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gna647
11/22/19 7:31:33 AM
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I apologize for thinking death Stranding will be a master piece

Holy shit
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Zombified_Toast
11/22/19 7:32:14 AM
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You're entitled to your opinion.

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KillerSlaw
11/22/19 7:54:02 AM
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The important thing is that you realized it.
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blablablax17
11/22/19 7:58:02 AM
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I had a blast with DS.
Your loss.
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REMercsChamp
11/22/19 7:59:33 AM
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I had high hopes for Death Stranding

Even when the reviews came out and said it was mostly a cargo delivering slog, I still gave it a chance

When I was playing the game and low and behold, it was a slog, I still didn't give up thinking there would be pay off at the end

I just beat the game last night and all I feel is massive disappointment. I'll never bother with a Kojima game ever again

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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
11/22/19 8:00:48 AM
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yes the failed movie director who wanted his games to be "realistic" is terrible. we know
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CyricZ
11/22/19 8:03:13 AM
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There's certainly support for the topic title. Kojima has legitimate and OBVIOUS problems with his writing that range from the annoying to the hilarious (largely depending on one's mood at the time). He's been a punchline for decades.

At least he's able to get his vision, unbelievably flawed though it is, into a workable result.

I haven't play Death Stranding yet, so I'm not gonna pass judgment on it.

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Mistere Man
11/22/19 8:03:26 AM
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What is the Death Stranding? I mean does it explain what they are, and what is causing it in the game?
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REMercsChamp
11/22/19 8:05:30 AM
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Mistere Man posted...
What is the Death Stranding? I mean does it explain what they are, and what is causing it in the game?
Yes and it's ridiculous and I think the writer was on meth tbh

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Error1355
11/22/19 8:07:00 AM
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I'm loving playing the game and building up roads and doing deliveries to make people 5 stars.

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Mistere Man
11/22/19 8:08:08 AM
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REMercsChamp posted...
Mistere Man posted...
What is the Death Stranding? I mean does it explain what they are, and what is causing it in the game?
Yes and it's ridiculous and I think the writer was on meth tbh

That is good to hear I really hate when they just never even try to explain anything.
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REMercsChamp
11/22/19 8:08:50 AM
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Mistere Man posted...
That is good to hear I really hate when they just never even try to explain anything.
In this case it would have been better if they didn't try to explain it

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Mistere Man
11/22/19 8:09:20 AM
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Lol!
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Malfunction
11/22/19 8:11:25 AM
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It literally makes no sense to call him a hack
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Kaliesto
11/22/19 8:14:36 AM
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It fills me with glee the haters will have to deal with Hideo for at least 10 more years before he retires fully. hehehehe

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KillerSlaw
11/22/19 8:23:12 AM
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Kaliesto posted...
It fills me with glee the haters will have to deal with Hideo for at least 10 more years before he retires fully. hehehehe


I thought he said he is finally moving on to movies though?
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ledbowman
11/22/19 8:28:07 AM
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Malfunction posted...
It literally makes no sense to call him a hack

But it makes them feel smart
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Kaliesto
11/22/19 8:28:15 AM
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KillerSlaw posted...
I thought he said he is finally moving on to movies though?


Oh he is? Still, they will never be rid of Hideo. lol

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KillerSlaw
11/22/19 8:33:15 AM
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Kaliesto posted...
Oh he is? Still, they will never be rid of Hideo. lol


I'll be honest, I have more of an issue with his cult than the man himself. I still enjoyed most of his games despite the increasing amount of flaws they had as they went along.
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soulunison2
11/22/19 8:39:56 AM
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Death stranding is a game for GENIUSES its obvious why you guys didnt get his vision /s
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Kolibri X
11/22/19 8:41:46 AM
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Plebs filtered.
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AlisLandale
11/22/19 8:55:07 AM
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I have you tagged as 2077 flop, elden/ds hit

Now to be fair, Death Stranding has had a pretty strong impact despite how divisive its been. Will probably go down as a fan/cult classic.

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Touch
11/22/19 8:59:33 AM
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Kaliesto posted...
It fills me with glee the haters will have to deal with Hideo for at least 10 more years before he retires fully. hehehehe
This tbh

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Frizzurd
11/22/19 11:05:18 AM
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I never liked Metal Gear or Final Fantasy.
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MC_BatCommander
11/22/19 11:08:43 AM
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Mistere Man posted...
What is the Death Stranding? I mean does it explain what they are, and what is causing it in the game?


It was an apocalyptic kind of event where ghost like things showed up and whenever they touched a human corpse it would cause a nuclear size explosion or something.

