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Purely 12/18/19 7:11:25 PM #1:	Who can forget this classic bit? https://youtu.be/xHmyKksPois Obama telling Medvedev after the election he'll have more flexibility. Impeachable offense under these rules they've now set up. Shame that I had to make a new topic to say this. This is how the left seems to be the majority online. You don't allow conversations. Call it trolling, ban everyone that speaks up. Pathetic. <cite>Purely posted [p:931770607] in Flashback:... [t:78265528]...</cite> <quote>Who can forget this classic bit? https://youtu.be/xHmyKksPois Obama telling Medvedev after the election he'll have more flexibility. Impeachable offense under these rules they've now set up. Shame that I had to make a new topic to say this. This is how the left seems to be the majority online. You don't allow conversations. Call it trolling, ban everyone that speaks up. Pathetic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maze_ 12/18/19 7:14:28 PM #2:	So where in that clip did he refuse to send $500 million of military aid to a nation and then say he would release it if they dug up dirt on Mitt Romney's son? No one is mad Trump talked to Ukraine dude, they're mad he commited treason. --- When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner. "Your mustache is crooked" ~ R.I.P Randy Savage. <cite>Maze_ posted [p:931770717] in Flashback:... [t:78265528]...</cite> <quote>So where in that clip did he refuse to send $500 million of military aid to a nation and then say he would release it if they dug up dirt on Mitt Romney's son? No one is mad Trump talked to Ukraine dude, they're mad he commited treason. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 12/18/19 7:15:40 PM #3:	Conservashills fucking shook --- https://imgur.com/MS5SvzN Take better care of your teeth and f***, a lot more. <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:931770772] in Flashback:... [t:78265528]...</cite> <quote> Conservashills fucking shook </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kazi1212 12/18/19 7:15:50 PM #4:	Imagine thinking you couldnt find impeachable conduct for every prez. --- My mind is an open book, do you find it entertaining? At least be original in your responses then. "Don't call me a God, call me a Sadist" <cite>Kazi1212 posted [p:931770783] in Flashback:... [t:78265528]...</cite> <quote>Imagine thinking you couldnt find impeachable conduct for every prez. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KFHEWUI 12/18/19 7:20:21 PM #5:	Maze_ posted... So where in that clip did he refuse to send $500 million of military aid to a nation and then say he would release it if they dug up dirt on Mitt Romney's son? . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY I mean Biden was Vice President when he did that. --- R.I.P. SaikyoMog! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-seAIeu3Og "If fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism" Ronald Reagan <cite>KFHEWUI posted [p:931770989] in Flashback:... [t:78265528]...</cite> <quote>Maze_ posted... </cite> <quote>So where in that clip did he refuse to send $500 million of military aid to a nation and then say he would release it if they dug up dirt on Mitt Romney's son?</quote>. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY I mean Biden was Vice President when he did that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Purely 12/18/19 7:21:23 PM #6:	Maze_ posted... So where in that clip did he refuse to send $500 million of military aid to a nation and then say he would release it if they dug up dirt on Mitt Romney's son? No one is mad Trump talked to Ukraine dude, they're mad he commited treason. He never committed treason. Get real, dude. Trump's thing the whole time has been if we're giving a foreign country aid, they should be doing something to benefit us. That's how he negotiates. It's not private corruption and it's certainly not treason. It's laughable to call it treason. The things he does are to help the country, not hurt it. The economy is doing gangbusters because of his policies. <cite>Purely posted [p:931771035] in Flashback:... [t:78265528]...</cite> <quote>Maze_ posted... </cite> <quote>So where in that clip did he refuse to send $500 million of military aid to a nation and then say he would release it if they dug up dirt on Mitt Romney's son? No one is mad Trump talked to Ukraine dude, they're mad he commited treason.</quote> He never committed treason. Get real, dude. Trump's thing the whole time has been if we're giving a foreign country aid, they should be doing something to benefit us. That's how he negotiates. It's not private corruption and it's certainly not treason. It's laughable to call it treason. The things he does are to help the country, not hurt it. The economy is doing gangbusters because of his policies. