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Xx09x7
11/21/19 7:49:19 AM
#306:


Though to add, it is suspicious how they removed the feature where mods tell you specifically why you violated the TOU. From my past experience, because they were held accountable, they would usually give you a reasonable, hard-to-argue-with reason for why you violated the TOU and were moderated.

I think cancel-culture has a bit to do with it, too. Either way I love this site, but with moderations how they are, it doesn't promote open and honest discussion.

https://www.argusleader.com/story/news/crime/2019/11/01/charles-rhines-execution-south-dakota-supreme-court-jon-sogn/4123958002/

There's a link to the original article I was referring to in the OP and throughout the topic. You can decide for yourself if you think he deserved get off of death row.
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Error1355
11/21/19 8:10:58 AM
#307:


Imagine being upset over a moderation for weeks.

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Shablagoo
11/21/19 8:30:50 AM
#308:


I have like 10 fantastic responses to that post but youd just moderate them.
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FursonaNonGrata
11/21/19 8:53:35 AM
#309:


Shablagoo posted...
I have like 10 fantastic responses to that post but youd just moderate them.



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Xx09x7
11/21/19 8:57:58 AM
#310:


Error1355 posted...
Imagine being upset over a moderation for weeks.

Not sure if you're referring to me, but personally, I'm not upset at all. And in the past when I lurked a lot I've liked you as a poster a lot Error, at least, as far as my memory lets me recall.

Same for Shotgunnova. Any other mods tho, all bets are off, don't know em.
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Coastal_elite
11/21/19 9:40:08 AM
#311:


Error1355 posted...
Imagine being upset over a moderation for weeks.


I already addressed this twice, but you ignored it man :/
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Error1355
11/21/19 9:57:27 AM
#314:


Error1355 posted...
Imagine being upset over a moderation for weeks.



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Shablagoo
11/21/19 9:58:00 AM
#315:


Archived Vegy topic in alley this morning, brutai complaint on first reply. This forum is afraid of me. I have seen its true face.

The topic lists are extended gutters and the gutters are full of lost karma and when the drains finally scab over, all the CEmen will drown.

The accumulated filth of all their adorable baby goat videos and innocuous posts that wouldnt be moderated by anyone competent will foam up about their waists and all the shitposters and trolls will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll look down and whisper "Beep bep.
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smoliske
11/21/19 10:17:59 AM
#316:


imagine actually being upset over a moderation AT ALL
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Shablagoo
11/21/19 10:22:38 AM
#317:


*Spends certain amount of time on thing each day*

*cut off from said thing out of nowhere for the next x days, weeks, whatever*


Why would you not be a bit upset? Are you guys defining the word upset differently from the way we do, or something?
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Coastal_elite
11/21/19 10:28:09 AM
#318:


Coastal_elite posted...
Error1355 posted...
Imagine being upset over a moderation for weeks.


I already addressed this twice, but you ignored it man :/


less than 20 minutes later:

Error1355 posted...
Error1355 posted...
Imagine being upset over a moderation for weeks.




This is passive-aggressive as it gets. It also makes it look like you got no argument here.
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EzeDoesIt
11/21/19 10:34:25 AM
#320:


Theyve never had any sort of argument here and their responses throughout this topic prove that completely.

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EzeDoesIt
11/21/19 10:35:33 AM
#321:


ClunkerSlim posted...
Its because Error doesnt have an argument. The new system is objectively hot garbage. There is no defense. It was designed with one goal - to reduce the effort mods have to put into the site.


Its so dumb. Why not just recruit more mods? Im sure plenty of users here would be willing. It sucks seeing GFAQs go out like this.

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Alpha218
11/21/19 10:36:30 AM
#322:


I know this is basically just screaming into the void at this point, but how many other sites even have a dispute system???

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Goats
11/21/19 10:37:53 AM
#323:


"Listen fam, if you don't tell me where the goats went I'll make your life difficult." Error growled as he readjusted his fedora. "We'll see how weak that jaw REALLY is."
The fam member squeaked, his eyes darting two different ways. "I can't tell you anything. If I do. He'll know. He'll get me banned."

Error put out his cigarette for emphasis.

"Pally, if you don't tell me what I want to hear, I'll ban you myself. All it will take is one click."

"I-I don't know nothing. Listen do you got any muffinz?"
Suddenly the door to mod central flew open. Alpha stood in the doorway, his haphazardly done up trenchcoat flapping. "Error, leave the room. It's time we warned him up a little."
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EzeDoesIt
11/21/19 10:38:11 AM
#324:


Shablagoo posted...
*Spends certain amount of time on thing each day*

*cut off from said thing out of nowhere for the next x days, weeks, whatever*

Why would you not be a bit upset? Are you guys defining the word upset differently from the way we do, or something?


