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Monolith1676
11/15/19 1:59:06 PM
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As Samuel L Jackson famously said, "hold onto your butts."

https://www.city-journal.org/chesa-boudin-san-francisco-anti-police-da

I think San Francisco is going to turn into the first real life Escape From esque city in the world.

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ThePrinceFish
11/15/19 2:02:13 PM
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If California cities want to vote to live in piss and shit covered streets surrounded by the homeless, then you shouldn't feel bad for them.
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Megaman50100
11/15/19 2:03:29 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
If California cities want to vote to live in piss and shit covered streets surrounded by the homeless, then you shouldn't feel bad for them.

It is their right as Americans, but I'd be surprised if they do so.
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EndOfDiscOne
11/15/19 2:04:52 PM
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Far left policies will help turn SF around
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Hop103
11/15/19 2:11:46 PM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
If California cities want to vote to live in piss and shit covered streets surrounded by the homeless, then you shouldn't feel bad for them.


You do realize people are fleeing California, which wouldn't be an issue, but they are also taking their terrible politics with them.
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Jerry_Hellyeah
11/15/19 2:12:37 PM
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But it doesnt matter what the end result is....as long as you're "nice"while doing it.
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Malfunction
11/15/19 2:13:13 PM
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Being anti police is in fact good
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s0nicfan
11/15/19 2:13:49 PM
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California needs to dial it up to 11. Let the whole country see exactly what happens when you let this shit run rampant.

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AlephZero
11/15/19 2:20:22 PM
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Abolish the police department, let neighborhoods form their own collective law enforcement.
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DifferentialEquation
11/15/19 2:23:30 PM
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Hop103 posted...
ThePrinceFish posted...
If California cities want to vote to live in piss and shit covered streets surrounded by the homeless, then you shouldn't feel bad for them.


You do realize people are fleeing California, which wouldn't be an issue, but they are also taking their terrible politics with them.


"But that wasn't real progressivism!", they'll cry.
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Were_Wyrm
11/15/19 2:24:52 PM
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Geez one loss and everyone is all gloom and doom.
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Jerry_Hellyeah
11/15/19 2:27:09 PM
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Were_Wyrm posted...
Geez one loss and everyone is all gloom and doom.


One loss? Just one? Really now
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spudger
11/15/19 2:30:22 PM
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article is citing many things without sources
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Damn_Underscore
11/15/19 2:39:16 PM
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On the eve of last weeks municipal election in San Francisco, a speaker at an event for Chesa Boudinthe eventual winner in the race for district attorneytook the microphone. Hey, so I just got one thing to say, she began. Which is fuck the POA (Police Officers Association)! San Francisco, this is what we get when we throw the fuck down. This is the city where we elect a public defender to be our district attorney. What we start here, the nation follows. So, look out.

As Fuck the POA! Fuck the POA! Fuck the POA! filled the room, the leader at the podium offered her middle finger, and many in the crowd followed suit.


That is embarrassing. This person should not be in a position of power, and that's without knowing what her policies are.
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The Admiral
11/15/19 2:41:04 PM
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Couldn't have happened to a more deserving city.
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Antifar
11/15/19 2:45:11 PM
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God bless.
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Butterfiles
11/15/19 2:45:32 PM
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It's funny because violent crime is at record lows in SF
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Broseph_Stalin
11/15/19 3:01:28 PM
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Hop103 posted...
which wouldn't be an issue, but they are also taking their terrible politics with them.
when you don't realize conservatives are the ones leaving California and you inadvertently make a good post
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Zack_Attackv1
11/15/19 3:06:36 PM
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s0nicfan
11/15/19 3:09:03 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
when you don't realize conservatives are the ones leaving California and you inadvertently make a good post


It's mostly middle class homeowners actually leaving:
https://www.curbed.com/2019/10/22/20921192/california-real-estate-housing-middle-class-affordable
The working middle class are fleeing the state, according to Kelly Cunningham of the San Diego Institute for Economic Research, due to the states dysfunctional nature. A large part of the problem is housing; per Zillow, the average house in California has risen from roughly $300,000 in 2012 to $550,000 today. Los Angeles, Riverside, and San Bernardino counties have seen massive outflow of residents over the last few years. California is becoming stratified, a statewide gentrification that is holding back economic growth and leaving the vaunted California lifestyle available to an increasingly select few who can afford it.


