Current Events > Have you heard about former Kentucky governor Matt Bevin's pardons?

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Josiah_Is_Back 12/15/19 11:28:17 AM #1:	After being defeated in the gubernatorial race by Democrat Steve Beshear, Bevin pardoned (apparently out of spite) hundreds of people including a child rapist, a man who decapitated his lover, etc. I side with the vast majority of Republicans and Democrats who condemn his actions as reprehensible and indefensible He is a monster who ought to burn in Hell It's definitely controversial, but we don't know the whole story just yet; let's wait to judge him I'll be keeping my eye on any developments to see what happens Meh, slimy politician; same old story, nothing surprising After being defeated in the gubernatorial race by Democrat Steve Beshear, Bevin pardoned (apparently out of spite) hundreds of people including a child rapist, a man who decapitated his lover, etc. - Results (20 votes) I side with the vast majority of Republicans and Democrats who condemn his actions as reprehensible and indefensible 60% (12 votes) 12 He is a monster who ought to burn in Hell 35% (7 votes) 7 It's definitely controversial, but we don't know the whole story just yet; let's wait to judge him 0% (0 votes) 0 I'll be keeping my eye on any developments to see what happens 5% (1 vote) 1 Meh, slimy politician; same old story, nothing surprising 0% (0 votes) 0 How do you feel about this? <cite>Josiah_Is_Back posted [p:931615128] in Have you h... [t:78256634]...</cite> <quote> After being defeated in the gubernatorial race by Democrat Steve Beshear, Bevin pardoned (apparently out of spite) hundreds of people including a child rapist, a man who decapitated his lover, etc. I side with the vast majority of Republicans and Democrats who condemn his actions as reprehensible and indefensible He is a monster who ought to burn in Hell It's definitely controversial, but we don't know the whole story just yet; let's wait to judge him I'll be keeping my eye on any developments to see what happens Meh, slimy politician; same old story, nothing surprising Vote View Results After being defeated in the gubernatorial race by Democrat Steve Beshear, Bevin pardoned (apparently out of spite) hundreds of people including a child rapist, a man who decapitated his lover, etc. - Results (20 votes) I side with the vast majority of Republicans and Democrats who condemn his actions as reprehensible and indefensible 60% (12 votes) 12 He is a monster who ought to burn in Hell 35% (7 votes) 7 It's definitely controversial, but we don't know the whole story just yet; let's wait to judge him 0% (0 votes) 0 I'll be keeping my eye on any developments to see what happens 5% (1 vote) 1 Meh, slimy politician; same old story, nothing surprising 0% (0 votes) 0 Show Voting Form How do you feel about this? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Josiah_Is_Back 12/15/19 11:31:06 AM #2:	https://www.npr.org/2019/12/13/787811560/on-his-way-out-kentucky-gov-matt-bevin-pardons-murderers-rapists-hundreds-more https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kentucky-matt-bevin-pardoned-hundreds https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/13/us/matt-bevin-kentucky-crimes.html <cite>Josiah_Is_Back posted [p:931615224] in Have you h... [t:78256634]...</cite> <quote>https://www.npr.org/2019/12/13/787811560/on-his-way-out-kentucky-gov-matt-bevin-pardons-murderers-rapists-hundreds-more https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kentucky-matt-bevin-pardoned-hundreds https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/13/us/matt-bevin-kentucky-crimes.html </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Josiah_Is_Back 12/15/19 11:39:45 AM #3:	BTW, the man convicted of raping a nine-year-old had only served 18 months of a 23-year sentence by the time Bevin pardoned him. Imagine being the girl's parents, and having to explain why that man is walking free now. <cite>Josiah_Is_Back posted [p:931615484] in Have you h... [t:78256634]...</cite> <quote>BTW, the man convicted of raping a nine-year-old had only served 18 months of a 23-year sentence by the time Bevin pardoned him. Imagine being the girl's parents, and having to explain why that man is walking free now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Snickers_Pls 12/15/19 11:40:57 AM #4:	Hes a piece of shit should be in prison <cite>Snickers_Pls posted [p:931615525] in Have you h... [t:78256634]...</cite> <quote>Hes a piece of shit should be in prison</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 12/15/19 11:40:59 AM #5:	This is the proverbial leaving an upper decker in the office on your way out after you've been fired. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:931615526] in Have you h... [t:78256634]...</cite> <quote>This is the proverbial leaving an upper decker in the office on your way out after you've been fired. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IdiotMachine 12/15/19 11:41:50 AM #6:	It would be justice if the criminals he released hurts him or his family. --- https://imgur.com/XNEdLrJ <cite>IdiotMachine posted [p:931615554] in Have you h... [t:78256634]...</cite> <quote>It would be justice if the criminals he released hurts him or his family. