Current Events > One Piece is definitely not a pile of gold.

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My original thought was that it would literally be a one piece swimsuit, but after 20 years that would be a pretty stale punchline.

In fact it's been so long now I don't know what could be not lame. Is it gonna be some existential concept, like the spirit of friendship or adventure or whatever?
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What are the chances the dude can't even think of what it should be so the show goes on forever?
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MedeaLysistrata posted...

What are the chances the dude can't even think of what it should be so the show goes on forever?

Or he thought of it being a gag like a one-piece and is now in a bad situation.

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I have been looking for an excuse to get into One Piece. It's just easier for me to watch dubbed anime as I can do other things while it's on. It's on Hulu+ subbed.
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AirFresh posted...

MedeaLysistrata posted...

What are the chances the dude can't even think of what it should be so the show goes on forever?

Or he thought of it being a gag like a one-piece and is now in a bad situation.

Honestly I reckon this is it. There are so many gags like that in the story, it's possible that's what he intended this to be back when he started writing it. Maybe he intended to finish it off in a year or two.
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Wii_Shaker posted...

I have been looking for an excuse to get into One Piece. It's just easier for me to watch dubbed anime as I can do other things while it's on. It's on Hulu+ subbed.

The hardest part is that the first 30 episodes are lame and the animation is like, Dragonball Z quality for the first like...250 episodes.

Seems stupid to tell someone to stick out 30 fucking episodes before it gets good though, but it really does. It went (in my estimations) from "what is this stupid shit" to "Naruto and Bleach authors must be crying at their complete lack of depth right now".
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Ive been saying for ages that its literally going to be one piece. As in one coin, or something.

Rogers said that right before he was executed, right? Its the last prank of a dead man

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AlisLandale posted...

Ive been saying for ages that its literally going to be one piece. As in one coin, or something.

Rogers said that right before he was executed, right? Its the last prank of a dead man

Probably this, but tied in with the whole 'spirit of the journey' kind of stuff. Only the true king of the pirates would find it funny and appreciate the adventure it took to get there.

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pinky0926 posted...

Wii_Shaker posted...

I have been looking for an excuse to get into One Piece. It's just easier for me to watch dubbed anime as I can do other things while it's on. It's on Hulu+ subbed.

The hardest part is that the first 30 episodes are lame and the animation is like, Dragonball Z quality for the first like...250 episodes.

Seems stupid to tell someone to stick out 30 fucking episodes before it gets good though, but it really does. It went (in my estimations) from "what is this stupid shit" to "Naruto and Bleach authors must be crying at their complete lack of depth right now".

Thanks for the warning. I think I'll start from the beginning and power through the rough episodes :)
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SRR Capdown posted...

AlisLandale posted...

Ive been saying for ages that its literally going to be one piece. As in one coin, or something.

Rogers said that right before he was executed, right? Its the last prank of a dead man

Probably this, but tied in with the whole 'spirit of the journey' kind of stuff. Only the true king of the pirates would find it funny and appreciate the adventure it took to get there.

If luffy picks up one piece of gold with a smile in his face after basically stomping a planet; everything's worth it
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pinky0926 posted...

The hardest part is that the first 30 episodes are lame and the animation is like, Dragonball Z quality for the first like...250 episodes.

Seems stupid to tell someone to stick out 30 fucking episodes before it gets good though, but it really does. It went (in my estimations) from "what is this stupid shit" to "Naruto and Bleach authors must be crying at their complete lack of depth right now".

Interesting, thanks. I tried getting into the series but stopped at around 26, feeling it was taking way too much time to actually get interesting. Maybe I'll power through to see how it is at 30+.
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@Wii_Shaker
@Sir_Cyrus

There's actually an abridged movie that goes through the entire first 30 episodes in under 2 hours, might be worth checking out as it's also good animation.

In fact I believe they're making abridged movies for more or less the entire series.

I haven't seen it though so someone else might be able to weigh in.
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pinky0926 posted...

My original thought was that it would literally be a one piece swimsuit, but after 20 years that would be a pretty stale punchline.

In fact it's been so long now I don't know what could be not lame. Is it gonna be some existential concept, like the spirit of friendship or adventure or whatever?

Author confirmed that one piece would indeed be a physical item and not a metaphoric one like what your talking about.

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pinky0926 posted...

@Wii_Shaker
@Sir_Cyrus

There's actually an abridged movie that goes through the entire first 30 episodes in under 2 hours, might be worth checking out as it's also good animation.

In fact I believe they're making abridged movies for more or less the entire series.

I haven't seen it though so someone else might be able to weigh in.

Good to know :)
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the first 30 episodes of one piece are quality 90s shonen stuff wtf are you talking about. Sanji tearing up at leaving the baratie, Zoro vs Mihawk, all great

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Akagami_Shanks posted...

the first 30 episodes of one piece are quality 90s shonen stuff wtf are you talking about. Sanji tearing up at leaving the baratie, Zoro vs Mihawk, all great

That's just it though. Not everyone has the patience for 90s shonen. I know I struggled. Some of my friends struggled. It's a slow start for sure.

