Current Events > McDonald's workers in the UK went on strike demanding $19 an hour

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https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/11/12/business/mcdonalds-protest-uk-gbr-scli-intl/index.html

Holy shit, totally disgraceful. Cant believe McDonalds doesnt just fire them all and train a bunch of homeless people to flip a burger. Could this generation get any more entitled?
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$19 an hour? Do the fucking managers even get payed that much? lol
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an increase in the price of a big mac by just a penny could pay for this pay increase worldwide

eat the rich
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One thing that the General Managers I've had at my McDonalds has told me is "Everyones replaceable"

So trying that here would just get you fired
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Luchasaurus posted...

Could this generation get any more entitled?

Ok boomer.

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If McDonalds had to pay $19/hr they'd probably just hire a burger flipper/fry cook and get rid of all the other staff and have machines take and deliver orders
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konokonohamaru posted...

If McDonalds had to pay $19/hr they'd probably just hire a burger flipper/fry cook and get rid of all the other staff and have machines take and deliver orders

God I hope so. I love using the kiosks. The less real people I have to deal with in a retail situation, the happier I am.
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I mean, I expect it's one of the most profitable companies in the world, so in a sense they could make the argument that are directly responsible for generating billions, but it's hardly an irreplacable skillset - any able bodied person can go and get a job there.

Sounds like instead of complaining to McDonald's, they need to petition UK's Parliament to enact a higher minimum wage since some positions in other fields that require far more skill and knowledge don't even pay that much.
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I think their biggest mistake was asking to be paid in a foreign currency.
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Luchasaurus posted...

Cant believe McDonalds doesnt just fire them all and train a bunch of homeless people to flip a burger.

That's what they will do, and what those workers deserve. The entire McDonalds workforce could be replaced in a week, and the replacements would probably be better.
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I do not care how much they get paid I do not like the garbage
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AlephZero posted...

an increase in the price of a big mac by just a penny could pay for this pay increase worldwide

eat the rich

This is mathematically illiterate.
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$19/hr sounds pretty fair, tbh

If fast food workers want to get paid more, why can't they not fuck up simple orders or forgot stuff?
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Funkydog posted...

I think their biggest mistake was asking to be paid in a foreign currency.

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fohstick posted...

$19/hr sounds pretty fair, tbh

They want that (roughly double the current UK minimum wage), guaranteed hours, scheduling a month in advance, and recognition of unionization.

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It is minimum wage not livable wage. If you need to make more money go back to school and work for a higher paying job.
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Not everyones livable wage is the same. If you need more to earn work more hours/jobs and/or go back to school for a higher paying job.
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Millenials are thrifty

Millennials spend too much money instead of save it

Millennials need to move out of their parents houses

Millennials should just go earn more

I can't believe Millennials are asking for higher wages

Millennials need to upskill and get qualified

Millennials need to stop spending all their money on pointless qualifications education and enter the workforce sooner

Millennials need to stop getting dead end jobs

Millennials need a goddamn job, just get a job

Honestly millennials are so entitled
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pinky0926 posted...

Millenials are thrifty

Millennials spend too much money instead of save it

Millennials need to move out of their parents houses

Millennials should just go earn more

I can't believe Millennials are asking for higher wages

Millennials need to upskill and get qualified

Millennials need to stop spending all their money on pointless qualifications education and enter the workforce sooner

Millennials need to stop getting dead end jobs

Millennials need a goddamn job, just get a job

Honestly millennials are so entitled

Must be all the participation trophies
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pinky0926 posted...

Millenials are thrifty

No one says this.
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pinky0926 posted...

Millenials are thrifty

Millennials spend too much money instead of save it

Millennials need to move out of their parents houses

Millennials should just go earn more

I can't believe Millennials are asking for higher wages

Millennials need to upskill and get qualified

Millennials need to stop spending all their money on pointless qualifications education and enter the workforce sooner

Millennials need to stop getting dead end jobs

Millennials need a goddamn job, just get a job

Honestly millennials are so entitled

You know, it's funny....