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Super Saiyan 3 Goku 12/18/19 7:21:49 PM #7:	Well, I dunno. Did Obama hold up some military aid and ask Medvedev for a favor to investigate Romney? --- When it is obvious that the goals cannot be reached, don't adjust the goals, adjust the action steps. - Confucius <cite>Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted [p:931771049] in Flashback:... [t:78265528]...</cite> <quote>Well, I dunno. Did Obama hold up some military aid and ask Medvedev for a favor to investigate Romney? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maze_ 12/18/19 7:28:13 PM #8:	Purely posted... He never committed treason. Yes he did Get real, dude. Trump's thing the whole time has been if we're giving a foreign country aid, they should be doing something to benefit us. That's how he negotiates. That money had already been approved. It's not up to Trump to "negotiate" a thing. Reopening bullshit investigations to smear political opponents during elections doesn't benefit "us" it benefits Trump. That's why it's treason. It's personal gain not the interest of the nation. It's not private corruption and it's certainly not treason. It's laughable to call it treason. Just saying "Its not" over and over doesn't make it true. It's absolutely treason to conspire with other governments for personal gain against the interests of your nation. Trump had no right to block that aid (Something neither him nor his defenders can find an explanation that justifies doing it) to begin with and absolutely no right to try to use it blackmail other leaders into smearing his rivals The things he does are to help the country, not hurt it. The economy is doing gangbusters because of his policies. How good the economy is doing is utterly irrelevant to his treason --- When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner. "Your mustache is crooked" ~ R.I.P Randy Savage. <cite>Maze_ posted [p:931771303] in Flashback:... [t:78265528]...</cite> <quote>Purely posted... </cite> <quote> He never committed treason. </quote> Yes he did <quote> Get real, dude. Trump's thing the whole time has been if we're giving a foreign country aid, they should be doing something to benefit us. That's how he negotiates. </quote> That money had already been approved. It's not up to Trump to "negotiate" a thing. Reopening bullshit investigations to smear political opponents during elections doesn't benefit "us" it benefits Trump. That's why it's treason. It's personal gain not the interest of the nation.<quote> It's not private corruption and it's certainly not treason. It's laughable to call it treason.</quote> Just saying "Its not" over and over doesn't make it true. It's absolutely treason to conspire with other governments for personal gain against the interests of your nation. Trump had no right to block that aid (Something neither him nor his defenders can find an explanation that justifies doing it) to begin with and absolutely no right to try to use it blackmail other leaders into smearing his rivals <quote> The things he does are to help the country, not hurt it. The economy is doing gangbusters because of his policies. </quote> How good the economy is doing is utterly irrelevant to his treason </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 12/18/19 7:30:11 PM #9:	Purely posted... Trump's thing the whole time has been if we're giving a foreign country aid, they should be doing something to benefit us. But Trump said he did nothing illegal and never wanted quid pro quo. Now it's his way of working and great for the country? Are you a Trump staffer with this doublethink? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:931771374] in Flashback:... [t:78265528]...</cite> <quote>Purely posted... </cite> <quote>Trump's thing the whole time has been if we're giving a foreign country aid, they should be doing something to benefit us.</quote>But Trump said he did nothing illegal and never wanted quid pro quo. Now it's his way of working and great for the country? Are you a Trump staffer with this doublethink? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 12/18/19 7:33:13 PM #10:	we should impeach obama. why isnt anyone doing anything? --- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:931771490] in Flashback:... [t:78265528]...</cite> <quote>we should impeach obama. why isnt anyone doing anything? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cmiller4642 12/18/19 7:33:47 PM #11:	Ok boomer Check out your messiah https://twitter.com/wolfblitzer/status/1207375509698596867 <cite>cmiller4642 posted [p:931771514] in Flashback:... [t:78265528]...</cite> <quote>Ok boomer Check out your messiah https://twitter.com/wolfblitzer/status/1207375509698596867 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 12/18/19 7:35:01 PM #12:	so now the conservative excuse is "BUT EVERYONE ELSE DOES IT SO ITS NOT BAD ANYMORE"..lmao...it went from "he never did it" to "everyone else did it!" with examples of people not doing what Trump did. Good job guys. really good defense. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:931771585] in Flashback:... [t:78265528]...