 AM
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The crew format is still gold, I see no reason to change it

I will be signing up to be the guest on any sonic matches so I can overestimate their strength

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MetalmindStats
01/14/20 7:06:09 AM
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Ngamer64 posted...
Hmm? Archives look okay from what I'm seeing.

https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/Contest_Analysis_Crew

Oh I see what happened, the server put up a generic index.html when we want that wiped so it just shows the folders. Moltar can fix that later, but for now everything's still there, you can click into any season you want from the wiki.
Whoops, I guess that's what I get for just clicking on the sig link and not diving a little deeper.

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ZeldaTPLink
01/14/20 7:30:26 AM
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Creating a system to avoid guest fluking would be interesting. Maybe give it a deadline until 12 hours before the match starts in order to look for other people.

Don't think anything else needs to change.
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BlAcK TuRtLe
01/14/20 9:34:59 AM
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One thing you could do to reduce guest fluking is to have people send a writeup/prediction as criteria for signing up for the slot, and give them the opportunity to update it if the want to before the match.

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MasterMoltar
01/14/20 6:06:07 PM
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good to see that a lot of people like things as they are now

LeonhartFour posted...
I feel like 6 members is good, especially if we're going to have multiple matches per day. I'm fine with writeups being posted close to the start time, but earlier is fine.

I'm not sure what ideas you have in mind for a different format though.
tbh I'm not sure yet either but I guess that depends on what kind of contest we're getting

BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
One thing you could do to reduce guest fluking is to have people send a writeup/prediction as criteria for signing up for the slot, and give them the opportunity to update it if the want to before the match.
this isn't a bad idea, a write-up might be a bit much but a placeholder prediction when claiming the match might work

Though the other suggestions of a deadline for Guests to submit write-ups and letting it be a free-for-all after that also works since I'd be guaranteed a write-up and prediction.

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LeonhartFour
01/14/20 6:07:14 PM
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Yeah, posting early would at least give you time for someone to be an emergency fill-in if the guest no-shows.

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MasterMoltar
01/14/20 6:13:12 PM
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Also leon, tran, kleenex: I'm guessing the answer is yes but are you all interested in being the regulars again?

Or should someone new take a spot (tho I'd have no idea who any suggestions??)

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Lopen
01/14/20 6:15:17 PM
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Wow! The analysis crew! Golly gee!

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LeonhartFour
01/14/20 6:15:49 PM
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Yeah, I'll do it.

My last Crew as an unmarried man.

Kleenex is in Australia at the moment, so I'm not sure if he'll be able to respond!

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transience
01/14/20 6:18:07 PM
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I didn't think I'd say yes to another one after 2018 gave us basically the last character battle we'd ever need, but here we are. I'm in. god knows how many I've done as a married man!

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Ngamer64
01/14/20 6:28:28 PM
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If someone drops out and you need new blood, I nomination Metalmind.


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MasterMoltar
01/15/20 5:27:38 PM
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Hmm maybe a 6 person Crew? Though I like having it be an odd number so there aren't ties with the Crew Consensus

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transcience
01/15/20 5:51:18 PM
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yeah, an odd number for sure (including guest)

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Leonhart4
01/15/20 8:02:01 PM
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I think last year might have been my worst year in terms of points! I need to redeem myself!

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ctesjbuvf
01/17/20 5:02:11 AM
#22:


Tag! I've always enjoyed these.

Ngamer64 posted...
I think the size of the field and post timing in 2018 was ideal, the only bummer was how many Guest writeups ended up blank in the final two weeks or so. Maybe a new policy could be, if you don't have anything from the Guest two hours before posting time, mention so in the topic. And whoever sends the best e-mail becomes the official Guest for that day.

It has not really needed to be in the final part of the contest for guest to blank out though, but I suppose the format of last contest made it more difficult. Guests had a really short notice on if they were gonna be writing for a match, and there was not much way around that. If your idea was implemented, a more clear deadline would probably have to be specified and Moltar would have to check on everything twice each day, so I'd rather just think that if no Guest write-up was posted along with the rest, than someone could snatch it then.

