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Duncanwii
11/18/19 2:56:41 PM
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Regardless of the circumstances of the future if human society survives it is better then one where it goes extinct

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Duncanwii
11/18/19 3:04:29 PM
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As we have no evidence of sentient life in this universe the human race is the most precious item in the entire known universe. To destroy it is a disservice to the cosmos and an end to the most extraordinary species that has ever been known. It is selfish to believe we as a species should be destroyed.

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ChrisTaka
11/18/19 3:06:19 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
As we have no evidence of sentient life in this universe the human race is the most precious item in the entire known universe. To destroy it is a disservice to the cosmos and an end to the most extraordinary species that has ever been known. It is selfish to believe we as a species should be destroyed.


Ok Jimmy Neutron
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TheDreadedWave
11/18/19 3:06:42 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
It is selfish to believe we as a species should be destroyed.
No one believes that, the world isn't a JRPG

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Duncanwii
11/18/19 3:07:18 PM
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TheDreadedWave posted...
No one believes that, the world isn't a JRPG
I believe that.

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The Trent
11/18/19 3:07:44 PM
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you also believe in your imaginary girlfriend bro
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darkphoenix181
11/18/19 3:08:32 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
As we have no evidence of sentient life in this universe the human race is the most precious item in the entire known universe. To destroy it is a disservice to the cosmos and an end to the most extraordinary species that has ever been known. It is selfish to believe we as a species should be destroyed.


Unless God exists then how can the cosmos value anything?
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Duncanwii
11/18/19 3:12:33 PM
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The Trent posted...
you also believe in your imaginary girlfriend bro
Dude I've repeatedly posted proof she exists.

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Strider102
11/18/19 3:14:08 PM
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If humanity survives Earth dies.

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malenz
11/18/19 3:17:02 PM
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Not if everyone is trapped into a literal hell kept going by AI and machinery to suffer as much as possible.
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Duncanwii
11/18/19 3:22:55 PM
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malenz posted...
Not if everyone is trapped into a literal hell kept going by AI and machinery to suffer as much as possible.
Good thing that is sci fi garbage unlikely to ever happen in real life.

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malenz
11/18/19 3:25:26 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
malenz posted...
Not if everyone is trapped into a literal hell kept going by AI and machinery to suffer as much as possible.
Good thing that is sci fi garbage unlikely to ever happen in real life.

please calm down
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ScazarMeltex
11/18/19 3:27:00 PM
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What a bunch of pseudo intellectual garbage. So long as humans are at the top of the food chain here on earth we are making species go extinct at a record rate. By your own logic humanity should die off so that an infinitely larger number of animal and plant species won't die out.
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DarkChozoGhost
11/18/19 3:32:56 PM
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Nuclear war would not be the result of us standing up to China over the treatment of HK
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Duncanwii
11/18/19 3:34:10 PM
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Its possible I had a good thought but now I don't know where I'm going with this. Just, outlaw nukes. Ok?

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Strider102
11/18/19 3:36:53 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
No. My logic is that humanity is above animals and plants on the grounds we are infinitely smarter then them. No other animal on this planet can create a functioning city. Ants and Termites can create a faux city but they don't have the intelligence or intellect to do anything with it. Dolphins, Elephants, and other Primates come close in that they have the intelligence but not the know how. They can't write books or build a computer. But Elephants can paint paintings. My point is we should save Elephants and Primates too since they are capable of culture.


So a world without plants or animals excluding elephants and primates.

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ScazarMeltex
11/18/19 3:39:34 PM
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I would argue that if humanity was stupid enough to blast itself off the planet witb weapo s it created itself, then it probably doesnt deserve to be preserved.
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Duncanwii
11/18/19 3:40:21 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
I would argue that if humanity was stupid enough to blast itself off the planet witb weapo s it created itself, then it probably doesnt deserve to be preserved.
This would only happen if humanity is stupid enough to tick off a country that has nukes.

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Pepys Monster
11/18/19 3:43:45 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
As we have no evidence of sentient life in this universe the human race is the most precious item in the entire known universe. To destroy it is a disservice to the cosmos and an end to the most extraordinary species that has ever been known. It is selfish to believe we as a species should be destroyed.

It is selfish to believe that we as a species are extraordinary.
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Duncanwii
11/18/19 3:44:47 PM
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Pepys Monster posted...
It is selfish to believe that we as a species are extraordinary.
By what merit?

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AwesomeToTheMAX
11/18/19 3:48:25 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
The Trent posted...
you also believe in your imaginary girlfriend bro
Dude I've repeatedly posted proof she exists.


She exists but she's not your girlfriend
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Punctus_Pilot
11/18/19 3:50:05 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
I would argue that if humanity was stupid enough to blast itself off the planet witb weapo s it created itself, then it probably doesnt deserve to be preserved.
This would only happen if humanity is stupid enough to tick off a country that has nukes.

That's not a threat in the way you think it is. Even if we declared war against China. Even if we sent aircraft carriers and put a blockade around their ports. Even if we started firing at military targets. Even if we did all this unprovoked. They would not use nukes.