</cite> <quote>so now the conservative excuse is "BUT EVERYONE ELSE DOES IT SO ITS NOT BAD ANYMORE"..lmao...it went from "he never did it" to "everyone else did it!" with examples of people not doing what Trump did. Good job guys. really good defense. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 12/18/19 7:35:46 PM #13:	TC really wants us to ignore Trump impeachment. Almost like it's looking really bad for him. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:931771609] in Flashback:... [t:78265528]...</cite> <quote>TC really wants us to ignore Trump impeachment. Almost like it's looking really bad for him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KINDERFELD 12/18/19 7:50:36 PM #15:	TC you're only pretending to not be smart right? --- the polyfilla way look strong in the weakness of the gaps <cite>KINDERFELD posted [p:931772121] in Flashback:... [t:78265528]...</cite> <quote>TC you're only pretending to not be smart right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maze_ 12/18/19 7:52:48 PM #16:	Mr Hangman posted... It's not treason, it's personal corruption and abuse of power. And in this specific context the personal corruption and power abuse was treasonous. Funneling US taxes into your own businsesses is an abuse of power. Withholding senate approved foreign aid to make other world leaders dig up dirt on your rivals to try and tarnish them to make it easier to be elected is treason. <quote>Hyperbolic use of the word treason just makes you look unserious and then people not inclined already to agree with you will not lend you any credibility. </quote> Not my fault if you choose to ignore reality. "WE won't agree with you unless you lie" isn't a stance I want to adopt. Trump commited treason. Defending him is pretty crazy and it makes me sad that people claiming to be conservatives do so. They should be the outraged ones. --- When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner. "Your mustache is crooked" ~ R.I.P Randy Savage. <cite>Maze_ posted [p:931772207] in Flashback:... [t:78265528]...</cite> <quote>Mr Hangman posted... </cite> <quote>It's not treason, it's personal corruption and abuse of power.</quote> And in this specific context the personal corruption and power abuse was treasonous. Funneling US taxes into your own businsesses is an abuse of power. Withholding senate approved foreign aid to make other world leaders dig up dirt on your rivals to try and tarnish them to make it easier to be elected is treason. <quote>Hyperbolic use of the word treason just makes you look unserious and then people not inclined already to agree with you will not lend you any credibility. </quote> Not my fault if you choose to ignore reality. "WE won't agree with you unless you lie" isn't a stance I want to adopt. Trump commited treason. Defending him is pretty crazy and it makes me sad that people claiming to be conservatives do so. They should be the outraged ones. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shinobi120 12/18/19 7:57:49 PM #17:	Purely posted... This is how the left seems to be the majority online. You don't allow conversations. Call it trolling, ban everyone that speaks up. Pathetic. Wrong. People like me get on you conservative, right-wing trolls because people like you love to troll by instigating/antagonizing posters by saying a lot of ignorant, dumb bullshit. As long as you folks keep doing that, you will continue to get called out, modded & will continue to get suspended or even banned. --- November 8th, 2016 was the day that became a HUGE nightmare for America & the rest of the world once Donald Trump was elected president. <cite>Shinobi120 posted [p:931772372] in Flashback:... [t:78265528]...</cite> <quote>Purely posted... </cite> <quote>This is how the left seems to be the majority online. You don't allow conversations. Call it trolling, ban everyone that speaks up. Pathetic.</quote>Wrong. People like me get on you conservative, right-wing trolls because people like you love to troll by instigating/antagonizing posters by saying a lot of ignorant, dumb bullshit. As long as you folks keep doing that, you will continue to get called out, modded & will continue to get suspended or even banned. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shinobi120 12/18/19 8:10:13 PM #19:	Purely posted... Shame that I had to make a new topic to say this. This is how the left seems to be the majority online. You don't allow conversations. Call it trolling, ban everyone that speaks up. Pathetic. Wrong. People like me get on you conservative, right-wing trolls because people like you love to troll by instigating/antagonizing posters by saying a lot of ignorant, dumb bullshit. As long as you folks keep doing that, you will continue to get called out, modded & will continue to get suspended or even banned. And frankly, if it were up to me, I'd permaban all of you. --- November 8th, 2016 was the day that became a HUGE nightmare for America & the rest of the world once Donald Trump was elected president. <cite>Shinobi120 posted [p:931772875] in Flashback:... [t:78265528]...