Current Events > Honest Question, do any of you really think impeaching Trump is a smart move?

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You want to get rid of him right?

We already know the senate will act like it is a joke and throw it out in less than a day.

All this is going to do is emboldened his supporters to make sure they all vote no matter what for Trump.

So we have Democrats who are all over the place vote wise, those who love Bernie and hate Biden, those who hate Bernie and love Biden, those who love Yang but hate anyone with a polling number above 3%.

I mean they are all over place and fighting and bickering.

Then you have republicans who literally are 100% convinced Democrats are irrational psychopaths who will destroy the country, thanks to new age SJWs. Who believe Trump is their savior.

You think trying to force their savior out of office is not going to have consequences?

I bet election year we have the largest turn out of republican voters ever in the history of the nation by an extreme percent increase.

While democrats will be stewing and pissed because their person did not get picked and actually have a smaller turn out as they all assume everyone is going to be anti-Trump again and they are in majority.

Instead of this stupid "ahha we gotcha! And are pointing at you for being bad" dorkfest moment with impeachment. They should be doing real things to destroy Trump.

Either way gonna call it now so I can quote this in 2020 and later 2024.

Trump EASILY will win 2020 masacuring the electorial vote system all around (will lose popular vote again by millions, but will not matter).

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez will win 2024 by a land slide though. So at least we have that to look forward too.

SkyShow posted...

All this is going to do is emboldened his supporters to make sure they all vote no matter what for Trump.

Something they were going to do anyway?
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SkyShow posted...

All this is going to do is emboldened his supporters to make sure they all vote no matter what for Trump.

Lmfao

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Trump needs to go through the impeachment process otherwise there would be point in having the system in the first place.

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Phantom_Nook posted...

Something they were going to do anyway?

At least before this they might of waited at home watching the news and screaming at tv.

Now they will feel like they are protecting him and HAVE to go out and vote, guarenteeing his win in Swing States.

You know all Swing State calculators are showing he is currently going to easily win electoral again. But making sure they have a reason to go out, is adding salt to wound.

Phantom_Nook posted...

Something they were going to do anyway?

Pretty much

This is essentially just a show to try and convince independents to stop voting for him in swing States, it might work I don't think they have anything to lose at this point tbh. And trump will say or do something eventually that even he cannot get out of.

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Letron_James posted...

Pretty much

This is essentially just a show to try and convince independents to stop voting for him in swing States, it might work I don't think they have anything to lose at this point tbh. And trump will say or do something eventually that even he cannot get out of.

I feel the opposite will happen. That with their "savior" under attack every last fucking one will go out and vote for him now, to protect their messiah.

If he violated his oath of office he should be impeached. It's simple as that

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SkyShow posted...

I feel the opposite will happen. That with their "savior" under attack every last fucking one will go out and vote for him now, to protect their messiah.

They were already going to do that. They did that before. There's nothing to do for convincing anything about that base. As was stated, this is about convincing anyone on the fence.

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MC_BatCommander posted...

If he violated his oath of office he should be impeached. It's simple as that

Logic dictates that they should go for winning, not for emboldening his supporters.

Should of dug for more and worse dirt, you just know he has done way worse.

No one on republican side is going to give a shit "he withheld money from a corrupt foreign government until they investigated why a white rich mans son was making millions there doing nothing." THAT is all they see. So democrats just look like they are refusing to accept Trump won.

So they have to "protect" him now.

theyre in a tough spot. you cant just let the shit slide.

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I prefer that our government doesn't become a dictatorship where an acting president is above the law, so yeah I think this is a smart move.

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SkyShow posted...

At least before this they might of waited at home watching the news and screaming at tv.

Now they will feel like they are protecting him and HAVE to go out and vote, guarenteeing his win in Swing States.

You know all Swing State calculators are showing he is currently going to easily win electoral again. But making sure they have a reason to go out, is adding salt to wound.

this is a lie. polling in swing states indicates trump is way behind in the ones he has to win.

anyone still inclined to vote for trump was always going to vote for him but the majority of americans despise him now and support impeachment

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SkyShow posted...

Logic dictates that they should go for winning, not for emboldening his supporters.

Should of dug for more and worse dirt, you just know he has done way worse.

No one on republican side is going to give a shit "he withheld money from a corrupt foreign government until they investigated why a white rich mans son was making millions there doing nothing." THAT is all they see. So democrats just look like they are refusing to accept Trump won.

So they have to "protect" him now.

So you want the US to ignore the oath of office and let the president be capable of doing anything regardless of wether it's with the interest of the US or another country.

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SkyShow posted...

Should of dug for more and worse dirt, you just know he has done way worse.

The dirt we already have is plenty bad enough.