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hexenherz 12/15/19 11:42:36 AM #7:	I'm kind of curious how accurate his assessments are of these trials that convicted people for things like child rape are. I think his assertion here is that the guy had two defense attorneys who had no idea what they were doing. I guess I just have a really hard time believing this guy would pardon like 500 people for the fuck of it. --- FFXIV: Lucius Hexenseele (Brynhildr) \| RS3: UltimaSuende . 99 WC/Fish/Cook/Fletch/Div/Mining/Smithing/Thieving, 94 crafting <cite>Hexenherz posted [p:931615575] in Have you h... [t:78256634]...</cite> <quote>I'm kind of curious how accurate his assessments are of these trials that convicted people for things like child rape are. I think his assertion here is that the guy had two defense attorneys who had no idea what they were doing. I guess I just have a really hard time believing this guy would pardon like 500 people for the fuck of it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 12/15/19 11:43:40 AM #8:	In one case, Bevin pardoned a man convicted of homicide. That man's family raised more than $20,000 at a political fundraiser to help Bevin pay off a debt owed from his 2015 gubernatorial campaign. Hmmmmmmmmmm --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:931615602] in Have you h... [t:78256634]...</cite> <quote>In one case, Bevin pardoned a man convicted of homicide. That man's family raised more than $20,000 at a political fundraiser to help Bevin pay off a debt owed from his 2015 gubernatorial campaign. Hmmmmmmmmmm </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trigg3rH4ppy 12/15/19 11:44:43 AM #9:	Josiah_Is_Back posted... BTW, the man convicted of raping a nine-year-old had only served 18 months of a 23-year sentence by the time Bevin pardoned him. Imagine being the girl's parents, and having to explain why that man is walking free now. If I was her dad who just watched the justice system absolutely fail his poor fucking daughter I'd be making sure that dude never gets a chance to hurt anyone again. Goodbyeeeee Eaarllllllll --- ~A little nonsense, now and then, is relished by the wisest men ~ TWSSted since~ 3/27/12 https://imgur.com/zlaENmx <cite>Trigg3rH4ppy posted [p:931615638] in Have you h... [t:78256634]...</cite> <quote>Josiah_Is_Back posted... </cite> <quote>BTW, the man convicted of raping a nine-year-old had only served 18 months of a 23-year sentence by the time Bevin pardoned him. Imagine being the girl's parents, and having to explain why that man is walking free now.</quote>If I was her dad who just watched the justice system absolutely fail his poor fucking daughter I'd be making sure that dude never gets a chance to hurt anyone again. Goodbyeeeee Eaarllllllll </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheHoldSteady 12/15/19 11:46:07 AM #10:	Same state that elected Mitch McConnell five times, I'm not surprised --- If she says we partied, then I'm pretty sure we partied. I really don't remember. I remember we departed from our bodies. <cite>TheHoldSteady posted [p:931615672] in Have you h... [t:78256634]...</cite> <quote>Same state that elected Mitch McConnell five times, I'm not surprised </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 12/15/19 11:49:08 AM #11:	I don't have any illusions that Bevin did this out of some sudden emergence of principles. But, I do believe that our justice system is overly punitive in general, and the 4-5 lurid stories people have highlighted out of 400 pardons doesn't change that fact. It's disappointing to see that this has sparked some outrage and calls for harsher sentencing from people who otherwise believe in ending mass incarceration. https://twitter.com/JohnFPfaff/status/1205504281652158470?s=19 https://twitter.com/germanrlopez/status/1205621004736876544?s=19 --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:931615757] in Have you h... [t:78256634]...</cite> <quote>I don't have any illusions that Bevin did this out of some sudden emergence of principles. But, I do believe that our justice system is overly punitive in general, and the 4-5 lurid stories people have highlighted out of 400 pardons doesn't change that fact. It's disappointing to see that this has sparked some outrage and calls for harsher sentencing from people who otherwise believe in ending mass incarceration. https://twitter.com/JohnFPfaff/status/1205504281652158470?s=19 https://twitter.com/germanrlopez/status/1205621004736876544?s=19</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Josiah_Is_Back 12/15/19 12:12:32 PM #12:	^ If I hold the door open for 499 people, but I slam the door in the face of the 500th person and tell them to f* off, I'm still an asshole <cite>Josiah_Is_Back posted [p:931616523] in Have you h... [t:78256634]...