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HornedLion
11/19/19 4:58:01 PM
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Way down. Whatever drug deal the democrats have cooking up... the American people arent buying it. - Devin Nunes



These guys arent even trying to defend anymore. Theyve gone full blown Troll Mode.
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Mead
11/19/19 4:59:29 PM
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Were you ever explicitly told to bribe or extort??? No?

Case closed then take that librals.
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HornedLion
11/19/19 6:36:40 PM
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Dems strategy: Trump abused his power by withholding aid from Ukraine in return for an investigation into his political rival.

GOP strategy: Trump gave Ukraine more aid than Obama did. *mic drop*


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Metalsonic66
11/19/19 6:38:59 PM
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We need more Poochy

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Judgmenl
11/19/19 6:42:31 PM
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I have no idea who Devin Nunes but I doubt he's any better than orange man.
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supness420
11/19/19 6:42:58 PM
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"I think one side is less corrupt than the other... I really like to show my stupidity!"

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Mead
11/19/19 6:44:26 PM
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supness420 posted...
"I think one side is less corrupt than the other... I really like to show my stupidity!"


If you dont realize that one side is far more corrupt than the other, you really need to pay more attention.
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BeerOnTap
11/19/19 6:48:07 PM
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You guys think this is the one thatll finally get Trump huh? Theyre going to need stronger witnesses than what they got. And its so painfully obvious this whole thing has been orchestrated. The coup has begun.

If this delivers anything less than the removal of Trump from office (and it wont) theres a major chance this will backfire big time on the left at the polls come 2020.
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Mead
11/19/19 6:51:23 PM
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BeerOnTap posted...
You guys think this is the one thatll finally get Trump huh? Theyre going to need stronger witnesses than what they got. And its so painfully obvious this whole thing has been orchestrated. The coup has begun.

If this delivers anything less than the removal of Trump from office (and it wont) theres a major chance this will backfire big time on the left at the polls come 2020.


Funny that you cant address the fact that what Trump did was blatantly corrupt and wrong

Literally worse than Nixons crimes
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HornedLion
11/19/19 6:58:48 PM
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Mead posted...
BeerOnTap posted...
You guys think this is the one thatll finally get Trump huh? Theyre going to need stronger witnesses than what they got. And its so painfully obvious this whole thing has been orchestrated. The coup has begun.

If this delivers anything less than the removal of Trump from office (and it wont) theres a major chance this will backfire big time on the left at the polls come 2020.


Funny that you cant address the fact that what Trump did was blatantly corrupt and wrong

Literally worse than Nixons crimes


Whats really funny is that they think the Dems are expecting this impeachment to succeed.

The more corrupt shit Trump and the GOP do, the more the Blue Wave grows. We saw it in 2018, and again this year. The timing of this impeachment is no mistake. This will go to the Senate and it will FAIL. But that wasnt the end game... that wasnt the goal... the goal is the 2020 election.

Too complicated? Heres a visual for you.

https://youtu.be/eCytRCKhffs
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BeerOnTap
11/19/19 7:05:20 PM
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Mead posted...
BeerOnTap posted...
You guys think this is the one thatll finally get Trump huh? Theyre going to need stronger witnesses than what they got. And its so painfully obvious this whole thing has been orchestrated. The coup has begun.

If this delivers anything less than the removal of Trump from office (and it wont) theres a major chance this will backfire big time on the left at the polls come 2020.


Funny that you cant address the fact that what Trump did was blatantly corrupt and wrong

Literally worse than Nixons crimes


I cant?
Conditioning aid to a country on whether or not theyre willing to investigate a political rival is abhorrent. I think everyone should agree on that.

But it hasnt been proven that is what happened yet, has it? So far it seems that Trump just asked them to investigate corruption in general, and if Ukraine played a roll in influencing the US election. The witnesses attesting that trump mentioned Biden specifically have shaky credibility at best.

(Side note: we shouldnt be giving any aide to any country when we are 23 trillion in debt, but thats unrelated).
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Mead
11/19/19 7:16:57 PM
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BeerOnTap posted...
But it hasnt been proven that is what happened yet, has it?


Its literally in the transcript that the White House released. Mick Mulvaney bragged about it and said to get over it in a press conference. There is no other explanation for the president to have unlawfully withheld the bipartisan approved aid from congress.

Jesus fucking Christ do you folks on the right seriously need a note in Trumps handwriting that says Ukraine u only get money if you beat up Biden, I do bribe lol before you can recognize the plain as day facts for what they are?
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Lil69Leo
11/19/19 7:26:35 PM
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Mead posted...
BeerOnTap posted...
You guys think this is the one thatll finally get Trump huh? Theyre going to need stronger witnesses than what they got. And its so painfully obvious this whole thing has been orchestrated. The coup has begun.

If this delivers anything less than the removal of Trump from office (and it wont) theres a major chance this will backfire big time on the left at the polls come 2020.


