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HerpToTheDerp
01/10/20 6:16:27 PM
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i finally caved and watched this crap. that shit was so stupid when he reached across the screen to grab that necklace or whatever to analyze it. literally a gag tiered power
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Doom_Art
01/10/20 6:18:29 PM
#52:


I enjoyed that concept and liked seeing them play around with it

How sad to log on here and see that I'm wrong apparently :(

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SwayM
01/10/20 6:21:13 PM
#53:


Doom_Art posted...
I enjoyed that concept and liked seeing them play around with it

How sad to log on here and see that I'm wrong apparently :(

Sorry to break it to you.

We have cookies and juice if you wanna take a seat and come to terms with it. Take your time.

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darkphoenix181
01/10/20 6:35:37 PM
#54:


Doom_Art posted...
I enjoyed that concept and liked seeing them play around with it

How sad to log on here and see that I'm wrong apparently :(

The concept isn't bad, the problem is they only added it in the fix glaring plotholes due to them botching Rey ancestry between the movies and then probably taking it too far.
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SwayM
01/10/20 6:38:16 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
The concept isn't bad, the problem is they only added it in the fix glaring plotholes due to them botching Rey ancestry between the movies and then probably taking it too far.

How did they botch it between movies?

They botched it in this fucking movie by making her a Palpatine. JJ drowned this franchise in mud because he couldnt handle the fact that other people had way more interesting ideas than him.

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darkphoenix181
01/10/20 6:41:42 PM
#56:


SwayM posted...
How did they botch it between movies?

They botched it in this fucking movie by making her a Palpatine. JJ drowned this franchise in mud because he couldnt handle the fact that other people had way more interesting ideas than him.

The end of tlj had a direction and this movie had another. But Rian explained why he chose to do what he did was he had no direction to what her ancestry was, even ran it by J J and it was all good.

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s0nicfan
01/10/20 6:43:29 PM
#57:


SwayM posted...
How did they botch it between movies?

They botched it in this fucking movie by making her a Palpatine. JJ drowned this franchise in mud because he couldnt handle the fact that other people had way more interesting ideas than him.

Johnson is a hack, and "everything is the opposite of what is expected or set up" isn't interesting just because it is unexpected. It's lazy, M night shyamalan "what a twist!" scriptwriting.

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SwayM
01/10/20 6:43:37 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
The end of tlj had a direction and this movie had another. But Rian explained why he chose to do what he did was he had no direction to what her ancestry was, even ran it by J J and it was all good.

Oh dear lord.

yeah its fine you do your thing

*in his head*

stupid idiot he didnt say anything about the grandparents. JJ you fucking genius

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SwayM
01/10/20 6:47:50 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Johnson is a hack, and "everything is the opposite of what is expected or set up" isn't interesting just because it is unexpected. It's lazy, M night shyamalan "what a twist!" scriptwriting.

Setting up a handful of questions with only a handful of answers and then giving the fans two years to speculate on what those answers are...not a great recipe for success. The fans are going to theorize exactly every single possibility and discuss it at length.

Thr most interesting and best choice Rian could have made with the material he was given is make Rey a nobody.

Rian actually had proper ideas and took this franchise in an interesting direction, fuck the mystery box shit. Yall put so much stake on questions that dont fucking matter.


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DevsBro
01/10/20 7:24:05 PM
#60:


SwayM posted...
Good job JJ. Master of setup but cant payoff anything.
My biggest complaint with SW9 is that it refuses to follow through on anything.

Chewie's dead! Just kidding!
Double blade Rey! Nope just the evil one!
Here Leia, take Luke's saber! Just kidding, it was in my pocket!
C3PO memory wipe! Just kidding, R2D2 had a backup!
Haha if you kill me I will possess you! Just kidding!

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s0nicfan
01/10/20 7:34:39 PM
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SwayM posted...
Setting up a handful of questions with only a handful of answers and then giving the fans two years to speculate on what those answers are...not a great recipe for success. The fans are going to theorize exactly every single possibility and discuss it at length.

Thr most interesting and best choice Rian could have made with the material he was given is make Rey a nobody.

Rian actually had proper ideas and took this franchise in an interesting direction, fuck the mystery box shit. Yall put so much stake on questions that dont fucking matter.

You're literally making the argument that intentionally picking twists people couldn't see coming is good writing because if fans could predict it, it somehow means that it isn't a good direction to go in.

But sure, I'll indulge you. What interesting direction was he taking the franchise in that could have continued into the next movie?

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BakonBitz
01/10/20 7:52:22 PM
#62:


SwayM posted...
All these people saying they set up this connection so its fine. Or its space magic who cares where they draw the line.

Theres a very clear distinction between an ethereal link between these two characters and downloading a lightsabre through the force.

So fuckin dumb

and then he just goes on to slaughter the absolutely irrelevant knights of ren. Good job JJ. Master of setup but cant payoff anything.
Honestly if you have an issue with the lightsaber then you should've had a problem with the rest of the instances that they communicated/interacted through the Force throughout the entire trilogy. Not sure why the lightsaber tipped you over the edge.

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s0nicfan
01/10/20 7:56:04 PM
#63:


BakonBitz posted...
Honestly if you have an issue with the lightsaber then you should've had a problem with the rest of the instances that they communicated/interacted through the Force throughout the entire trilogy. Not sure why the lightsaber tipped you over the edge.

The physical link was also first teased in his glorious lord Johnson's TLJ when kylo's face and glove gets wet from the ocean spray when he reaches out to Rey while she's training with Luke.

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SwayM
01/11/20 12:46:35 PM
#64:


s0nicfan posted...
You're literally making the argument that intentionally picking twists people couldn't see coming is good writing because if fans could predict it, it somehow means that it isn't a good direction to go in.

