Current Events > Was The Last Jedi really a "subversive Star Wars" movie?

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Kitt
12/20/19 8:56:49 AM
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The way I've always saw it; it subverted things we were expecting from a sequel to The Force Awakens, but at the end of it all, the movie was still a paint by numbers Star Wars movie.

Hell, the movie itself even straights up tell you that this franchise have a particular formula that it's going to be regurgitating for years to come.
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EvenSpoonier
12/20/19 9:07:44 AM
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No, it wasn't. That's just something the toxics like to say because they can't handle all their theories being wrong.

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lilORANG
12/20/19 9:08:07 AM
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No. It was boring and safe and ended exactly where it started. After all the so called subversion, we're still left with a ragtag group of rebels fighting an empire, rey is light side, kylo is dark side, Luke isn't in the picture, and significant characters like Finn get 0 development. That's not subversion, that's the film equivalent of treading water.
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CyricZ
12/20/19 9:10:39 AM
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It did some interesting stuff and had some ideas but ultimately didn't follow through on a lot of what it could have.

Oh well. Still interested to see what Rian Johnson can do with his own thing.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
12/20/19 9:30:24 AM
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It would be had Episode 9 continued on with a lot of its themes.

From the sounds of it that did not happen... so, no.

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IShall_Run_Amok
12/20/19 9:33:01 AM
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I don't think anything is more sincerely subversive in a recent Hollywood movie than absolutely creaming the villain with non-violence, self-sacrifice, hope and faith shit, and also literally apologizing to the guy, but that might say more about mainstream movie going and our low expectations for it than it does about the movie.

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