</cite> <quote>Purely posted... </cite> <quote>Shame that I had to make a new topic to say this. This is how the left seems to be the majority online. You don't allow conversations. Call it trolling, ban everyone that speaks up. Pathetic.</quote>Wrong. People like me get on you conservative, right-wing trolls because people like you love to troll by instigating/antagonizing posters by saying a lot of ignorant, dumb bullshit. As long as you folks keep doing that, you will continue to get called out, modded & will continue to get suspended or even banned. And frankly, if it were up to me, I'd permaban all of you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Maze_ 12/18/19 8:17:34 PM #20:	Mr Hangman posted... Ok, please explain how Trump "levied War against the United States, or adhered to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort". I'm not talking about the criminal definition of Article 3. I'm talking about the 101 daily conversation definition of taing actions directly and intentionally harmful to your nation. Betraying the nation: In law, treason is criminal disloyalty, typically to the state. It is a crime that covers some of the more extreme acts against one's nation or sovereign You accuse others of being hyperbolic and then play that card? Sure, I'll bite. Trump's actions against his nation for personal gain involving Ukraine don't violate Article 3, which is why the Impeacment isn't going under the crime of Treason. But that's not what anyone means (Including Trump himself) when they say that. Although if you want to go down that pedantic route because you have no actual argument (A strange reoccuring factor of the guys poo pooing those opposed to the impeachment) Trump's support of Russia, North Korea (I wish Icould say Saudi Arabia but they are technically allies) and requests for them to hack America fits Article 3. So still applies. That's just not what he is being impeached for. Unless you're going to say "No because we're not at war, therefore nothing he can ever do is Treason." which would be the eptiome of hyperliteral usage of words and not a defense of any of Trump's actions. --- When the going gets tough, the tough go have a little cry in the corner. "Your mustache is crooked" ~ R.I.P Randy Savage. <cite>Maze_ posted [p:931773167] in Flashback:... [t:78265528]...</cite> <quote>Mr Hangman posted... </cite> <quote>Ok, please explain how Trump "levied War against the United States, or adhered to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort".</quote>I'm not talking about the criminal definition of Article 3. I'm talking about the 101 daily conversation definition of taing actions directly and intentionally harmful to your nation. Betraying the nation: In law, treason is criminal disloyalty, typically to the state. It is a crime that covers some of the more extreme acts against one's nation or sovereign You accuse others of being hyperbolic and then play that card? Sure, I'll bite. Trump's actions against his nation for personal gain involving Ukraine don't violate Article 3, which is why the Impeacment isn't going under the crime of Treason. But that's not what anyone means (Including Trump himself) when they say that. Although if you want to go down that pedantic route because you have no actual argument (A strange reoccuring factor of the guys poo pooing those opposed to the impeachment) Trump's support of Russia, North Korea (I wish Icould say Saudi Arabia but they are technically allies) and requests for them to hack America fits Article 3. So still applies. That's just not what he is being impeached for. Unless you're going to say "No because we're not at war, therefore nothing he can ever do is Treason." which would be the eptiome of hyperliteral usage of words and not a defense of any of Trump's actions. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phantom_Nook 12/18/19 8:19:33 PM #21:	but black man bad!!! --- Not posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Phantom_Nook posted [p:931773247] in Flashback:... [t:78265528]...</cite> <quote>but black man bad!!! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nunyobidness 12/18/19 8:29:01 PM #22:	Purely posted... He never committed treason. Get real, dude. Trump's thing the whole time has been if we're giving a foreign country aid, they should be doing something to benefit us. That's how he negotiates. It's not private corruption and it's certainly not treason. It's laughable to call it treason. The things he does are to help the country, not hurt it. The economy is doing gangbusters because of his policies. Right now the White House, Trump's White House is trying to stop bipartisan sanctions from the Senate against Russia for election meddling. Trump is a Russian asset one way or the other. I can't even say he's just a useful idiot anymore because nobody can be this dumb. He's owned by Putin. <cite>Nunyobidness posted [p:931773696] in Flashback:... [t:78265528]...