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The Trent
01/13/20 3:43:11 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Every team cheats is not a defense for what the Astros did.

it's a good thing i'm not trying to defend them then!

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UnholyMudcrab
01/13/20 3:43:13 PM
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sktgamer_13dude posted...
Every team cheats is not a defense for what the Astros did.

He definitely seems to think it is, though
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sktgamer_13dude
01/13/20 3:47:08 PM
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Zangulus posted...
Two guys who were suspended were fired... so literally nothing changes there.

$5,000,000 fine... maximum allowed. So... how much money is their spending cap this year? Up to $211,000,000... so a fine of 2.3% of a single year's salaries paid out at maximum.

Ooooooh. The pain.
There is no cap in baseball.

They also lost 4 draft picks, which in all honesty is the biggest punishment.

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mew4ever
01/13/20 3:49:36 PM
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Honestly I feel like it pays to cheat. Even if you get it vacated, does that take away the joy the fans got out of winning that championship?

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darkphoenix181
01/13/20 3:52:00 PM
#58:


Still got my sign and shirt when they won world series.
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Correct_Facts
01/13/20 3:54:03 PM
#59:


darkphoenix181 posted...
Still got my sign and shirt when they won world series.
Won by cheating*
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darkphoenix181
01/13/20 3:56:39 PM
#60:


Won
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Error1355
01/13/20 3:59:15 PM
#61:


darkphoenix181 posted...
Won
Won by turning the difficulty setting to Easy.*

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sktgamer_13dude
01/13/20 4:05:11 PM
#62:


Zangulus posted...
Okay, Cap was a bad word. Their salary payout for the next year.

And true, the draft picks are going to be rough. A whole two years of not getting 4 picks. I'm still not all that impressed.
I mean with how the MLB draft works, itll be a decent hit to their scouting department.

Picks have a slot value (first 10 rounds iirc) and any signing bonus over $250k (again iirc) counts against that pool. The higher the pick, the more slot value it brings to add to your pool. Generally, high schoolers get higher bonuses since they have more leverage (can go to college for 2 years) and can have more upside while college seniors get picked to offset that, as theyll tend to sign for below slot values.

Basically the Astros wont be able to really draft that much great talent in the next two years because they wont have the money pool to really sign the higher upside players. Their entire front office will likely get a facelift (the assistant GM was banned as well for being a dick) so itll actually have some effect.

Now I still agree that it was a meh punishment (that got better when Crane decided to have balls), but the draft pick forfeiture actually has some teeth.

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darkphoenix181
01/13/20 4:08:49 PM
#63:


Error1355 posted...
Won by turning the difficulty setting to Easy.*

Tbh I just want my shirt and sign to go up in value.
I am not a big sports fan.
The parade just happened to go by my building when the won lol.
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The Trent
01/13/20 4:13:34 PM
#64:


Error1355 posted...
Won by turning the difficulty setting to Easy.*

hell yeah!

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darkphoenix181
01/13/20 4:33:14 PM
#65:


The Trent posted...
hell yeah!

Ok Mike Matei
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The Trent
01/13/20 4:33:57 PM
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i...don't know who that is
i will assume it was not complimentary

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Lebronwon
01/13/20 4:34:22 PM
#67:


K181 posted...
Now for the Red Sox punishment.
This Alex Cora is fucked.

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darkphoenix181
01/13/20 4:35:18 PM
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The Trent posted...
i...don't know who that is
i will assume it was not complimentary

Dude on AVGN channel. Says you didn't beat SNES games on switch if you use rewind function.
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The Trent
01/13/20 4:35:59 PM
#69:


2018 ALCS must have been intense
like who could outcheat the other

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Delirious_Beard
01/13/20 5:13:57 PM
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they should blacklist luhnow tbh

this is a guy who was willing to acquire domestic abusers and child molesters as well as cheat in every conceivable way on the field in order to gain a competitive advantage

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TomNook20
01/13/20 5:50:22 PM
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The Trent
01/13/20 5:53:19 PM
#72:


Delirious_Beard posted...
they should blacklist luhnow tbh

this is a guy who was willing to acquire domestic abusers and child molesters as well as cheat in every conceivable way on the field in order to gain a competitive advantage


Wait what's the pedophile part

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Delirious_Beard
01/13/20 6:05:14 PM
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The Trent posted...
Wait what's the pedophile part

luhnow wanted to draft luke heimlich, who molested his niece, and had to be convinced by his other front office members to not do it

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sktgamer_13dude
01/13/20 6:16:19 PM
#75:


Captain_Qwark posted...
What did they do? I can't open the link
@Captain_Qwark

put a camera in CF that was pointed at the catcher and relayed to a monitor just outside the dugout. Players would decode the signs from the catcher and bang on a trash can depending on what pitch was called. They won the WS the year they did this.

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Bio1590
01/14/20 7:40:19 PM
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What a joke punishment lol
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kingdrake2
01/14/20 8:01:21 PM
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Delirious_Beard posted...
luhnow wanted to draft luke heimlich, who molested his niece


i wish only the worse things in life just for him. i can't forgive for what he did that's fucking wrong.
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The Trent
01/15/20 10:14:59 AM
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cora also fired
presumably because they're going to hit him with the banhammer too

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Error1355
01/15/20 10:54:18 AM
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Gotta love the internet.



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LiteCoin
01/15/20 10:54:55 AM
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Its still a light punishment
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The Trent
01/15/20 11:00:42 AM
#81:


i wouldn't have fired cora
but i probably wouldn't have fired hinch either

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divot1338
01/15/20 11:00:55 AM
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*taps index and ring finger of left hand on chin*
*tugs right ear and spits*

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The Trent
01/15/20 11:03:16 AM
#83:


it's also incredible to me that there are no player punishments for this
like it's off-limits
the players are the ones who crafted, implemented, executed and benefited from this systematic cheat
yet they will bear no official responsibility and basically just have to deal with heckling

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Bio1590
01/15/20 11:51:51 AM
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Also I want to give a hearty LOL to the shitbrains that are defending people like Verlander not stepping forward because "it takes balls" and "team unity" and "it could ruin his career" as if Verlander hasn't tried to be the fucking baseball police and literally openly complained about sign stealing before ending up with Houston.
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The Trent
01/15/20 11:54:03 AM
#85:


yeah that is kinda hilarious
it could ruin his career like the dude's not done in 2 more years anyway and has been righteous as fuck randomly throughout his tenure in the majors

the fact of the matter is that baseball players love cheating, they love getting an edge on each other, they love bending the rules
cheating is literally part of baseball's lore in a way that is unmatched in other sports

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ExtremeLuchador
01/15/20 12:06:08 PM
#86:


In the 70s and 80s it was corked bats and coffee laced with speed. Every team cheats.

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The Trent
01/15/20 12:06:35 PM
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baseball players love cheating
there's really no way around this

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