</cite> <quote>^ If I hold the door open for 499 people, but I slam the door in the face of the 500th person and tell them to f* off, I'm still an asshole </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deanshow 12/15/19 12:39:57 PM #13:	Antifar posted... I don't have any illusions that Bevin did this out of some sudden emergence of principles. But, I do believe that our justice system is overly punitive in general, and the 4-5 lurid stories people have highlighted out of 400 pardons doesn't change that fact. It's disappointing to see that this has sparked some outrage and calls for harsher sentencing from people who otherwise believe in ending mass incarceration. https://twitter.com/JohnFPfaff/status/1205504281652158470?s=19 https://twitter.com/germanrlopez/status/1205621004736876544?s=19 He wants to cap all setences at 20 years. I fucking hate liberals sometimes. They got bright ideas, that doesnt work in the real world. This dude is the definition od a joke and soyboy. I agree that NON violent offenders shouldnt serve much time, bit one dude cut off his partners head, mother fucker should serve life --- Will not change this sig until Tommy Wiseau wins an Oscar (Started 12-21-2014) <cite>deanshow posted [p:931617448] in Have you h... [t:78256634]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted... </cite> <quote>I don't have any illusions that Bevin did this out of some sudden emergence of principles. But, I do believe that our justice system is overly punitive in general, and the 4-5 lurid stories people have highlighted out of 400 pardons doesn't change that fact. It's disappointing to see that this has sparked some outrage and calls for harsher sentencing from people who otherwise believe in ending mass incarceration. https://twitter.com/JohnFPfaff/status/1205504281652158470?s=19 https://twitter.com/germanrlopez/status/1205621004736876544?s=19</quote>He wants to cap all setences at 20 years. I fucking hate liberals sometimes. They got bright ideas, that doesnt work in the real world. This dude is the definition od a joke and soyboy. I agree that NON violent offenders shouldnt serve much time, bit one dude cut off his partners head, mother fucker should serve life </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 12/15/19 12:45:45 PM #14:	deanshow posted... He wants to cap all setences at 20 years That's more or less the case in Norway, which has lower crime and recidivism rates than the US. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:931617676] in Have you h... [t:78256634]...</cite> <quote>deanshow posted...</cite> <quote>He wants to cap all setences at 20 years</quote> That's more or less the case in Norway, which has lower crime and recidivism rates than the US.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 12/15/19 12:54:25 PM #15:	Andy Beshear. Steve Beshear is his father, a former governor himself. --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:931618018] in Have you h... [t:78256634]...</cite> <quote>Andy Beshear. Steve Beshear is his father, a former governor himself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 12/15/19 12:56:42 PM #16:	deanshow posted... This dude is the definition od a joke and soyboy. Please tell me you're not actually saying this unironically lol --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:931618096] in Have you h... [t:78256634]...</cite> <quote>deanshow posted... </cite> <quote>This dude is the definition od a joke and soyboy.</quote>Please tell me you're not actually saying this unironically lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
treewojima 12/15/19 1:03:31 PM #17:	deanshow posted... Antifar posted... I don't have any illusions that Bevin did this out of some sudden emergence of principles. But, I do believe that our justice system is overly punitive in general, and the 4-5 lurid stories people have highlighted out of 400 pardons doesn't change that fact. It's disappointing to see that this has sparked some outrage and calls for harsher sentencing from people who otherwise believe in ending mass incarceration. https://twitter.com/JohnFPfaff/status/1205504281652158470?s=19 https://twitter.com/germanrlopez/status/1205621004736876544?s=19 He wants to cap all setences at 20 years. I fucking hate liberals sometimes. They got bright ideas, that doesnt work in the real world. This dude is the definition od a joke and soyboy. I agree that NON violent offenders shouldnt serve much time, bit one dude cut off his partners head, mother fucker should serve life you do realize that countries that have caps on prison time usually have soft caps, right? Anders Breivik got the max of 21 years under Norwegian law, but he is subject to psychological tests before being released. If he's still found to be a danger to society, his sentence can be increased and they can keep him in prison (effectively indefinitely). This is exactly how it should be. Life in prison should be the exception used as needed, not the default. <cite>treewojima posted [p:931618365] in Have you h... [t:78256634]...</cite> <quote>deanshow posted...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted... </cite> <quote> I don't have any illusions that Bevin did this out of some sudden emergence of principles. But, I do believe that our justice system is overly punitive in general, and the 4-5 lurid stories people have highlighted out of 400 pardons doesn't change that fact. It's disappointing to see that this has sparked some outrage and calls for harsher sentencing from people who otherwise believe in ending mass incarceration. https://twitter.com/JohnFPfaff/status/1205504281652158470?s=19 https://twitter.com/germanrlopez/status/1205621004736876544?s=19</quote>He wants to cap all setences at 20 years. I fucking hate liberals sometimes. They got bright ideas, that doesnt work in the real world. This dude is the definition od a joke and soyboy. I agree that NON violent offenders shouldnt serve much time, bit one dude cut off his partners head, mother fucker should serve life </quote> you do realize that countries that have caps on prison time usually have soft caps, right? Anders Breivik got the max of 21 years under Norwegian law, but he is subject to psychological tests before being released. If he's still found to be a danger to society, his sentence can be increased and they can keep him in prison (effectively indefinitely). This is exactly how it should be. Life in prison should be the exception used as needed, not the default.