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The Mana Sword
01/17/20 5:09:57 AM
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even on the other side of the globe my crew senses were tingling

yeah Im in, no real preference on format change, though wouldnt be opposed to adding a new regular member if people are into it

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ctesjbuvf
01/17/20 5:17:02 AM
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I agree on odd number, which would make it +0 or +2.

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Master Moltar
01/24/20 8:28:37 PM
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thinking about keeping this topic around until contest start

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LeonhartFour
01/24/20 9:30:42 PM
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LeonhartFour
02/01/20 12:21:23 AM
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ctesjbuvf
02/03/20 12:09:42 PM
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Have you decided on crew size?

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LeonhartFour
02/11/20 12:01:40 AM
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02/11/20 1:08:14 AM
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LeonhartFour
02/12/20 6:43:27 PM
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we can officially start asking where the darn bracket is now

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LeonhartFour
02/20/20 10:03:23 PM
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LusterSoldier
02/21/20 2:08:50 AM
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ZeldaTPLink posted...
Creating a system to avoid guest fluking would be interesting. Maybe give it a deadline until 12 hours before the match starts in order to look for other people.


I like this idea. That provides enough time to find a replacement guest, but if the original guest sends in their write-up before the match starts, then it should override the write-up provided by the replacement guest.
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Leonhart4
02/28/20 7:23:17 PM
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The Mana Sword
02/28/20 7:55:23 PM
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ZenOfThunder
02/28/20 9:13:59 PM
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Can I sign up for the Sonic Mania match right now

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Master Moltar
02/29/20 2:56:22 PM
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sure

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Kotetsu534
02/29/20 3:10:54 PM
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The placeholder prediction from guests sounds like a great idea.

I have nothing else to add but that I'm really looking forward to reading you guys' write ups. I also appreciate any post-match commentary you can offer too (particuarly where results are interesting/unexpected).

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Master Moltar
02/29/20 3:45:34 PM
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ugh 4 matches a day for a while

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transience
02/29/20 3:46:41 PM
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someone open a gofundme for moltar

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Leonhart4
02/29/20 3:53:37 PM
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What's the last day of the contest? I think it should finish before the wedding, but it'll be close!

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ZenOfThunder
02/29/20 3:56:44 PM
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leon just make your wedding vows your Crew analysis for the final match

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MetalmindStats
02/29/20 4:00:51 PM
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The contest ends on April 30, though there's a six-day break in the middle starting April 14.

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LeonhartFour
02/29/20 5:10:51 PM
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MetalmindStats posted...
The contest ends on April 30, though there's a six-day break in the middle starting April 14.

whew that gives me a few weeks

ZenOfThunder posted...
leon just make your wedding vows your Crew analysis for the final match

I can do that

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transience
02/29/20 10:08:59 PM
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I have to say, I'm excited to get going on this contest

I probably won't be on day 26 of 4 writeups a day

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ZeldaTPLink
03/01/20 6:25:49 AM
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transience posted...
I have to say, I'm excited to get going on this contest

I probably won't be on day 26 of 4 writeups a day

It's only 24 of that though, since apparently Allen reduced Round 3 to two matches a day.
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LeonhartFour
03/03/20 5:33:51 AM
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Master Moltar
03/08/20 1:28:34 PM
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MetalmindStats posted...
Oh, apparently The Crew archives are down, something I just noticed by clicking the link in Moltar's sig.

Ngamer64 posted...
Hmm? Archives look okay from what I'm seeing.

https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/Contest_Analysis_Crew

Oh I see what happened, the server put up a generic index.html when we want that wiped so it just shows the folders. Moltar can fix that later, but for now everything's still there, you can click into any season you want from the wiki.

finally fixed this

also finally starting to actually go through the bracket and think about things, may post some thoughts on debated matches at some point


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transcience
03/08/20 1:40:59 PM
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im saving myself just because its going to be a lot of writing over the next few weeks!

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Leonhart4
03/08/20 1:47:18 PM
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I'm not expecting to do long writeups for the first couple rounds just because there's so little data out there!

I need to find a gimmick

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