Board 8 > Mercenaries 5 thoughts and discussion topic

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ZeeksFire
02/15/20 11:08:06 AM
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not denying it.
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ScareChan
02/18/20 11:54:43 PM
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mercs

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KanzarisKelshen
02/25/20 9:39:08 PM
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Tinkering with ideas for high-end mercs as is my wont. What do you guys think of this particular build, battle wise? Paging @Drakeryn @HeroicGammaRay @Dantezoid since I know they all have played the game.

Emet-Selch (Final Fantasy XIV)
Villainous Male Otherworldly

Emet-Selch is as he appears in Final Fantasy XIV, with full access to his cutscene powers and attacks from all relevant instances, save for Black Cauldron. He has access to the full extent of his power of creation, but may not summon sentient beings with it except for those displayed in his attacks. Gigantomachy will not have its enrage functions.

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It's always been a bit of a sticking point that 7/weeks are all spectacle fighters and gunners with no mages on that level. What do you all think about this particular one? Or is he more of a beefy 6/week?

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Dantezoid
02/26/20 11:07:08 AM
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I find it hard to give emet selch 7/week respect if I'm not going to give the WoL high respect too

And I don't think I'm going to give the WoL high respect, idk

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KanzarisKelshen
02/26/20 3:01:02 PM
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Dantezoid posted...
I find it hard to give emet selch 7/week respect if I'm not going to give the WoL high respect too

And I don't think I'm going to give the WoL high respect, idk

Even if we assume the trailer cutscenes are canon? I agree with just gameplay the WoL isn't as impressive since the main feat they have is outmuscling Susanoo, but they got some nice feats in those promos

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Dantezoid
02/26/20 3:24:15 PM
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Ive seen the WoL stand around idly so much as stuff happens around them man

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X_Dante_X
02/26/20 5:18:16 PM
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secret reason i personally have a hard time taking emet selch seriously:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyIQeObzmc8

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Bossman_Coolguy
02/26/20 5:23:22 PM
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zenos is a great 6/7 upkeep guy

falls from the sky bro

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Bossman_Coolguy
02/26/20 5:26:02 PM
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problem with wol is like he has so many feats but its a MMO so like half the community is like yeah he solos then and then the rest are like lol no but it turns out who knows what he can do

Zenos does kinda poop on him in a 1v1 in 4.0 though..!

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X_Dante_X
02/26/20 5:27:58 PM
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i'll never forgive the WoI for that one 3.0 cutscene in azys la where they let the bad guy just literally walk away

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Bossman_Coolguy
02/26/20 5:49:15 PM
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wol in 3.0 against lakshimi or whatever was like oh shit a primal its gonna kill the world and someone be like "go back to kugane (or whatever the hub town was) and finds some pals to help you bro you'll need it, bro" and hes like "but i thought the world was ending" but whatever yolo

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X_Dante_X
02/26/20 5:51:50 PM
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that was 4.0!

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02/26/20 6:32:25 PM
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DeathChicken
02/28/20 12:00:57 PM
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He's probably not a 7, but I'd put Tremere Fledgling from Bloodlines way up there. Blood magic is mean

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DeathChicken
02/29/20 3:35:05 PM
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...then again he's very similar to Kain and Kain's respect was "Very mean 6 unless you have a squirt gun handy, then he's a 1"

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ZeeksFire
03/05/20 2:06:48 PM
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I think it'd be more interesting to throw in some of the Primals from ff14 than some of the characters. At least you can judge the primals in a way because everyone has seen their general powers at various tiers.
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Dantezoid
03/05/20 2:19:22 PM
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Good king moggle mog when

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trdl23
03/05/20 4:13:56 PM
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The trouble with Primals is we would need to ban Tempering, which gimps them fairly hard.

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Dantezoid
03/06/20 10:04:52 AM
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Yeah but they could basically all have music passives so it's ok

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ZeeksFire
03/06/20 10:35:49 AM
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I mean, in battle tempering, yeah, but pre-battle/results tempering as a mind control effect for the battle/next week could be interesting.
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trdl23
03/06/20 10:50:37 AM
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Its also a problem because they canonically get summoned at different power levels all the time.

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Dantezoid
03/06/20 10:56:19 AM
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Sounds like the only solution that makes everyone happy is to make all the primals one big pure support with a random mind control ability that can also choose the battle music every week

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KanzarisKelshen
03/06/20 11:00:27 AM
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The main issue is there's no clear way to gauge their power yeah

Like by all means Emet-Selch is a fuckload stronger than any Primal except Bahamut and Shinryu, but how respectable that is depends on how much you respect the Warrior of Light anyway. I personally think the former is an easy 7 and most Primals would be low mid 6s, but I don't know if I'm the majority here.

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DeathChicken
03/13/20 11:53:21 AM
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hm

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DeathChicken
03/22/20 11:54:47 AM
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Plague thought, Eleanor Lamb is probably the strongest not-Elizabeth thing in the Bioshocks. Her vs Point Man would be a fun fight

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