To add to this, if you don't know One Piece and its sense of character, then the idea of a dumbass protagonist in a stupid hat who stretches his arms like a rubber man is honestly very stupid and unappealing.
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I loved those early chapters where it was just Luffy and Zoro. They have my favorite chemistry of the crew.
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one piece is gonna be destroying the red line and creating the all blue etc. this unifying the world and destroying the corrupt world government or some shit.

Theres a theory out there that pretty much predicts all of it.

Its prob gonna be the adventure and friends youve met along the way
Or a fidget spinner
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i find the east blue saga more entertaining than demon slayer. If people are fans of HxH and YYH and DBZ then they should like early one piece since iets basically cut from the same cloth

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I sat through 500+ episodes because my friend really wanted me to like it. The horrendous pacing destroys everything enjoyable about the show IMO. It was painful while binging, I can't imagine what it's like for longtime fans watching it on a weekly basis for nearly 20 years.
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SmidgeIsntBack posted...

I loved those early chapters where it was just Luffy and Zoro. They have my favorite chemistry of the crew.

One thing that makes me sad now is that there's less of that golden camaraderie now, or at least it seems that way. So many characters in the crew that each has been flanderized to their base gimmicks a little more.
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fusespliff posted...

I sat through 500+ episodes because my friend really wanted me to like it. The horrendous pacing destroys everything enjoyable about the show IMO. It was painful while binging, I can't imagine what it's like for longtime fans watching it on a weekly basis for nearly 20 years.

There is absolutely no reason to watch the anime after Enies Lobby. That's when the "Oh shit we're catching up to the manga" attitude takes over and everything slows to a snail's pace. The manga keeps the pacing going, even if there are still some long arcs.
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There will be a treasure of some kind, but the camera will pan away or only show their reactions to it, and we'll never see it.
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SmidgeIsntBack posted...

fusespliff posted...

I sat through 500+ episodes because my friend really wanted me to like it. The horrendous pacing destroys everything enjoyable about the show IMO. It was painful while binging, I can't imagine what it's like for longtime fans watching it on a weekly basis for nearly 20 years.

There is absolutely no reason to watch the anime after Enies Lobby. That's when the "Oh shit we're catching up to the manga" attitude takes over and everything slows to a snail's pace. The manga keeps the pacing going, even if there are still some long arcs.

I think I watched past Fishman Island. I want to check out the manga as I do like the early Dragon Ball adventure feel the show has, but I feel like the black and white artwork isn't suited for such a colorful cast.
This will probably a travesty to fans...I got the most enjoyment out of its story and cast playing Pirate Warriors 3.
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you can always read the digitally colored manga, it's on kiss manga and holymanga

i just watch the anime as a supplement, i've given up the good fight on the anime

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some of my buds are obsessed with One Piece (both the manga and anime). like everytime i hang out with them, they always gotta bring this up in conversations one way or another and they can go on for hours. i tried getting into it but... i just dont get it.

pinky0926 posted...

My original thought was that it would literally be a one piece swimsuit, but after 20 years that would be a pretty stale punchline.

In fact it's been so long now I don't know what could be not lame. Is it gonna be some existential concept, like the spirit of friendship or adventure or whatever?

So if One Piece was just an existential concept then what is The Will of D?

@ZevLoveDOOM
ZevLoveDOOM posted...

some of my buds are obsessed with One Piece (both the manga and anime). like everytime i hang out with them, they always gotta bring this up in conversations one way or another and they can go on for hours. i tried getting into it but... i just dont get it.

Out of the shonen battle manga its definitely the best. Its has everything you could want out of a series like this. Awesome fights, good humor, cool worldbuilding, a sense of adventure and a fair amount of tragedy. Its really entertaining, especially if you read through the manga quickly instead of watching the anime

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pinky0926 posted...

SmidgeIsntBack posted...

I loved those early chapters where it was just Luffy and Zoro. They have my favorite chemistry of the crew.

One thing that makes me sad now is that there's less of that golden camaraderie now, or at least it seems that way. So many characters in the crew that each has been flanderized to their base gimmicks a little more.

that is... not true

while not all the characters have that much time on the page (especially post-timeskip), they still seem largely consistent.

sanji and usopp have both had cool character growth moments, and Franky won a fight by suplexing his opponent into subrission. what more do you want?
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ZevLoveDOOM posted...

some of my buds are obsessed with One Piece (both the manga and anime). like everytime i hang out with them, they always gotta bring this up in conversations one way or another and they can go on for hours. i tried getting into it but... i just dont get it.

read the digitally colored manga

after a certain point you find you just can't stop because you want to see what happens next (if you haven't been spoiled) and next thing you know you're a fan

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"The real treasure was the friends you made along the way!"
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averagejoel posted...

that is... not true

while not all the characters have that much time on the page (especially post-timeskip), they still seem largely consistent.

sanji and usopp have both had cool character growth moments, and Franky won a fight by suplexing his opponent into subrission. what more do you want?