Funny that you cant address the fact that what Trump did was blatantly corrupt and wrong

Literally worse than Nixons crimes


Nixon commited Treason before being elected. Trump is pretty close to that but not confirmed obviously.
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BeerOnTap
11/19/19 7:28:38 PM
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Mead posted...
BeerOnTap posted...
But it hasnt been proven that is what happened yet, has it?


Its literally in the transcript that the White House released. Mick Mulvaney bragged about it and said to get over it in a press conference. There is no other explanation for the president to have unlawfully withheld the bipartisan approved aid from congress.

Jesus fucking Christ do you folks on the right seriously need a note in Trumps handwriting that says Ukraine u only get money if you beat up Biden, I do bribe lol before you can recognize the plain as day facts for what they are?


The transcript did not mention Biden as a condition. Youre incorrect. And Mick Mulvaney was talking about how conditions are placed on aide all the time.

With that said, if it is proven that Trump did indeed explicitly push for them to investigate Biden specifically, then yes that is impeachable. And Ill be right there with you rooting for his impeachment. Please dont misunderstand that. But the problem is, the notion that he directly made Biden a condition for the aide is, so far, just hearsay.

Edit: also Im not on the right. Im a conservative leaning libertarian.
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HornedLion
11/19/19 7:39:00 PM
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BeerOnTap posted...
Conditioning aid to a country on whether or not theyre willing to investigate a political rival is abhorrent. I think everyone should agree on that.

But it hasnt been proven that is what happened yet, has it?


In Trumps own release of the call summary it describes exactly that! He goes into a whole thing about how great weve been to them but it hasnt been reciprocal. And then IMMEDIATELY goes into I need you to do me a favor, though. And THEN goes into Biden.


So far it seems that Trump just asked them to investigate corruption in general, and if Ukraine played a roll in influencing the US election.


On one call he never once mentioned corruption but he did mention the Bidens a bunch of times.

In 3 years weve heard him talk about a lot of weird ass, crazy shit. Mexican Caranvans that have middle eastern terrorists hidden within them. Buying Greenland. Rogue assassins killing Journalists. But never once, until now, have we heard about corruption. And even in front of the news cameras he cant stick to that talking point and goes into a rant about investigating the Bidens and how China should too!

The witnesses attesting that trump mentioned Biden specifically have shaky credibility at best.


Shaky credibility? AT BEST!? Are you seriously keeping up with these impeachment proceedings or just saying stuff like that to get responses like this from folks like me on the internet?

The witnesses have been career long officials. And the American people could have heard from witnesses closest to the president. Like Mulvaney, Pompeo, Giuliani, etc. But... where are they? Oh! Trump, who is so very innocent, has stopped them from testifying in a coequal branch of governments impeachment proceedings.

Just like he hasnt released his taxes because hes STILL under audit.

(Side note: we shouldnt be giving any aide to any country when we are 23 trillion in debt, but thats unrelated).


23 Trillion. Yup. Exploded after giving the rich and corporations a huge tax cut. And not a damn bit has trickled down as it was attested.
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papercup
11/19/19 7:39:28 PM
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It's weird how people that claim to "not be on the right" are the quickest to swallow the right's bs.
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Yellow
11/19/19 8:15:41 PM
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Well I'm happy that all of congress is wasting their time. It's not like they'd do anything good with it, so bickering is a step up.

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BeerOnTap
11/19/19 8:21:00 PM
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HornedLion posted...


23 Trillion. Yup. Exploded after giving the rich and corporations a huge tax cut. And not a damn bit has trickled down as it was attested.


The most was spent under Obamas tenure. And yes, the economy and job market are booming right now. But yeah, how dare people be allowed to keep their money that they earned and not have all of it stolen by force.
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HornedLion
11/19/19 8:23:28 PM
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BeerOnTap posted...
HornedLion posted...


23 Trillion. Yup. Exploded after giving the rich and corporations a huge tax cut. And not a damn bit has trickled down as it was attested.


The most was spent under Obamas tenure. And yes, the economy and job market are booming right now. But yeah, how dare people be allowed to keep their money that they earned and not have all of it stolen by force.


I know, right? How are those corporations and the rich be able to survive when we tax them 2 cents on every dollar they make over $25M!?

Theyll be forced to buy a 2019 yacht while all their richer friends got the new 2020.
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Mead
11/19/19 8:24:03 PM
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BeerOnTap posted...
HornedLion posted...


23 Trillion. Yup. Exploded after giving the rich and corporations a huge tax cut. And not a damn bit has trickled down as it was attested.


The most was spent under Obamas tenure. And yes, the economy and job market are booming right now. But yeah, how dare people be allowed to keep their money that they earned and not have all of it stolen by force.


Thank goodness weve got conservative legislators working tirelessly to make sure that billionaires rarely have to pay a dime of their money

They are the truly oppressed
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