Millennials are in their mid-20s to mid 30s at this point and have kind of aged out of the "get your act together" phase. Zoomers would be the one age-appropriate to talk about this stuff now as the oldest Zoomers are already graduating college.

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Nacen posted...

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Seems kinda silly to demand to be paid nineteen dollars, in the UK.

The Admiral posted...

pinky0926 posted...

Millenials are thrifty

No one says this.

Don't they though

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/06/millennials-are-to-blame-for-sluggish-economy-raymond-james-report.html

We are ruining the economy with our impoverished spending habits
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pinky0926 posted...

The Admiral posted...

pinky0926 posted...

Millenials are thrifty

No one says this.

Don't they though

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/06/millennials-are-to-blame-for-sluggish-economy-raymond-james-report.html

We are ruining the economy with our impoverished spending habits

Not spending because they don't have money and being "thrifty" aren't the same thing.
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Let's be real though $19 an hour is high, however this is London.
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The Admiral posted...

Not spending because they don't have money and being "thrifty" aren't the same thing.

The article suggests it is because we are thrifty.

Seems like you are beginning to understand why most of the criticism levelled at Millenials is contradictory and silly to begin with
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pinky0926 posted...

The Admiral posted...

Not spending because they don't have money and being "thrifty" aren't the same thing.

Seems like you are beginning to understand why most of the criticism levelled at Millenials is contradictory and silly to begin with

Not really. Not having money because they took on 30K in college debt to get a useless major doesn't contradict anything.
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Solidarity.
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RedWhiteBlue posted...

And yet fast food places are constantly understaffed and the windows are covered with "Now Hiring" signs.

Those are actually two different things.

They're understaffed to keep labor costs down, and constantly "hiring" specifically to make damn sure any given employee is replaceable.

The Admiral posted...

Not really. Not having money because they took on 30K in college debt to get a useless major doesn't contradict anything.

Right, that pretty much summarises the entire economic problem of milennials.

Nevermind that you need a college degree for entry level jobs today.

Nevermind that social security nets have completely eroded

Nevermind that employers are offering short term contracts for skilled and unskilled work, creating uncertaintly in the workforce

Nevermind that wages have stagnated while the cost of living has soared

Nevermind that previous generations started investing in property instead of living in it

No you're right, the only problems millennials ever faced is they stupidly got that communications degree! Dumb dumbs

If only they were smarter, they wouldn't be poor
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Godnorgosh posted...

The Admiral posted...

Not really. Not having money because they took on 30K in college debt to get a useless major doesn't contradict anything.

lol at this. I think we all know where the "just get a degree and you'll be fine" mentality came from, and it wasn't millennials. That came from a generation that could follow that advice and be fine erroneously teaching their children that they could do the same.

Could it be the same generation that forced participation trophies on its children (to their great humiliation) and then blamed the children for receiving those trophies?
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Either it works or it doesn't. They'll eat richly or die poorly
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It wont work. No way unskilled burger flippers should be on higher salaries than skilled professions.
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Danish McDonald's workers already get paid more than what's being asked for here
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Working at McDonald is a low skilled job. Why do people think they should be paid so much for it?

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AlephZero posted...

an increase in the price of a big mac by just a penny could pay for this pay increase worldwide

eat the rich

Lets dive into the economics of that

Could you elaborate

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Tc please get banned already

Godnorgosh posted...

Because $19/hr is much closer to the baseline for a living wage than what McDonald's workers are currently paid in most places. And as Antifar said, Danish McDonald's workers have already successfully unionized to be able to demand higher wages. They've shown that if a collective of workers has the bargaining power to push McDonald's on this, then McDonald's can afford it. No reason they can't or shouldn't try to do it elsewhere.

To what degree should the government regulate wages

And you say "closer" as in its not high enough, why not just push to whatever your idea of high tough, im assuming high enough is an aggregate of living costs and a 40 hour work week?

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