But sure, I'll indulge you. What interesting direction was he taking the franchise in that could have continued into the next movie?

if you have a question with only a handful of answers and no matter what answer you chose the fans are going to cry a river of tears (see my point proven with Granddaughter Palpatine)

Rian made the absolute best choice. Make Rey a nobody and forge a new path for Star Wars that isnt about bloodlines, traditions and all that other shit. People are rightfully roasting JJ over the coals for leaning so hard on nostalgia and fan service when Rian was trying to say anyone can be great, the universe is a big place and there are many interesting stories to tell

JJ thinks Star Wars is only interesting if you come form 1 of 4 bloodlines clearly that isnt the fuckin case

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SwayM
01/11/20 12:48:42 PM
#65:


BakonBitz posted...
Honestly if you have an issue with the lightsaber then you should've had a problem with the rest of the instances that they communicated/interacted through the Force throughout the entire trilogy. Not sure why the lightsaber tipped you over the edge.

idk how its so difficult for someone to understand that people might see a dramatic difference between a telepathic force connection between two characters minds and sending a physical object through that connection.


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The Trent
01/11/20 12:50:38 PM
#66:


BakonBitz posted...
Honestly if you have an issue with the lightsaber then you should've had a problem with the rest of the instances that they communicated/interacted through the Force throughout the entire trilogy. Not sure why the lightsaber tipped you over the edge.


i mean i kinda did
so the lightsaber was particularly egregious

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BakonBitz
01/11/20 1:37:12 PM
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SwayM posted...
idk how its so difficult for someone to understand that people might see a dramatic difference between a telepathic force connection between two characters minds and sending a physical object through that connection.
Yeah, telepathic force connection that has constantly shown they can interact with or teleport objects near them even before the lightsaber thing. Remember the lightsaber fight where Kylo ripped off Rey's necklace? Or that he found out where Rey is by parts of his Vader shrine suddenly appearing near him because it got destroyed? Or how about Kylo getting wet from rain in TLJ?

It's been established before that objects can be transported via their Force connection.

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sLaCkEr408___RJ
01/11/20 1:43:27 PM
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SwayM posted...
if you have a question with only a handful of answers and no matter what answer you chose the fans are going to cry a river of tears (see my point proven with Granddaughter Palpatine)

Rian made the absolute best choice. Make Rey a nobody and forge a new path for Star Wars that isnt about bloodlines, traditions and all that other shit. People are rightfully roasting JJ over the coals for leaning so hard on nostalgia and fan service when Rian was trying to say anyone can be great, the universe is a big place and there are many interesting stories to tell

JJ thinks Star Wars is only interesting if you come form 1 of 4 bloodlines clearly that isnt the fuckin case
Skywalker bloodline should be the only significant one due to Anakin being born from the force itself.

Palpatine bloodline shouldn't be powerful without training.
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evil_zombie11
01/11/20 1:46:30 PM
#69:


Shoe horning in Leia being really good with the force is the dumbest thing ever.

"Don't forget the WAHMENS"

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sLaCkEr408___RJ
01/11/20 2:04:12 PM
#70:


evil_zombie11 posted...
Shoe horning in Leia being really good with the force is the dumbest thing ever.

"Don't forget the WAHMENS"
Leia being strong in the force has been highly anticipated since RotJ. It's not shoehorned.
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CyricZ
01/11/20 2:05:56 PM
#71:


Imagine living in a world where making Princess Leia a badass is controversial.

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HBOSS
01/11/20 2:38:41 PM
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about force teleportation and projection... have anyone related it to what happened in tv show Rebels yet?

for those that watch the dxd star wars rebels series, its been established theres a Force Nexus on Lothal. Time and space dont matter in there. Ezra have used it to take Ashoka out of her time fighting Darth Vader at the Sith Battlestation. The Emperor has influenced force nexus but has no access to it like Ezra

perhaps Rey and Ben are using the force Nexus somehow. reason 1: they are in their own space. the link between both Rey and Ben can likely be explained through how the force nexus works. result: Rey and Ben have the force affinity of the nexus. this can explain the use of force teleportation. since force users have accessed it, it may be part of the force collective. all jedi reside in one as an avatar of the force. knowledge can be passed to jedi to jedi this way. Ashoka was heard in RoS. Ashoka was in the Force Nexus and knows what it can do. therefore, Jedi abilities may have been enhanced through the knowledge of this in the force.

i dunno...

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evil_zombie11
01/11/20 2:42:26 PM
#73:


CyricZ posted...
Imagine living in a world where making Princess Leia a badass is controversial.

Ripley is badass, a flying grandma is comedy at best.

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sLaCkEr408___RJ
01/11/20 2:48:24 PM
#74:


evil_zombie11 posted...
Ripley is badass, a flying grandma is comedy at best.
If anyone could come back from space, it's Leia.
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Ving_Rhames
01/11/20 3:00:47 PM
#75:


You don't find the whole blocking and reflecting fleet destroying Lightning worse?

Hell, the fleet destroying Lightning was stupid (and ultimately pointless anyway) enough...

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Ving_Rhames
01/11/20 3:01:37 PM
#76:


CyricZ posted...
Imagine living in a world where making Princess Leia a badass is controversial.

lol what? Leia was ALWAYS badass, she wasn't "controversial" then, hmm, I wonder what changed.

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BakonBitz
01/11/20 3:06:40 PM
#77:


Ving_Rhames posted...
You don't find the whole blocking and reflecting fleet destroying Lightning worse?

Hell, the fleet destroying Lightning was stupid (and ultimately pointless anyway) enough...
To be fair the lightning being that powerful is explained by Exogol's weather enhancing the lightning effect. He did aim it up into the clouds before it spread around, after all.

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