Board 8 > I finally got to sleep for the first time in three days

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trdl23 12/27/19 9:43:53 AM #1:	Ama. --- E come vivo? Vivo! <cite>trdl23 posted [p:932112380] in I finally ... [t:78285632]...</cite> <quote>Ama. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raka_Putra 12/27/19 9:46:30 AM #2:	Why didn't you sleep? --- Into the woods, but mind the past... Into the woods, but mind the future! <cite>Raka_Putra posted [p:932112473] in I finally ... [t:78285632]...</cite> <quote>Why didn't you sleep? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
trdl23 12/27/19 9:48:41 AM #3:	Because insomnia is awful and I couldnt find my meds until last night --- E come vivo? Vivo! <cite>trdl23 posted [p:932112546] in I finally ... [t:78285632]...</cite> <quote>Because insomnia is awful and I couldnt find my meds until last night </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 12/27/19 10:21:58 AM #4:	How do you feel? --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:932113457] in I finally ... [t:78285632]...</cite> <quote>How do you feel? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raka_Putra 12/27/19 10:28:17 AM #5:	What did you do when you couldn't sleep? --- Into the woods, but mind the past... Into the woods, but mind the future! <cite>Raka_Putra posted [p:932113657] in I finally ... [t:78285632]...</cite> <quote>What did you do when you couldn't sleep? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bane_Of_Despair 12/27/19 10:47:24 AM #6:	When we all fall asleep, where do we go? --- You were the cancer, that's all you'll ever be ...and when the Clouds cleared,Advokaiser stood alone as CBX Guru Champ <cite>Bane_Of_Despair posted [p:932114238] in I finally ... [t:78285632]...</cite> <quote>When we all fall asleep, where do we go? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
trdl23 12/27/19 11:29:47 AM #7:	Peace___Frog posted... How do you feel? Better than yesterday, worse than four days ago. Sad about not getting into Michigan and missing my family. Raka_Putra posted... What did you do when you couldn't sleep? Tried to sleep, then watched YouTube Bane_Of_Despair posted... When we all fall asleep, where do we go? The screaming void --- E come vivo? Vivo! <cite>trdl23 posted [p:932115685] in I finally ... [t:78285632]...</cite> <quote>Peace___Frog posted... </cite> <quote>How do you feel?</quote>Better than yesterday, worse than four days ago. Sad about not getting into Michigan and missing my family. Raka_Putra posted... </cite> <quote>What did you do when you couldn't sleep?</quote>Tried to sleep, then watched YouTube Bane_Of_Despair posted... </cite> <quote>When we all fall asleep, where do we go?</quote>The screaming void </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
banananor 12/27/19 11:48:15 AM #8:	I'm sorry you have to go through that. I had insomnia for a while, and the worst part was knowing I was probably going to miss my obligations the next day(s) It really is a curse --- You did indeed stab me in the back. However, you are only level one, whilst I am level 50. That means I should remain uninjured. <cite>banananor posted [p:932116290] in I finally ... [t:78285632]...</cite> <quote>I'm sorry you have to go through that. I had insomnia for a while, and the worst part was knowing I was probably going to miss my obligations the next day(s) It really is a curse </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
trdl23 12/27/19 12:30:14 PM #9:	Its pretty much permanent with me since H1N1 messed up my brain stem. Suppose its better than being dead. --- E come vivo? Vivo! <cite>trdl23 posted [p:932117731] in I finally ... [t:78285632]...</cite> <quote>Its pretty much permanent with me since H1N1 messed up my brain stem. Suppose its better than being dead. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 12/27/19 12:40:23 PM #10:	Damn that's rough. Keep those meds handy! --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png <cite>pjbasis posted [p:932118084] in I finally ... [t:78285632]...</cite> <quote>Damn that's rough. Keep those meds handy! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 12/27/19 1:59:49 PM #11:	That really sucks. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:932121025] in I finally ... [t:78285632]...</cite> <quote>That really sucks. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WhiteLens 12/27/19 2:28:36 PM #12:	Dude, look into cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia. It's considered the gold standard for treating insomnia. It's actually not good to rely on medicine for sleep in the long run. They don't give you very good sleep quality, and you develop a psychological dependency on them. trdl23 posted... Its pretty much permanent with me since H1N1 messed up my brain stem. It's actually quite common for someone to go through a life event that triggered their insomnia, but the insomnia still persists even after what triggered it has past. It's how people develop chronic insomnia. Insomnia is predominately a psychological issue and thinking something is like wrong with your brain can keep the insomnia going, especially if you're prone to getting anxious all the time. What's happening is that your body is constantly activating an arousal system, and what CBTi does is suppose to address your thought patterns and behaviors around sleep and ease your mind. I can provide a few resources for it (mainly YouTube channels), but the thing to keep in mind is that sleep is suppose to be something that happens naturally, and constantly being worried about it and the effects of lack of sleep, will only make sleep harder. --- http://www.backloggery.com/whitelens \| https://myanimelist.net/profile/WhiteLens F/GO: 271551102; FFRK: 9k6d; FFBE: 886783216 <cite>WhiteLens posted [p:932122126] in I finally ... [t:78285632]...