Current Events > So how's the protest against Pokemon SS going these days?

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Still hoping GF will go bankrupt? Still thinking all of the people who bought and enjoyed the game are "blind"? Not going to buy anymore Pokemon games anymore? Gonna spread the gospel about how horrible GF and Pokemon still is? How's the protest going? Surely you haven't lost your conviction.

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I see people talk about how mediocre SS is all the time. But why make noise? The sales are already in, there's nothing to do except hope the next one is vastly improved (which is highly unlikely).

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Well, if you're hoping for a GTA5 or Skyrim version of Pokemon then you're gonna be let down, and honestly that's a very high expectation therefore unreasonable.

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@SwayM @Guide

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my hunger strike continues

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Pretty much dead at this point, which I find funny. Yes, dexit is a real legitimate concern, but the rest of the game is honestly really good. I finished the regular game + postgame story in about 40 hours, which is alright by my standards, but still hilariously better than those going like REEEEEE 15 HOUR STORY

I'm about 75 hours in now going for dex completion.

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Nah I'm hoping for a better than 3DS version. For every improvement you can list at least one direct down grade (and most likely more than one) from SuMo, which is kinda mind blowing.

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It's dead. The game is a huge success and Gamefreak will continue being lazy.

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PatrickMahomes posted...

Pretty much dead at this point, which I find funny

It's funny because the haters seemed pretty fucking convinced of themselves about their protest. It all just spells the same thing to me about gamers as it always had: Fake outrage about something new

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I'm bored of the subject because it's already been out, you know? Sales are done, game is still bad, hype is over, not enough people care to fight about it anymore, and you're not good enough at arguing to be worth reviving the argument.

Also:



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Veggeta_MAX posted...

Not going to buy anymore Pokemon games anymore?

That was the idea, yeah. Not exactly a difficult thing to do either.

If I don't care for a product, I don't buy it. Easy as that, and it's not the first series I've done it with (nor will it be the last).
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Guide posted...

I'm bored of the subject because it's already been out, you know? Sales are done, game is still bad, hype is over, not enough people care to fight about it anymore, and you're not good enough at arguing to be worth reviving the argument.

I'm leaning towards you were just being irrational in your hate much like a lot of other people's. I mean, IIRC you even admitted to something like that and for you to just stop fighting the "good fight" pretty much tells all. It's fine to have blind hate because there's gonna be blind love as well. My question is why get mad at being called out something you already know what you are?

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The Catgirl Fondler posted...

That was the idea, yeah. Not exactly a difficult thing to do either.

If I don't care for a product, I don't buy it. Easy as that, and it's not the first series I've done it with (nor will it be the last).

I wish more people held your conviction.

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Veggeta_MAX posted...

Guide posted...

I'm bored of the subject because it's already been out, you know? Sales are done, game is still bad, hype is over, not enough people care to fight about it anymore, and you're not good enough at arguing to be worth reviving the argument.

I'm leaning towards you were just being irrational in your hate much like a lot of other people's. I mean, IIRC you even admitted to something like that and for you to just stop fighting the "good fight" pretty much tells all. It's fine to have blind hate because there's gonna be blind love as well. My question is why get mad at being called out something you already know what you are?

It isnt irrational to want games to be good.
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Not when your definition of wanting to go be good is extreme. But I'm sure what you think is good is fair and not asking for too much at all.

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Veggeta_MAX posted...

I'm leaning towards you were just being irrational in your hate much like a lot of other people's. I mean, IIRC you even admitted to something like that and for you to just stop fighting the "good fight" pretty much tells all. It's fine to have blind hate because there's gonna be blind love as well. My question is why get mad at being called out something you already know what you are?

Your question is built upon false premise, though. Like, you were already proven wrong ages ago, your statements are false. I don't know what you want me to say. Your post is a longwinded equivalent of that old schoolyard prank:

"Are you gay? Does your mother know you're gay?"

Which is about your level.

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Well, you should probably get off that high horse of yours because it doesn't suit you like at all. And are you really going the "What you're saying is fake about me" path? Which wouldn't surprise me.

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I am, because it's true. So what brought this about? Did you just recently clear out your ignore list for the holidays and remember my username?

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I remember you going above and beyond with your hate towards the game like so many others. I called you out on it along with many others too but of course it's really simple and convenient for you to simply deny this against you huh?. I just hope the grudge is gone.

And I don't block/ignore people. I call out everyone the same so don't hope you're too special.

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Pokemon died in my eyes :(

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Okay, but what brought this up? In a random topic? When we've been posting in the same topics for months without issue otherwise? You came to me. And it's not that I'm denying anything. You were just wrong.

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If it makes you feel any better I have called out many people for many things in random topics. It's just the mood I'm in.

And agree to disagree on you being the irrational Pokemon SS hater.

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I'm waiting for a definitive version or a price drop. Within a year Let's Go went down 50%, and at the moment I can buy better things.

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Veggeta_MAX posted...

If it makes you feel any better I have called out many people for many things in random topics. It's just the mood I'm in.

And agree to disagree on you being the irrational Pokemon SS hater.

See, that's another thing very typical of people weak at argument: "Agree to disagree." Anyone with even the slightest hint of understanding of any degree of formal logic already recognizes this as the mental equivalent of a tramp stamp.

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You're not gonna change your mind and I'm not gonna change my mind. Other than your delusional act of superiority, why bother anymore?

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Ask yourself, you came to me.

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You keep thinking this is exclusively for you. Didn't I tell you to get off your high horse?