And in fact, over half of Californians polled are considering leaving due to high costs:
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/12/growing-number-of-californians-considering-moving-from-state-survey.html
LOS ANGELES A growing number of Californians are contemplating moving from the state and not due to wildfires or earthquakes but the sky-high cost of living, according to a survey released Wednesday.

The online survey, conducted last month by Edelman Intelligence, found that 53 percent of Californians surveyed are considering fleeing, representing a jump over the 49 percent polled a year ago. The desire to exit the nations most populous state was highest among millennials, the survey noted.



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tainted_emerald
11/15/19 3:18:37 PM
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I can understand a public defender absolutely loathing the police association.

I can also understand younger people wanting to leave a state when the average housing in decent areas is above 500k.
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Paper_Okami
11/15/19 3:25:07 PM
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libertarian techies are the reason SF is in the state it is
not "liberal policies"

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Broseph_Stalin
11/15/19 3:28:15 PM
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no one respond to Okami btw
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The Admiral
11/15/19 3:30:37 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
California needs to dial it up to 11. Let the whole country see exactly what happens when you let this shit run rampant.


It'll degrade into a shithole the way NYC was in the 80s. It will eventually get cleaned up when the rich people start leaving and tax revenue declines, which will happen about the same time the next recession hits. Whatever is left of the middle-class will elect a hard-nose conservative like Guiliani to save the city and take the common sense measures that liberal politicians are too afraid to enact.
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voldothegr8
11/15/19 3:32:07 PM
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Paper_Okami posted...
libertarian techies are the reason SF is in the state it is
not "liberal policies"

lmao
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TheMikh
11/15/19 3:33:04 PM
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Paper_Okami posted...
libertarian techies are the reason SF is in the state it is
not "liberal policies"

nothing libertarian about zoning or rent control breh
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kingdrake2
11/15/19 3:33:11 PM
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The Admiral posted...
s0nicfan posted...
California needs to dial it up to 11. Let the whole country see exactly what happens when you let this shit run rampant.


It'll degrade into a shithole the way NYC was in the 80s. It will eventually get cleaned up when the rich people start leaving and tax revenue declines, which will happen about the same time the next recession hits. Whatever is left of the middle-class will elect a hard-nose conservative like Guiliani to save the city and take the common sense measures that liberal politicians are too afraid to enact.


they're all going to come far north and turn oregon/washington into california prices for housing. it's already happening around here.
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Broseph_Stalin
11/15/19 3:33:52 PM
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The Admiral posted...
It will eventually get cleaned up when the rich people start leaving
the exact opposite of what's happening in California you mean
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Broseph_Stalin
11/15/19 3:36:17 PM
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kingdrake2 posted...
they're all going to come far north and turn oregon/washington into california prices for housing. it's already happening around here.
I hate to break this to you but housing prices are increasing in your state because you have the same stupid fucking NIMBY policies that CA does, despite thinking you're so much better than that state.

Everyone loves to blame their problems on the incredibly small number of Californians who leave California.
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AlephZero
11/15/19 3:36:23 PM
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kingdrake2 posted...
they're all going to come far north and turn oregon/washington into california prices for housing. it's already happening around here.

As long as they actually build housing it won't get as bad as California. Though with the recent wave of rent control popularity they're doing everything they can to discourage new development.
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XXmiznatorXX
11/15/19 3:36:56 PM
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Are we allowed to eat breakfast sandwiches in public, yet, though?
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kingdrake2
11/15/19 4:02:32 PM
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i'm going to continue blaming california for everything, they killed my cat almost.
actually that was due to a "californian driver".
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Monolith1676
11/16/19 2:51:09 AM
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Bump

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pres_madagascar
11/16/19 3:00:07 AM
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Hop103 posted...
You do realize people are fleeing California, which wouldn't be an issue, but they are also taking their terrible politics with them.
I'm aware. They're coming here to Arizona in significant droves. Like, a FUCK LOAD of them.