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deanshow 12/15/19 1:13:58 PM #18:	Doom_Art posted... Please tell me you're not actually saying this unironically lol Im saying it ironically haha I still think 20 year caps are a bad idea. I dont think most liberals understand the concepts they spout and why it wouldnt work for this huge ass country. --- Will not change this sig until Tommy Wiseau wins an Oscar (Started 12-21-2014) <cite>deanshow posted [p:931618755] in Have you h... [t:78256634]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>Please tell me you're not actually saying this unironically lol</quote>Im saying it ironically haha I still think 20 year caps are a bad idea. I dont think most liberals understand the concepts they spout and why it wouldnt work for this huge ass country. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deanshow 12/15/19 1:15:03 PM #19:	treewojima posted... you do realize that countries that have caps on prison time usually have soft caps, right? Anders Breivik got the max of 21 years under Norwegian law, but he is subject to psychological tests before being released. If he's still found to be a danger to society, his sentence can be increased and they can keep him in prison (effectively indefinitely). This is exactly how it should be. Life in prison should be the exception used as needed, not the default. I disagree Anders shouldnt be let out under no circumstances. Fuck that white nationalist piece of shit. I hope he rots in prison playing that PS2. I found it ridicoulous he had the balls to complain about that --- Will not change this sig until Tommy Wiseau wins an Oscar (Started 12-21-2014) <cite>deanshow posted [p:931618791] in Have you h... [t:78256634]...</cite> <quote>treewojima posted... </cite> <quote>you do realize that countries that have caps on prison time usually have soft caps, right? Anders Breivik got the max of 21 years under Norwegian law, but he is subject to psychological tests before being released. If he's still found to be a danger to society, his sentence can be increased and they can keep him in prison (effectively indefinitely). This is exactly how it should be. Life in prison should be the exception used as needed, not the default.</quote>I disagree Anders shouldnt be let out under no circumstances. Fuck that white nationalist piece of shit. I hope he rots in prison playing that PS2. I found it ridicoulous he had the balls to complain about that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 12/15/19 1:16:49 PM #20:	deanshow posted... Im saying it ironically haha I still think 20 year caps are a bad idea. I dont think most liberals understand the concepts they spout and why it wouldnt work for this huge ass country. Using the term soyboy unironically is pretty telling lol --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:931618870] in Have you h... [t:78256634]...</cite> <quote>deanshow posted... </cite> <quote>Im saying it ironically haha I still think 20 year caps are a bad idea. I dont think most liberals understand the concepts they spout and why it wouldnt work for this huge ass country.</quote>Using the term soyboy unironically is pretty telling lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deanshow 12/15/19 1:24:01 PM #21:	Doom_Art posted... Using the term soyboy unironically is pretty telling lol I shouldve gone for CE Right Wing Bingo: cuck, soyboy, lib**, and others --- Will not change this sig until Tommy Wiseau wins an Oscar (Started 12-21-2014) <cite>deanshow posted [p:931619143] in Have you h... [t:78256634]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite> <quote>Using the term soyboy unironically is pretty telling lol</quote>I shouldve gone for CE Right Wing Bingo: cuck, soyboy, lib**, and others </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 12/15/19 1:25:47 PM #22:	Trigg3rH4ppy posted... If I was her dad who just watched the justice system absolutely fail his poor fucking daughter I'd be making sure that dude never gets a chance to hurt anyone again. Goodbyeeeee Eaarllllllll Yeah and honestly there isn't a jury out there that would convict him. --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:931619202] in Have you h... [t:78256634]...</cite> <quote>Trigg3rH4ppy posted... </cite> <quote>If I was her dad who just watched the justice system absolutely fail his poor fucking daughter I'd be making sure that dude never gets a chance to hurt anyone again. Goodbyeeeee Eaarllllllll</quote>Yeah and honestly there isn't a jury out there that would convict him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Josiah_Is_Back 12/15/19 1:53:05 PM #23:	jumi posted... Andy Beshear. Steve Beshear is his father, a former governor himself. Whoops, mea culpa <cite>Josiah_Is_Back posted [p:931620365] in Have you h... [t:78256634]...</cite> <quote>jumi posted... </cite> <quote>Andy Beshear. Steve Beshear is his father, a former governor himself.</quote> Whoops, mea culpa </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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