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I didn't say it was just about me, just that you came to me. Which you did. There's that reading comprehension.

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I think it is a great Pokmon game and in my top 3 generations most likely. I think I only liked Sinnoh and Hoenn more. I really disliked Sun and Moon but SS is a big improvement for me personally.

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Guide posted...

I didn't say it was just about me, just that you came to me. Which you did. There's that reading comprehension.

Same reason why I made this topic for many others?

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Look dude you should prolly stop posting ITT if you aren't gonna talk about your crusade against the game.

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Veggeta_MAX posted...

Same reason why I made this topic for many others?

This doesn't follow from my statement. You're not making sense because you're riled up.

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Well that's quite the accusation. It seems you still hold the grudge no doubt.

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Veggeta_MAX posted...

Well that's quite the accusation. It seems you still hold the grudge no doubt.

No, it's an observation. Let me help you to observe:

What is the context of

Same reason why I made this topic for many others?

in response to

I didn't say it was just about me, just that you came to me. Which you did. There's that reading comprehension.

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I did not post a question for you to respond to, or anything about a reason. Thus, there is no connection.

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I forget you try real hard to be a spin doctor. All this because I'm calling you and your type over blind hate over Pokemon SS? Now imagine if you'd just stuck with that instead of doing whatever is you think you're doing. Are you sure I'm the one who is riled up? Oh, not saying you are. I'm just observing it.

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The people protesting arent enough. Game sold extremely well, GameFreak will continue to make the watered down, absurdly brain dead main game and continue to be lazy and do the bare minimum. People that want Pokmon will have to play the games they spit out regardless because thats all were going to get. Also game is fine. The problem is that they were supposed to be the best ones yet being the first home console game yet they were just the same as the past 2.

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I'm not spinning anything, though. I'm just showing why you're not making sense. You are free, and encouraged to, dissect my statement and show what's wrong with it.

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Rikiaz posted...

The people protesting arent enough. Game sold extremely well, GameFreak will continue to make the watered down, absurdly brain dead main game and continue to be lazy and do the bare minimum. People that want Pokmon will have to play the games they spit out regardless because thats all were going to get.

Or maybe the game truly isn't as bad as you guys made it to be?

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Its a good game and it has sold really well. Its just a bunch of crybabies whining because Pidgey got cut.

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Ah, I'll be back in about half an hour, try to come up with a good argument in that time.

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Guide posted...

I'm not spinning anything, though. I'm just showing why you're not making sense. You are free, and encouraged to, dissect my statement and show what's wrong with it.

You should stick to the point of the topic. Derailing is not only against the ToS but also telling about what kind of person you are. Not spinning anything but don't want to talk about Pokemon SS sheesh.

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Veggeta_MAX posted...

Well, if you're hoping for a GTA5 or Skyrim version of Pokemon then you're gonna be let down, and honestly that's a very high expectation therefore unreasonable.

My expectations were that it was at least as good as USUM (which was somewhat lackluster already), it didn't meet them

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Veggeta_MAX posted...

Or maybe the game truly isn't as bad as you guys made it to be?

@Veggeta_MAX Sorry I put an edit seconds before you applied. Also game is fine. The problem is that they were supposed to be the best ones yet being the first home console game yet they were just the same as the past 2.

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Guide posted...

Ah, I'll be back in about half an hour, try to come up with a good argument in that time.

There's no argument here anymore. I claim you were like many other who blindly hated Pokemon SS. You said you weren't. That was that and then you wanted to make this a contextual debate of nothing. I'd say you're riled up. I mean, observably you are.

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Rikiaz posted...

@Veggeta_MAX Sorry I put an edit seconds before you applied. Also game is fine. The problem is that they were supposed to be the best ones yet being the first home console game yet they were just the same as the past 2.

I didn't think the game was gonna be any different, more or less than previous Pokemon games. They've been all been mostly similar with each other and that's what I went in thinking even for a Home Console.

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Gamers are the worst at protesting and will drop all of their ideals for the next shiny new toy.

Remember how we were all hoping that Blizzcon would be full of Winnie the Pooh cosplayers?

Remember when that all ended up as nothing because zomg Diablo 4 and Overwatch 2!!!!?

Kami_no_Kami posted...

Gamers are the worst at protesting and will drop all of their ideals for the next shiny new toy.

Remember how we were all hoping that Blizzcon would be full of Winnie the Pooh cosplayers?

Remember when that all ended up as nothing because zomg Diablo 4 and Overwatch 2!!!!?

Yes I love calling out these kind of people. They get so offended when their outed. Honestly they need to be shamed on more.

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Veggeta_MAX posted...

I didn't think the game was gonna be any different, more or less than previous Pokemon games. They've been all been mostly similar with each other and that's what I went in thinking even for a Home Console.

Yeah pretty much. It was hyped up as being different though. After Lets Go came out, GameFreak said things like the next core Pokmon rpg is made with veterans in mind which are absolutely not true. Their is no veteran fanservice in the game with things like its straight hallway routes, lack of any exploratio, always on EXP Share, and nearly complete lack of difficulty or postgame.

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PatrickMahomes posted...

. I finished the regular game + postgame story in about 40 hours, which is alright by my standards, but still hilariously better than those going like REEEEEE 15 HOUR STORY

You avoiding the main story doesn't make it a 40 hour game, that's like claiming Mario 64 is a 100 hour game because you walked around the castle instead of completing levels

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Don't bother with him, Veggeta. You're wasting your time essentially talking to a brick wall.