That's exactly it. Less time on page = less of that golden camaraderie I was talking about. It feels a bit more like each character only has time to get out their gimmick sometimes.

I've been watching Alabasta recently - Luffy was definitely a little smarter back then.
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pinky0926 posted...

That's exactly it. Less time on page = less of that golden camaraderie I was talking about. It feels a bit more like each character only has time to get out their gimmick sometimes.

I've been watching Alabasta recently - Luffy was definitely a little smarter back then.

He's been a lot more serious post timeskip what are ya talkin about.

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Akagami_Shanks posted...

He's been a lot more serious post timeskip what are ya talkin about.

This

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One Piece will be about the void century
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my theory is less about what One Piece is, and more about what happens when they get to Laugh-tale:

the Straw Hats find the treasure, then by some fluke Buggy gets it and becomes pirate king
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the friends they made and the adventures they had along the way

Kaiganeer posted...

the friends they made and the adventures they had along the way

It is pretty much this. Except in a better more physical way. Everything in the world that the King of the Pirates finds is One Piece. Because wherever the King of the Pirates goes, everything and everyone belongs to him, just based on how he acts. Which is why Luffy is already the King of the Pirates.

It's based on what Gold Rogers says in every episode. "I left everything I own in one piece." Because everywhere he goes everything is his. And he just leaves it alone, in one piece without messing with it.
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MrNintendo1213 posted...

Kaiganeer posted...

the friends they made and the adventures they had along the way

It is pretty much this. Except in a better more physical way. Everything in the world that the King of the Pirates finds is One Piece. Because wherever the King of the Pirates goes, everything and everyone belongs to him, just based on how he acts. Which is why Luffy is already the King of the Pirates.

It's based on what Gold Rogers says in every episode. "I left everything I own in one piece." Because everywhere he goes everything is his. And he just leaves it alone, in one piece without messing with it.

Sorry to burst your bubble but that is certainly a translation mistake. He actually said "in that place".
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pinky0926 posted...

MrNintendo1213 posted...

Kaiganeer posted...

the friends they made and the adventures they had along the way

It is pretty much this. Except in a better more physical way. Everything in the world that the King of the Pirates finds is One Piece. Because wherever the King of the Pirates goes, everything and everyone belongs to him, just based on how he acts. Which is why Luffy is already the King of the Pirates.

It's based on what Gold Rogers says in every episode. "I left everything I own in one piece." Because everywhere he goes everything is his. And he just leaves it alone, in one piece without messing with it.

Sorry to burst your bubble but that is certainly a translation mistake. He actually said "in that place".

yeah the "in one piece" thing is from the intro to the 4kids dub
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I'm sure it won't be treasure but just something Roger valued more than gold like a toy that inspired him to be a pirate.

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Also here's another guess. When they get to laugh-tale and do whatever happens on that island, they will find a huge mountain of treasure. And everyone is gonna think that's it, that's the One Piece treasure.

But actually it'll be something else entirely.
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averagejoel posted...

pinky0926 posted...

MrNintendo1213 posted...

Kaiganeer posted...

the friends they made and the adventures they had along the way

It is pretty much this. Except in a better more physical way. Everything in the world that the King of the Pirates finds is One Piece. Because wherever the King of the Pirates goes, everything and everyone belongs to him, just based on how he acts. Which is why Luffy is already the King of the Pirates.

It's based on what Gold Rogers says in every episode. "I left everything I own in one piece." Because everywhere he goes everything is his. And he just leaves it alone, in one piece without messing with it.

Sorry to burst your bubble but that is certainly a translation mistake. He actually said "in that place".

yeah the "in one piece" thing is from the intro to the 4kids dub

Isnt it like one place though? Even when I watched it subbed I never read it say "that place". I think it still fits. Also why would the show even be called One Piece then? Pretty sneaky sis.

And it's weird that I still here the 4kids intro when I think of Gold Rogers despite watching way more of the funimation version.
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One piece is actually Helium gases.

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Friendship.

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I'd just like to reiterate that the anime is a bad way to consume One Piece. (Besides the music).

No reason to do yourself the disservice of time slot padding and filler on a series of its sheer scale.
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Megaman50100 posted...

I'd just like to reiterate that the anime is a bad way to consume One Piece. (Besides the music).

No reason to do yourself the disservice of time slot padding and filler on a series of its sheer scale.

I constantly hear this but I prefer the anime to the manga. Shrug.

Padding issues aside I think the comedy pops better with the amazing voice actors they've got going on. And the music is great.
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pinky0926 posted...

Megaman50100 posted...

I'd just like to reiterate that the anime is a bad way to consume One Piece. (Besides the music).

No reason to do yourself the disservice of time slot padding and filler on a series of its sheer scale.

I constantly hear this but I prefer the anime to the manga. Shrug.

Padding issues aside I think the comedy pops better with the amazing voice actors they've got going on. And the music is great.

Definitely agreed for Franky in japanese.
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Remember this scene:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kohraW3rj3M

That's why the anime is/was great
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The filler scene when Franky is running on tea instead of cola is probably the best thing the anime ever did.
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