I'm really left leaning and some of these people are nuts.

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gguirao
11/16/19 3:14:16 AM
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The Castro District isn't so bad.
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Vicious_Dios
11/16/19 3:16:00 AM
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There's something about the West Coast that makes people go bonkers. Especially coastal cities. They're fucking GONE.

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Zeeak4444
11/16/19 3:19:06 AM
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Hop103 posted...
ThePrinceFish posted...
If California cities want to vote to live in piss and shit covered streets surrounded by the homeless, then you shouldn't feel bad for them.


You do realize people are fleeing California, which wouldn't be an issue, but they are also taking their terrible politics with them.


Thats odd, still seems plenty packed around here.

Oh and side note, theyre not fleeing cause of leftist policies, they flee cause the republicans are still stonewalling all construction on freeways and housing developments.

At least in SD. Literally every person I know whos fled California didnt do it cause dem liberals, they did it cause Del Mar has a strangle hold on policies that dont even affect them.
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YugiNoob
11/16/19 3:19:12 AM
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XXmiznatorXX posted...
Are we allowed to eat breakfast sandwiches in public, yet, though?

Yup. Just gotta make sure you're in an area that doesn't prohibit consuming food or beverages though. Those exist.
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SH_expert44
11/16/19 3:41:52 AM
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I4NRulez
11/16/19 4:51:42 AM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
If California cities want to vote to live in piss and shit covered streets surrounded by the homeless, then you shouldn't feel bad for them.


To be fair its just San Francisco. San Diego is trying to fix their rent and homeless problem and LA is just LA their corruption keeps it in check.
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Shadilay
11/18/19 3:02:08 AM
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SubtletyRefuge posted...
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/diarrhea-poured-on-woman-hollywood-homeless-564585101.html

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Doom_Art
11/19/19 6:46:31 PM
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Hop103 posted...
You do realize people are fleeing California, which wouldn't be an issue, but they are also taking their terrible politics with them.
I know I love it

Bringing a bit of sanity to places that used to be lost causes like Arizona, Texas, Georgia, Florida, VA, NC

It's a beautiful thing seeing those places get bluer and bluer ;)

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Duncanwii
11/19/19 8:30:18 PM
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Malfunction posted...
Being anti police is in fact good
It's, in fact, not. Police are need to hold onto the rule of law and keep society from crumbling.

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FighterStreet2
11/19/19 8:32:08 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
Malfunction posted...
Being anti police is in fact good
It's, in fact, not. Police are need to hold onto the rule of law and keep society from crumbling.


Everything you've said isn't wrong, but simply way too biased towards one side of this question
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Damn_Underscore
11/21/19 5:09:31 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
Hop103 posted...
You do realize people are fleeing California, which wouldn't be an issue, but they are also taking their terrible politics with them.
I know I love it

Bringing a bit of sanity to places that used to be lost causes like Arizona, Texas, Georgia, Florida, VA, NC

It's a beautiful thing seeing those places get bluer and bluer ;)


You know that Californians are generally NIMBY Hillary-esque Democrats rather than the left wing progressives you want, right?
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DevsBro
11/22/19 11:18:01 PM
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Hoo boy, this is certainly going to be interesting.

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Broseph_Stalin
11/24/19 6:37:37 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
You know that Californians are generally NIMBY Hillary-esque Democrats rather than the left wing progressives you want, right?
progressives are the NIMBYs lol what are you talking about?
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Damn_Underscore
11/26/19 1:48:22 PM
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Broseph_Stalin posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
You know that Californians are generally NIMBY Hillary-esque Democrats rather than the left wing progressives you want, right?
progressives are the NIMBYs lol what are you talking about?


Isn't the reason the housing crisis is so bad in California that the government refuses to give out enough building permits and also zoning laws that only allow for standard suburban housing
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