</cite> <quote>Dude, look into cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia. It's considered the gold standard for treating insomnia. It's actually not good to rely on medicine for sleep in the long run. They don't give you very good sleep quality, and you develop a psychological dependency on them. trdl23 posted... </cite> <quote>Its pretty much permanent with me since H1N1 messed up my brain stem.</quote> It's actually quite common for someone to go through a life event that triggered their insomnia, but the insomnia still persists even after what triggered it has past. It's how people develop chronic insomnia. Insomnia is predominately a psychological issue and thinking something is like wrong with your brain can keep the insomnia going, especially if you're prone to getting anxious all the time. What's happening is that your body is constantly activating an arousal system, and what CBTi does is suppose to address your thought patterns and behaviors around sleep and ease your mind. I can provide a few resources for it (mainly YouTube channels), but the thing to keep in mind is that sleep is suppose to be something that happens naturally, and constantly being worried about it and the effects of lack of sleep, will only make sleep harder. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CherryCokes 12/27/19 2:56:48 PM #13:	when you sleep, where do your fingers go? --- "Mighty boobs." - Vlado <cite>CherryCokes posted [p:932123233] in I finally ... [t:78285632]...</cite> <quote>when you sleep, where do your fingers go? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raka_Putra 12/27/19 8:41:24 PM #14:	Any games you playing lately? --- Into the woods, but mind the past... Into the woods, but mind the future! <cite>Raka_Putra posted [p:932135874] in I finally ... [t:78285632]...</cite> <quote>Any games you playing lately? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
trdl23 12/29/19 5:08:21 AM #15:	WhiteLens, I would appreciate a bit more insight into that stuff. I'm lucky that my doctor found a solution with an off-label use of a drug that doesn't cause chemical dependency at least. I'll take anything at this point. I hate this, and I've been stuck like this for a decade. CherryCokes posted... when you sleep, where do your fingers go? The screaming void. Raka_Putra posted... Any games you playing lately? A fuckton of D&D and FFXIV, with some Magic the Gathering thrown in there. --- E come vivo? Vivo! <cite>trdl23 posted [p:932188721] in I finally ... [t:78285632]...</cite> <quote>WhiteLens, I would appreciate a bit more insight into that stuff. I'm lucky that my doctor found a solution with an off-label use of a drug that doesn't cause chemical dependency at least. I'll take anything at this point. I hate this, and I've been stuck like this for a decade. CherryCokes posted... </cite> <quote>when you sleep, where do your fingers go?</quote>The screaming void. Raka_Putra posted... </cite> <quote>Any games you playing lately?</quote>A fuckton of D&D and FFXIV, with some Magic the Gathering thrown in there. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TomNook 12/29/19 9:21:26 AM #16:	When people with insomnia say they didn't sleep, do they literally mean they didn't at all? 0 minutes of sleep? Or that they laid in bed and got basically no real notable sleep...perhaps 20 minutes here and there. I've heard people say they haven't slept in months... --- Bells, bells, bells! <cite>TomNook posted [p:932191732] in I finally ... [t:78285632]...</cite> <quote>When people with insomnia say they didn't sleep, do they literally mean they didn't at all? 0 minutes of sleep? Or that they laid in bed and got basically no real notable sleep...perhaps 20 minutes here and there. I've heard people say they haven't slept in months... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WhiteLens 12/29/19 11:07:54 AM #17:	First, I'm gonna quote some stuff I said in a different topic since it's pretty related, but not all of it may apply to you. WhiteLens posted... if it's about racing thoughts, there are 2 things you can do. There's the mindfulness approach, where you just accept the thoughts that come in and don't react to them. You can't control what thoughts pop-up, but you can control how to react to them. It's best to acknowledge that thoughts are just thoughts, that they'll come and go if you let them do so without reacting to them. Trying to push thoughts away can lead to the thoughts coming back even stronger. The other approach is to get out of bed when you can't sleep, and do something that'll calm you down. This is particularly a good idea when your mind is really anxious because you don't want your body to associate your bed with anxiety and frustration. Just do something relaxing until you're sleepy or relaxed enough to go back to bed. What you do can really be anything, just keep in mind that the goal is to get you to relax, not fall asleep. Doing anything with the intention of getting you to sleep does the opposite and keeps you awake. Last piece of advice is to get up and out of bed at the same time. The only thing that really dictates you going to sleep is your own sleep drive, and the only thing that'll raise your sleep drive is being awake. Thus getting up at the same time gives you an anchor to start building your sleep drive. Ideally you should be going to bed at the same time, but you really only want to be going to bed when you're sleepy. Biggest thing to remember is that you can't force sleep to happen, and "trying" to sleep often does the opposite, keeping you awake. It's something that happens on its own, and good sleepers don't think anything about their sleep. Next, these have been my go to YouTube channels for dealing with insomnia https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_tdQDMQon0CfD0xAbZPNDg/videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL5LsLUeVA2j_Vsl5625shQ/videos They have a lot of videos, but it's mostly their early videos that explain CBTi. Most of their other videos is just them addressing common worries about insomnia, and sometimes