Current Events > Another pit bull kills their owner

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/massachusetts-woman-mauled-death-dog-suffering-seizure

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sad

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I'm glad they're banned in Ontario

more cops needed

The dog attacked while she was having a seizure too. That's just depressing.

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MarthGoomba posted...

I'm glad they're banned in Ontario

And how many loyal and loving pitbulls are there out there?

Isn't it wrong to hate an entire "breed" when there's only a few bad apples? That's what we're brought up to believe right?

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What a shit dog. Wtf

A good dog would get help. Not kill her. Clearly this dog was a psychopath

Goddamn

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Lol, a dog did what the breed was bred for. Pit bulls ain't cuddly dogs who love to be part of the family unit. They have hardwired instincts. Now let's see another breed, a Chihuahua do this. They can be aggressive too but nowhere near as damaging as a pit bull because of the size. Ban pit bulls, make them illegal to own. End of conversation.

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KillerKhan420 posted...

Ban pit bulls, make them illegal to own. End of conversation.

they truly are vicious

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KillerKhan420 posted...

Lol, a dog did what the breed was bred for. Pit bulls ain't cuddly dogs who love to be part of the family unit. They have hardwired instincts. Now let's see another breed, a Chihuahua do this. They can be aggressive too but nowhere near as damaging as a pit bull because of the size. Ban pit bulls, make them illegal to own. End of conversation.

Decent satire, if maybe a little over the top. 8/10

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People need to stop saying "its not the dog its the owner"...Yes, some people can raise a dog to be meaner or kinder, but that doesn't change the fact that its still an animal with its own instincts, and this particular breed is an instinctual attacker. I'm not saying ban them, but get one at your own risk and don't keep spreading that "its how you raise them" stuff....because you can raise them to be nice and a family dog but the moment it gets nervous or something sets it off its going to attack and forget all the "nice teachings" you gave it..Kinda like Chimps, and they're even more human like than a dog. People have owned them, they raise them, for the most part the chimps are usually fine with their owner and are able to live just fine...until something sets it off and its animal instinctive side kicks in. Like that one 911 call from a woman who owned a chimp that got scared and ripped the face off of her friend. Not even the owner could calm it down and even she knew the only way to stop it was to kill it.

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hating pitbulls is the same logic racists use tbh

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KillerKhan420 posted...

Lol, a dog did what the breed was bred for. Pit bulls ain't cuddly dogs who love to be part of the family unit. They have hardwired instincts. Now let's see another breed, a Chihuahua do this. They can be aggressive too but nowhere near as damaging as a pit bull because of the size. Ban pit bulls, make them illegal to own. End of conversation.

Pit bulls are bred specifically away from aggression toward humans.

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andel posted...

hating pitbulls is the same logic racists use tbh

No it's not. They are the most violent dogs

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vigorm0rtis posted...

Pit bulls are bred specifically away from aggression toward humans.

true. i had a seizure last year around june and my dog didn't attack me. i can trust her around most people she's either neutral or friendly. it's dogs i can't trust around her (very unpredictable).

than again she isn't a pure. only half pit.
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TheVipaGTS posted...

People need to stop saying "its not the dog its the owner"...Yes, some people can raise a dog to be meaner or kinder, but that doesn't change the fact that its still an animal with its own instincts, and this particular breed is an instinctual attacker. I'm not saying ban them, but get one at your own risk and don't keep spreading that "its how you raise them" stuff....because you can raise them to be nice and a family dog but the moment it gets nervous or something sets it off its going to attack and forget all the "nice teachings" you gave it..Kinda like Chimps, and they're even more human like than a dog. People have owned them, they raise them, for the most part the chimps are usually fine with their owner and are able to live just fine...until something sets it off and its animal instinctive side kicks in. Like that one 911 call from a woman who owned a chimp that got scared and ripped the face off of her friend. Not even the owner could calm it down and even she knew the only way to stop it was to kill it.

You could slap a scientific study over this agreeing with you, and people would still defend the breed saying the same tired shit as usual, animal fanatics are a detriment.

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MarthGoomba posted...

I'm glad they're banned in Ontario

I wish they kept the ban in my city

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BlockAddition posted...

And how many loyal and loving pitbulls are there out there?