MAD ensures that nobody will. Even somewhere totally insane like North Korea decided to use nukes, they would be completely obliterated before they could use more.
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Pepys Monster
11/18/19 3:51:05 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
Pepys Monster posted...
It is selfish to believe that we as a species are extraordinary.
By what merit?

"My species is extraordinary." You're just stroking your own ego.
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Duncanwii
11/18/19 3:51:27 PM
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Punctus_Pilot posted...
That's not a threat in the way you think it is. Even if we declared war against China. Even if we sent aircraft carriers and put a blockade around their ports. Even if we started firing at military targets. Even if we did all this unprovoked. They would not use nukes.

MAD ensures that nobody will. Even somewhere totally insane like North Korea decided to use nukes, they would be completely obliterated before they could use more.
Its better to not risk it at all rather then take chances with the devil.

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Punctus_Pilot
11/18/19 3:56:41 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
Its better to not risk it at all rather then take chances with the devil.

No, it is not. Obviously we shouldn't outright attack them for no reason or anything, but we should hold them accountable for their actions.

It is evil and wrong to side with China on their treatment of Hong Kong. If your stance on Hong Kong is "I'm not taking sides," that is immoral. It makes you a bad person even if it's motivated by a (completely misplaced) fear of nuclear war.
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Duncanwii
11/18/19 4:00:32 PM
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Punctus_Pilot posted...
No, it is not. Obviously we shouldn't outright attack them for no reason or anything, but we should hold them accountable for their actions.

It is evil and wrong to side with China on their treatment of Hong Kong. If your stance on Hong Kong is "I'm not taking sides," that is immoral. It makes you a bad person even if it's motivated by a (completely misplaced) fear of nuclear war.
Then I guess I'm a bad person because my opinion is still "I have no opinion."

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Punctus_Pilot
11/18/19 4:06:09 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
Then I guess I'm a bad person

Correct, it's a very cut and dry issue. Letting China have their way is causing far, far more harm to the world than standing up to them would in any remotely plausible scenario. Let
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Duncanwii
11/18/19 4:10:41 PM
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Punctus_Pilot posted...
Correct, it's a very cut and dry issue. Letting China have their way is causing far, far more harm to the world than standing up to them would in any remotely plausible scenario. Let
Thankfully for me I dont give two craps about if anyone cares about my political opinion (or lack thereof.)

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DevsBro
11/18/19 4:12:08 PM
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Depends on who you ask, I guess.

Literally everything other than humans would be much better off if society collapsed, for example.

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PleaseClap
11/18/19 4:13:10 PM
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Saying that youre Not taking sides is still taking a side
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Funkydog
11/18/19 4:14:12 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
As we have no evidence of sentient life in this universe the human race is the most precious item in the entire known universe.

If we aren't sentient, then why are we more precious than any other animal? (Also, you likely don't mean sentience I assume? Animals are sentient.)
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DevsBro
11/18/19 4:14:51 PM
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And hell, lots of humans would be better off if society collapsed.

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Duncanwii
11/18/19 4:19:06 PM
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PleaseClap posted...
Saying that youre Not taking sides is still taking a side
No it isnt

DevsBro posted...
And hell, lots of humans would be better off if society collapsed.
How do you figure? You're wrong, but how?

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LightningAce11
11/18/19 4:20:14 PM
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Dude shut the fuck up dude you're a little kid.
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Duncanwii
11/18/19 4:21:23 PM
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LightningAce11 posted...
Dude shut the fuck up dude you're a little kid.
Mathematically that statement is wrong.

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DezDroppedFreak
11/18/19 4:33:39 PM
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PleaseClap posted...
Saying that youre Not taking sides is still taking a side

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Duncanwii
11/18/19 4:35:56 PM
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Saying that youre Not taking sides is still taking a side


No. It isnt.

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MC_BatCommander
11/18/19 4:36:12 PM
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Wow Duncan that's some amazing philosophy

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DeadBankerDream
11/18/19 4:36:31 PM
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So what horribly thing is Duncan setting up an excuse for with this logic?

Sucking off Russia in perpetuity?
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DezDroppedFreak
11/18/19 4:36:57 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
Saying that youre Not taking sides is still taking a side


No. It isnt.

Yes it is. You can choose not to decide, but youve still made a choice. Complacency

I mean I dont expect you to be able to think about shit critically because your response to not worrying about climate change was essentially well MY house wont flood so who cares

Yet here you are again on the nuclear boogeyman
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Duncanwii
11/18/19 4:38:09 PM
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DezDroppedFreak posted...
Yes it is. You can choose not to decide, but youve still made a choice. Complacency
Ok? And? It isnt my fight.

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DezDroppedFreak
11/18/19 4:38:55 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
DezDroppedFreak posted...
Yes it is. You can choose not to decide, but youve still made a choice. Complacency
Ok? And? It isnt my fight.

Then youve made your choice. You are taking the side of the oppressor by being complacent.

Because of a nuclear boogeyman
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Duncanwii
11/18/19 4:43:54 PM
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DezDroppedFreak posted...
Because of a nuclear boogeyman
It isnt a boogeyman. China and Russia both have enough nukes to turn every inch of this country unlivable for thousands of years.

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