they're repeating themselves. They're good to watch if you have some of those same worries. The nice thing about Daniel Erichsen, the guy in the first link, is that if you email him or leave a comment in any of his videos, he may respond in a new video with some advice for you. This is a new channel that I discovered fairly recently: https://www.youtube.com/user/steveorma/videos I'm actually familiar with the guy running it, I think it provides a good overview of the problems that caused insomnia and how to deal with it. There's also a chance that your local library has books on how to treat insomnia. You just have to make sure that it's a book about dealing with insomnia specifically, and not books on sleep in general. Because reading about all the negative effects from the lack of sleep when you're already having trouble with sleep is only gonna cause more anxiety and make sleep harder to get. (The famous book, Why We Sleep, is probably the biggest perpetrator for this) Something to keep in mind is that it can take awhile to see any effects, after all you're trying to reverse something you had for a decade. It does take a lot of persistent and consistent effort to get through it. None the less, I do hope you get past your insomnia. --- http://www.backloggery.com/whitelens \| https://myanimelist.net/profile/WhiteLens F/GO: 271551102; FFRK: 9k6d; FFBE: 886783216 <cite>WhiteLens posted [p:932194031] in I finally ... [t:78285632]...</cite> <quote>First, I'm gonna quote some stuff I said in a different topic since it's pretty related, but not all of it may apply to you. <quote><cite>WhiteLens posted... </cite> if it's about racing thoughts, there are 2 things you can do. There's the mindfulness approach, where you just accept the thoughts that come in and don't react to them. You can't control what thoughts pop-up, but you can control how to react to them. It's best to acknowledge that thoughts are just thoughts, that they'll come and go if you let them do so without reacting to them. Trying to push thoughts away can lead to the thoughts coming back even stronger. The other approach is to get out of bed when you can't sleep, and do something that'll calm you down. This is particularly a good idea when your mind is really anxious because you don't want your body to associate your bed with anxiety and frustration. Just do something relaxing until you're sleepy or relaxed enough to go back to bed. What you do can really be anything, just keep in mind that the goal is to get you to relax, not fall asleep. Doing anything with the intention of getting you to sleep does the opposite and keeps you awake. Last piece of advice is to get up and out of bed at the same time. The only thing that really dictates you going to sleep is your own sleep drive, and the only thing that'll raise your sleep drive is being awake. Thus getting up at the same time gives you an anchor to start building your sleep drive. Ideally you should be going to bed at the same time, but you really only want to be going to bed when you're sleepy. Biggest thing to remember is that you can't force sleep to happen, and "trying" to sleep often does the opposite, keeping you awake. It's something that happens on its own, and good sleepers don't think anything about their sleep.</quote> Next, these have been my go to YouTube channels for dealing with insomnia https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_tdQDMQon0CfD0xAbZPNDg/videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL5LsLUeVA2j_Vsl5625shQ/videos They have a lot of videos, but it's mostly their early videos that explain CBTi. Most of their other videos is just them addressing common worries about insomnia, and sometimes they're repeating themselves. They're good to watch if you have some of those same worries. The nice thing about Daniel Erichsen, the guy in the first link, is that if you email him or leave a comment in any of his videos, he may respond in a new video with some advice for you. This is a new channel that I discovered fairly recently: https://www.youtube.com/user/steveorma/videos I'm actually familiar with the guy running it, I think it provides a good overview of the problems that caused insomnia and how to deal with it. There's also a chance that your local library has books on how to treat insomnia. You just have to make sure that it's a book about dealing with insomnia specifically, and not books on sleep in general. Because reading about all the negative effects from the lack of sleep when you're already having trouble with sleep is only gonna cause more anxiety and make sleep harder to get. (The famous book, Why We Sleep, is probably the biggest perpetrator for this) Something to keep in mind is that it can take awhile to see any effects, after all you're trying to reverse something you had for a decade. It does take a lot of persistent and consistent effort to get through it. None the less, I do hope you get past your insomnia. </quote> ... 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trdl23 12/30/19 2:17:11 AM #18:	TomNook posted... When people with insomnia say they didn't sleep, do they literally mean they didn't at all? 0 minutes of sleep? Or that they laid in bed and got basically no real notable sleep...perhaps 20 minutes here and there. I've heard people say they haven't slept in months... In my case, it's often the former, and the latter if I'm lucky. --- E come vivo? Vivo! <cite>trdl23 posted [p:932226841] in I finally ... [t:78285632]...</cite> <quote>TomNook posted... </cite> <quote>When people with insomnia say they didn't sleep, do they literally mean they didn't at all? 0 minutes of sleep? Or that they laid in bed and got basically no real notable sleep...perhaps 20 minutes here and there. I've heard people say they haven't slept in months...</quote>In my case, it's often the former, and the latter if I'm lucky. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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