Isn't it wrong to hate an entire "breed" when there's only a few bad apples? That's what we're brought up to believe right?

No

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*sigh*

BlockAddition posted...

And how many loyal and loving pitbulls are there out there?

Isn't it wrong to hate an entire "breed" when there's only a few bad apples? That's what we're brought up to believe right?

You're comparing a breed of dog to a the entire human race? Yea, as humans, our actions and how we do things are generally determined by our upbringing, culture, and where we live...But instinctively all humans generally will have the same animalistic instincts. But in a case like this, i highly doubt a golden retriever sees its owner having a seizure and instinctively attacks it to death...That's more of a Pitbull thing throughout history.

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I hope they give the pit bull another chance - take it, train it right and give it to someone else

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I thought they only attacked babies

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Lots of armchair canine behaviorists ITT

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Cookie Bag posted...

You could slap a scientific study over this agreeing with you, and people would still defend the breed saying the same tired shit as usual, animal fanatics are a detriment.

Likely because a "scientific study" wouldn't entirely agree with him.

Pit bulls don't actually account for most bites-- they're not even in the top 20. Toy dogs bite most often, followed by labs and goldens. The problem is that when pit bulls bite, they do a lot of damage. This isn't actually related to aggression in their nature (see: why your imaginary scientific study doesn't exist), it's because they've been bred with a quality called "gameness." Feel free to look it up.

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PIITB415 posted...

No it's not. They are the most violent dogs

ok boomer

If only she had a gun

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Cookie Bag posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

People need to stop saying "its not the dog its the owner"...Yes, some people can raise a dog to be meaner or kinder, but that doesn't change the fact that its still an animal with its own instincts, and this particular breed is an instinctual attacker. I'm not saying ban them, but get one at your own risk and don't keep spreading that "its how you raise them" stuff....because you can raise them to be nice and a family dog but the moment it gets nervous or something sets it off its going to attack and forget all the "nice teachings" you gave it..Kinda like Chimps, and they're even more human like than a dog. People have owned them, they raise them, for the most part the chimps are usually fine with their owner and are able to live just fine...until something sets it off and its animal instinctive side kicks in. Like that one 911 call from a woman who owned a chimp that got scared and ripped the face off of her friend. Not even the owner could calm it down and even she knew the only way to stop it was to kill it.

You could slap a scientific study over this agreeing with you, and people would still defend the breed saying the same tired shit as usual, animal fanatics are a detriment.

Unfortunately for this argument, the science doesn't always agree with you.

A study of dog bite related fatalities from 2000-2009 did not find breed to be a major factor:

https://avmajournals.avma.org/doi/abs/10.2460/javma.243.12.1726

"Pit bull" isn't even a breed, so when you talk about them being a dangerous breed, are you referring to an American pit bull terrier, American Staffordshire terrier, a Staffordshire bull terrier? If you wanna talk scientific accuracy, you need to be specific.

On top of that, "pit bulls" as we know them are bred specifically against biting humans, as that's not considered a good trait when be used as a fighting dog. This does lead to a tendency toward aggression with other dogs though

https://pets.webmd.com/dogs/features/pit-bulls-safety
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PIITB415 posted...

No it's not. They are the most violent dogs

nah, they arent. again, that is the same logic racists use

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MarqueeSeries posted...

Unfortunately for this argument, the science doesn't always agree with you.

A study of dog bite related fatalities from 2000-2009 did not find breed to be a major factor:

https://avmajournals.avma.org/doi/abs/10.2460/javma.243.12.1726

"Pit bull" isn't even a breed, so when you talk about them being a dangerous breed, are you referring to an American pit bull terrier, American Staffordshire terrier, a Staffordshire bull terrier? If you wanna talk scientific accuracy, you need to be specific.

On top of that, "pit bulls" as we know them are bred specifically against biting humans, as that's not considered a good trait when be used as a fighting dog. This does lead to a tendency toward aggression with other dogs though

https://pets.webmd.com/dogs/features/pit-bulls-safety

The only real Pit Bull is the American Pit Bull Terrier. If those pedigree papers don't have lineages of historic pit fighting dogs then it's not a Pit Bull. Most of these curs and man biters are bully breed mixes and mutts.