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Romulox28
11/22/19 11:10:32 AM
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Die Hardman
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Solid_Seb
11/22/19 11:10:47 AM
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Frizzurd posted...
I never liked Metal Gear or Final Fantasy.

He didn't make FF
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Smashingpmkns
11/22/19 11:13:23 AM
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He's easily the best and most ambitious game dev in the industry.
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vigorm0rtis
11/22/19 11:15:19 AM
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What I played of DS, I liked more than I've liked anything else that Kojima has ever done (with the possible exception of P.T.).


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vigorm0rtis
11/22/19 11:16:50 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
He's easily the best and most ambitious game dev in the industry.


He's a storyteller who relies on the objectively shittiest form of storytelling human beings have ever devised: "tell don't show."

If he were ambitious, he'd know that form of narrative is universally garbage and only suited for bad children's books.

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Smashingpmkns
11/22/19 11:21:54 AM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
He's easily the best and most ambitious game dev in the industry.


He's a storyteller who relies on the objectively shittiest form of storytelling human beings have ever devised: "tell don't show."

If he were ambitious, he'd know that form of narrative is universally garbage and only suited for bad children's books.


Plenty of great examples of well regarded media across the board have heavily relied on exposition. A lot of scifi like Dune.

Kojima shows and tells, and it works great for the video game medium, especially with ideas as big as Kojimas. But there's a lot more to game making than the story.
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BakonBitz
11/22/19 11:22:31 AM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
He's a storyteller who relies on the objectively shittiest form of storytelling human beings have ever devised: "tell don't show."

If he were ambitious, he'd know that form of narrative is universally garbage and only suited for bad children's books.

On the other hand he has a knack for cinematic flair and dramatic camera angles. And he has pretty good ideas for story, he just needs editors.
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vigorm0rtis
11/22/19 11:23:43 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Plenty of great examples of well regarded media across the board have heavily relied on exposition. A lot of scifi like Dune.

Kojima shows and tells, and it works great for the video game medium, especially with ideas as big as Kojimas. But there's a lot more to game making than the story.


Exposition is all Kojima does. Go read Dune again and realize that exposition is maybe 10% of the narrative.


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Smashingpmkns
11/22/19 11:26:36 AM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Plenty of great examples of well regarded media across the board have heavily relied on exposition. A lot of scifi like Dune.

Kojima shows and tells, and it works great for the video game medium, especially with ideas as big as Kojimas. But there's a lot more to game making than the story.


Exposition is all Kojima does. Go read Dune again and realize that exposition is maybe 10% of the narrative.



Neither of those things are true lol
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sylverlolol
11/22/19 11:27:44 AM
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REMercsChamp posted...
I had high hopes for Death Stranding

Even when the reviews came out and said it was mostly a cargo delivering slog, I still gave it a chance

When I was playing the game and low and behold, it was a slog, I still didn't give up thinking there would be pay off at the end

I just beat the game last night and all I feel is massive disappointment. I'll never bother with a Kojima game ever again
lmao shut the fuck up...you're too busy whining about women to ever have time to play a game, let alone one as lengthy as DS

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LadyVyxx
11/22/19 11:28:54 AM
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Regardless of your views about DS the fact remains that MGS 1-3 are masterpieces
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vigorm0rtis
11/22/19 11:29:03 AM
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BakonBitz posted...
On the other hand he has a knack for cinematic flair and dramatic camera angles. And he has pretty good ideas for story, he just needs editors.


I'm an editor, and I'd suggest that yeah, he needs an editor, but that editor needs a leash and a spray bottle to keep Kojima from sabotaging his own material. DS could have been solid narrative. It's solidly in the New Weird tradition, but does the one thing New Weird creators know not to do: explain (or in Kojima's case, over-explain) material, particularly when you haven't fully developed the idea.

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ScazarMeltex
11/22/19 11:31:09 AM
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LadyVyxx posted...
Regardless of your views about DS the fact remains that MGS 1-3 are masterpieces

This. To call the guy a hack is just hyperbole of the greatest absurdity. Guy had a vision, it didn't pan out, he's had plenty of times where it did.
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vigorm0rtis
11/22/19 11:31:50 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Neither of those things are true lol


No, I get it, you didn't actually read Dune.

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Smashingpmkns
11/22/19 11:33:48 AM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
Neither of those things are true lol


No, I get it, you didn't actually read Dune.


You're literally proving that you didnt read it lol but aight.
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ledbowman
11/22/19 12:36:06 PM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
He's easily the best and most ambitious game dev in the industry.


He's a storyteller who relies on the objectively shittiest form of storytelling human beings have ever devised: "tell don't show."

If he were ambitious, he'd know that form of narrative is universally garbage and only suited for bad children's books.

It's perfectly suited for Metal Gear Solid
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