Why don't you assume Democrats will be even angrier and turn out in record numbers because impeachment didn't plan out? That worked in 2018 after all.

I agree Professor Turley
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BuckVanHammer posted...

theyre in a tough spot. you cant just let the shit slide.

Trump has already freed 3,100 people from prison that did a worse crime than paying a country to find dirt on a political opponent. I mean do you really think other canidates don't pay to try and find said info?

Trumps problem was doing it on way to grand a scale, because of insane levels of narcissism.

The senate is literally not going to give two shits.

Hairistotle posted...

do dee do dee do

oh what have we here? a 2019 alt vomiting out clown shit?

i bet ce will all toss him on block, the correct approach to this situation

oh

Well if you are posting in this topic you very clearly haven't blocked the user either, so... maybe take your own advice?

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No, if the senate fails to vote him out then it will be a murderous loss for the Dems. The safe play wouldve been just to keep calling out his lies and elect him out when the time comes, but impeachment is a high risk gambit that may come around to bite them.

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Tmaster148 posted...

So you want the US to ignore the oath of office and let the president be capable of doing anything regardless of wether it's with the interest of the US or another country.

Ya if it means a better shot at getting a lunatic out of office before permanently damaging the reputation of USA for multiple centuries.

Kazi1212 posted...

No, if the senate fails to vote him out then it will be a murderous loss for the Dems. The safe play wouldve been just to keep calling out his lies and elect him out when the time comes, but impeachment is a high risk gambit that may come around to bite them.

The Dems, nor anyone else, think Trump will actually be voted out. The point is the show. His lies have been called out since before he was president, but that doesn't matter to his base.

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Kazi1212 posted...

No, if the senate fails to vote him out then it will be a murderous loss for the Dems. The safe play wouldve been just to keep calling out his lies and elect him out when the time comes, but impeachment is a high risk gambit that may come around to bite them.

This exactly! They are going to lose the gamble and it will massively fuck us with a guarenteed Trump win.

They were better off just pointing out all the corruption and lies and how republicans did nothing. Instead they will now look they are being silly and will just become a joke when senate dismisses their claims like they do no matter.

Honestly, there's no way to stop Trump no matter what democrats do, if they do nothing their base loses faith in them and that emboldens Republicans, they do something and it fires up the republican base and their base loses faith in them even more because they're just letting this happen instead trying to show that Trump is not a king, even through he effectively is with republican senate, Barr running the justice department and the republican supreme court who are poised to help him hide his tax returns or constantly keep pushing the case back until he's out of office

and of course there are other things that dems have no control whatsoever over that fires up the Trump base, they hat outrage culture, PC culture, hollywood elites preaching at them, Feminism, SJWs and especially what they see as LGBT and Minority pandering in entertainment media you can even fire them up with the gaming industry woes

The really scary part that helps trump is how much of a boon he is to the rich and corporate mongols they've gained a massive amount of power thanks to him and as such they've realized that unless they get a dem whose just a willing to let them get away with whatever they want like Trump does if not more they'll do everything in their power to help him win again.

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IMO this whole impeachment thing will probably be more damaging to Biden than to Trump.

Regardless of what you think of the whole Hunter Biden/Ukraine thing, the fact is that this issue is pretty much out there and known by everyone now
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SkyShow posted...

All this is going to do is emboldened his supporters to make sure they all vote no matter what for Trump.

they were going to do that regardless lol

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tremain07 posted...

Honestly, there's no way to stop Trump no matter what democrats do, if they do nothing their base loses faith in them and that emboldens Republicans, they do something and it fires up the republican base and their base loses faith in them even more because they're just letting this happen instead trying to show that Trump is not a king, even through he effectively is with republican senate, Barr running the justice department and the republican supreme court who are poised to help him hide his tax returns or constantly keep pushing the case back until he's out of office

and of course there are other things that dems have no control whatsoever over that fires up the Trump base, they hat outrage culture, PC culture, hollywood elites preaching at them, Feminism, SJWs and especially what they see as LGBT and Minority pandering in entertainment media you can even fire them up with the gaming industry woes

The really scary part that helps trump is how much of a boon he is to the rich and corporate mongols they've gained a massive amount of power thanks to him and as such they've realized that unless they get a dem whose just a willing to let them get away with whatever they want like Trump does if not more they'll do everything in their power to help him win again.

It sounds weird but I feel with Trump winning a 2nd time, it absolutley guarenteeds that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wins in 2024. Which I am pretty excited to see what kinda changes she brings to USA.

konokonohamaru posted...

IMO this whole impeachment thing will probably be more damaging to Biden than to Trump.

Regardless of what you think of the whole Hunter Biden/Ukraine thing, the fact is that this issue is pretty much out there and known by everyone now

They would be insane to give Biden the nomination at this point.