Most people can't ID a Pit Bull as is, and using the term "pit bull" as a catchall term to describe four different breeds with very different breed standards just adds to the confusion. All of them have been separate long enough to be different breeds.

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Pit bulls arent inherently violent dogs, but they ARE built to do damage in a way that other dogs arent, so when they do have training issues, theyre much more dangerous than other breeds

you dont hear stories about golden retrievers like this because gold retrievers just physically cant cause as much injury as a pit bull

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adab

As long as it's the owner and not an innocent random person.
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eggcorn posted...

As long as it's the owner and not an innocent random person.

out of all the options. it's acceptable.
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Another nanny dog attack? Say it aint so.

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TheVipaGTS posted...

until something sets it off and its animal instinctive side kicks in. Like that one 911 call from a woman who owned a chimp that got scared and ripped the face off of her friend. Not even the owner could calm it down and even she knew the only way to stop it was to kill it.

This is a pretty terrible comparison Vipey. Dogs are the oldest domesticated animal in human history. Chimps have never been domesticated. You'd need to compared domesticated animals for a fair equivalent.

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It always seems to be women. And sadly I know why. My girl says pitbulls are the sweetest, kindest dogs that have just been given a bad rap. And I try to argue with her on how dangerous pitbulls are and she doesn't want to hear it because she knows what she knows.

I'm guessing all those women mauled by their own pitbulls have the exact same thinking as her. When it comes to dogs, logic > emotions.

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Yadoken posted...

It always seems to be women. And sadly I know why. My girl says pitbulls are the sweetest, kindest dogs that have just been given a bad rap. And I try to argue with her on how dangerous pitbulls are and she doesn't want to hear it because she knows what she knows.

I'm guessing all those women mauled by their own pitbulls have the exact same thinking as her. When it comes to dogs, logic > emotions.

This is probably some of the shakiest logic imaginable
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BilalPowell posted...

If only she had a gun

if only she had a dog... oh wait.

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We shouldn't ban pit bulls because they are "aggressive".

We should ban pit bulls because they are ugly.
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Ughh, I'm so sick of hearing these stories.

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Kids have killed their parents too. Ban all kids because of those few bad apples that weren't raised properly.

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MarqueeSeries posted...

This is probably some of the shakiest logic imaginable

I don't even know how that falls into the category of logic. None of that puts women in situations that men aren't in. My pitbull sleeps in my bed.

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MarthGoomba posted...

I'm glad they're banned in Ontario

You guys really like demonizing dogs huh?

A lot of pit bulls are nice dogs that wouldn't hurt a fly

Source - My friend has one. He's one of the sweetest dogs I have ever had the pleasure of being around. He's a big baby.

TheVipaGTS posted...

People need to stop saying "its not the dog its the owner"...Yes, some people can raise a dog to be meaner or kinder, but that doesn't change the fact that its still an animal with its own instincts, and this particular breed is an instinctual attacker. I'm not saying ban them, but get one at your own risk and don't keep spreading that "its how you raise them" stuff....because you can raise them to be nice and a family dog but the moment it gets nervous or something sets it off its going to attack and forget all the "nice teachings" you gave it..Kinda like Chimps, and they're even more human like than a dog. People have owned them, they raise them, for the most part the chimps are usually fine with their owner and are able to live just fine...until something sets it off and its animal instinctive side kicks in. Like that one 911 call from a woman who owned a chimp that got scared and ripped the face off of her friend. Not even the owner could calm it down and even she knew the only way to stop it was to kill it.

tbh, the "it's not the dog, it's the owner" argument is even an stronger reason to ban them or require special handlers' licenses.

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I like you Vipa, you're one of the more sensible people around here. But I don't believe none of that shit you just said lol. Probably cause my dog is such the polar opposite of your theory. I might be bias of the overall chances of that, but if you're expecting that Im just turning a blind eye and clouded by personal connection. You're wrong. I've never had anyone that I didn't think had suspicious behavior at some point, regardless of how much I love and respect them. My homie is just such a pussy. When we wrestle or anything close to it. If I even show the smallest sign of getting hurt, he immediately stops, looks extremely guilty and pathetic and either hides or tries to lay up against me in a defenseless and compromised position. If you think Im being manipulated by a dog, it is what it is tho. This was just his nature btw. I rarely ever punished him. He always had free roam of the house at all times.

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