</cite> <quote>Purely posted... </cite> <quote>He never committed treason. Get real, dude. Trump's thing the whole time has been if we're giving a foreign country aid, they should be doing something to benefit us. That's how he negotiates. It's not private corruption and it's certainly not treason. It's laughable to call it treason. The things he does are to help the country, not hurt it. The economy is doing gangbusters because of his policies.</quote> Right now the White House, Trump's White House is trying to stop bipartisan sanctions from the Senate against Russia for election meddling. Trump is a Russian asset one way or the other. I can't even say he's just a useful idiot anymore because nobody can be this dumb. He's owned by Putin. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Purely 12/18/19 8:54:14 PM #24:	Nunyobidness posted... Right now the White House, Trump's White House is trying to stop bipartisan sanctions from the Senate against Russia for election meddling. Trump is a Russian asset one way or the other. I can't even say he's just a useful idiot anymore because nobody can be this dumb. He's owned by Putin. Gohmert said it best responding to Nadler claiming he's a Russian agent. "You said it was about this terrible Russia collusion. When that fell through, it was about emoluments, its about bribery, its about extortion. Its changed, but one thing hasnt changed and thats the intent to impeach this president. Its always been there." <cite>Purely posted [p:931774938] in Flashback:... [t:78265528]...</cite> <quote> Nunyobidness posted... </cite> <quote>Right now the White House, Trump's White House is trying to stop bipartisan sanctions from the Senate against Russia for election meddling. Trump is a Russian asset one way or the other. I can't even say he's just a useful idiot anymore because nobody can be this dumb. He's owned by Putin.</quote> Gohmert said it best responding to Nadler claiming he's a Russian agent. "You said it was about this terrible Russia collusion. When that fell through, it was about emoluments, its about bribery, its about extortion. Its changed, but one thing hasnt changed and thats the intent to impeach this president. Its always been there." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 12/18/19 8:57:34 PM #25:	Strange I don't see Obama asking or offering anything there. Additionally I want to point out that quid pro quos are actually legal so long as both the quid and quo are objects of national interest and not, say, election interference and extortion. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:931775111] in Flashback:... [t:78265528]...</cite> <quote>Strange I don't see Obama asking or offering anything there. Additionally I want to point out that quid pro quos are actually legal so long as both the quid and quo are objects of national interest and not, say, election interference and extortion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 12/18/19 9:00:19 PM #26:	Purely posted... He never committed treason. Get real, dude. Trump's thing the whole time has been if we're giving a foreign country aid, they should be doing something to benefit us. That's how he negotiates. It's not private corruption and it's certainly not treason. It's laughable to call it treason. The things he does are to help the country, not hurt it. The economy is doing gangbusters because of his policies. He did it for personal political gain, and he used his personal attorney to conduct questionable politics and business dealings in Ukraine. Also he and Giuliani have been peddling literally Russian-originated conspiracy theories about Ukraine this whole time. "The economy is doing gangbusters because of [him]" You can make money selling dope to kids in middle school, doesn't mean the other members of the household should tolerate it. --- FFXIV: Lucius Hexenseele (Brynhildr) \| RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/Fish/Cook/Fletch/Div/Mining/Smithing/Thieving, 94 crafting <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:931775261] in Flashback:... [t:78265528]...</cite> <quote>Purely posted... </cite> <quote>He never committed treason. Get real, dude. Trump's thing the whole time has been if we're giving a foreign country aid, they should be doing something to benefit us. That's how he negotiates. It's not private corruption and it's certainly not treason. It's laughable to call it treason. The things he does are to help the country, not hurt it. The economy is doing gangbusters because of his policies.</quote> He did it for personal political gain, and he used his personal attorney to conduct questionable politics and business dealings in Ukraine. Also he and Giuliani have been peddling literally Russian-originated conspiracy theories about Ukraine this whole time. "The economy is doing gangbusters because of [him]" You can make money selling dope to kids in middle school, doesn't mean the other members of the household should tolerate it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Current Events > Flashback: Obama tells Medvedev he'll have more flexibility after the election