If anyone has a chance at winning it's probably Bernie Sanders. But I don't feel anyone has a chance anymore.

SkyShow posted...

It sounds weird but I feel with Trump winning a 2nd time, it absolutley guarenteeds that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez wins in 2024. Which I am pretty excited to see what kinda changes she brings to USA.

lol'd

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My whole life people have been saying that the Democrats are spineless cowards.

This is one of the few times they're showing some backbone and going after a political rival...and people think it's going to bite them in the ass?

WHAT???

it would be far worse to set the example of letting Presidents get away with illegal shit

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Guide posted...

The Dems, nor anyone else, think Trump will actually be voted out. The point is the show. His lies have been called out since before he was president, but that doesn't matter to his base.

all evidence points to trump losing by a lot. he is polling way behind in the swing states he needs to win and no one is voting for trump because of impeachment. his base hasnt grown at all while many people hate him much more than they did in '16

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Democrats have tried to impeach every recent Republican president except Ford. This is just what they do. It won't happen but it doesn't matter because it damages Trump and his chances of winning. They can always fabricate another hoax, leaker, russian pee dossier, whatever.

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ThanksUglyGod posted...

My whole life people have been saying that the Democrats are spineless cowards.

This is one of the few times they're showing some backbone and going after a political rival...and people think it's going to bite them in the ass?

WHAT???

that belief isnt based on any facts or evidence, it is just trumps supporters nervously clinging to hope that he can win despite most of america supporting impeachment and despising him


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When the Mueller report came out and Democrats did nothing, Trump felt emboldened and immediately started extorting Ukraine the next day. When somebody blew the whistle and Democrats started down the path of impeachment, Trump backpedaled and release the Ukrainian aid. Impeachment is keeping him on defense right now and that's the best we can hope for.

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andel posted...

all evidence points to trump losing by a lot. he is polling way behind in the swing states he needs to win and no one is voting for trump because of impeachment. his base hasnt grown at all while many people hate him much more than they did in '16

I feel your sources are biased. I hope you remember what happened in 2016.

trapping republican leadership between trump cultists and moderates who can see the situation is obviously abuse of power is a good strategy. to keep one they must forfeit the other.

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Polycosm posted...

When the Mueller report came out and Democrats did nothing, Trump felt emboldened and immediately started extorting Ukraine the next day. When somebody blew the whistle and Democrats started down the path of impeachment, Trump backpedaled and release the Ukrainian aid. Impeachment is keeping him on defense right now and that's the best we can hope for.

You know this angle is actually a really cool one.

So just assume he is going to win no matter what, but then by doing this they put him on defensive so he can't do as much harm to USA.

I like this angle.. in this light it suggest what they are doing is really smart and more good for country over just trying to win.

Sackgurl posted...

trapping republican leadership between trump cultists and moderates who can see the situation is obviously abuse of power is a good strategy. to keep one they must forfeit the other.

Unrelated.... but damn do I wish they would make a LBP 4.

SkyShow posted...

Unrelated.... but damn do I wish they would make a LBP 4.

i can dream

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"Playing the game" vs. "Doing the right thing"

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"We should let mitch dictate what the dems do" is about the weakest, most cuckolded take there is

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moscow mitch.... fucker gave his loyalty to russia.
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COVxy posted...

"Playing the game" vs. "Doing the right thing"

Ya Polycosm has me now convinced they chose the path of helping USA and bettering the country over a better chance at winning the election.

Especially how he pointed out he started borderline day after Russian probe stopped to start extorting Ukraine.

They pretty much are doing anything they can to stop Trumps tyrade even if it means a less chance at winning. Which is honorable of them.

kingdrake2 posted...

moscow mitch.... fucker gave his loyalty to russia.

Really the entire republican party has. I wouldn't be surprised if more republicans were colluding with Russia, but even if they aren't they sure are willing to ignore it.

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SkyShow posted...

You know this angle is actually a really cool one.

So just assume he is going to win no matter what, but then by doing this they put him on defensive so he can't do as much harm to USA.

I like this angle.. in this light it suggest what they are doing is really smart and more good for country over just trying to win.

Now imagine what Trump is gonna be like if he's rewarded for his behavior by gaining a second term and since he's surrounded himself with soulless yes men there's truly no stopping him as any republican who dares speak out against him will have their career destroyed

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SkyShow posted...

I feel your sources are biased. I hope you remember what happened in 2016.

you mean every pollster? sorry, your god emperor is in trouble and trying to reassure yourself isnt going to help

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Error1355 posted...

I prefer that our government doesn't become a dictatorship where an acting president is above the law, so yeah I think this is a smart move.

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Probably a controversial opinion around here, but I don't think Russia is that bad compared to say China.

At least Russia gets caught and does a bad job of hiding how evil they are.