They think being upset is a negative thing because of our culture of repressing emotions and emphasizing machismo.

For me, when something disappointing happens its perfectly human to feel disappointed.

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Shablagoo
11/21/19 10:45:42 AM
#325:


Goats posted...
"Listen fam, if you don't tell me where the goats went I'll make your life difficult." Error growled as he readjusted his fedora. "We'll see how weak that jaw REALLY is."
The fam member squeaked, his eyes darting two different ways. "I can't tell you anything. If I do. He'll know. He'll get me banned."

Error put out his cigarette for emphasis.

"Pally, if you don't tell me what I want to hear, I'll ban you myself. All it will take is one click."

"I-I don't know nothing. Listen do you got any muffinz?"
Suddenly the door to mod central flew open. Alpha stood in the doorway, his haphazardly done up trenchcoat flapping. "Error, leave the room. It's time we warned him up a little."

Heard joke once: Man goes to doctor. Says he's depressed. Says life seems harsh and cruel. Says he feels all alone in a threatening GFAQs where what lies ahead is vague and uncertain. Doctor says, "Treatment is simple. Great Vegy topic in topic list tonight. Go and look at dis ready girl. That should pick you up." Man bursts into tears. Says, "But doctor...I am SBAllen.
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Coastal_elite
11/21/19 10:51:09 AM
#326:


Alpha218 posted...
I know this is basically just screaming into the void at this point, but how many other sites even have a dispute system???


How many other sites have an interface straight out of 1995?
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Alpha218
11/21/19 10:52:17 AM
#327:


That has nothing to do with what I just said.

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Coastal_elite
11/21/19 10:53:31 AM
#328:


Alpha218 posted...
That has nothing to do with what I just said.


And what other websites do has nothing to do with what others have been saying either.

If your neighbor shit his pants it doesn't mean you should piss yours
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Shablagoo
11/21/19 10:54:13 AM
#329:


Alpha218 posted...
That has nothing to do with what I just said.

A rotten piece of steak is still rotten even if no one else has steak.
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El Mexicano Texano
11/21/19 10:55:42 AM
#330:


My cousin topics get closed and I'm not sure why. It doesn't break any rules at all. I don't even get a chance to say anything against it.

Last one I made was how she remembers we used to play house. She brought up how we used to kiss and that was it.
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Goats
11/21/19 10:55:47 AM
#331:


Bad coffee is bad coffee even if everyone else has switched to covfefe is what ROD is trying to say, I think.
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smoliske
11/21/19 10:57:35 AM
#332:


Shablagoo posted...
*Spends certain amount of time on thing each day*

*cut off from said thing out of nowhere for the next x days, weeks, whatever*

Why would you not be a bit upset? Are you guys defining the word upset differently from the way we do, or something?


it's just a message board dude
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Shablagoo
11/21/19 11:03:10 AM
#333:


smoliske posted...
Shablagoo posted...
*Spends certain amount of time on thing each day*

*cut off from said thing out of nowhere for the next x days, weeks, whatever*

Why would you not be a bit upset? Are you guys defining the word upset differently from the way we do, or something?


it's just a message board dude

Yeah but like we dont spiral into a depression and become alcoholics because we got unfairly warned. It doesnt take much effort to type up criticisms on here when the people who screwed you over just aggressively deride you any time anyone expresses the tiniest complaint about the moderating here.
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Goats
11/21/19 11:04:30 AM
#334:


I know what it's like to lose. To feel so desperately that you're right, yet to fail nonetheless. It's frightening, turns the legs to jelly. I ask you to what end? Dread it. Run from it. Destiny arrives all the same. And now it's here.
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Goats
11/21/19 11:07:01 AM
#335:


You were logging off hungry, scrounging for karma. Your board was on the brink of collapse. I'm the one who stopped that. You know what's happened since then? The new accounts have known nothing but daily karma and no shitposting. It's a paradise
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Coastal_elite
11/21/19 11:07:10 AM
#336:


Shablagoo posted...
smoliske posted...
Shablagoo posted...
*Spends certain amount of time on thing each day*

*cut off from said thing out of nowhere for the next x days, weeks, whatever*

Why would you not be a bit upset? Are you guys defining the word upset differently from the way we do, or something?


it's just a message board dude

Yeah but like we dont spiral into a depression and become alcoholics because we got unfairly warned. It doesnt take much effort to type up criticisms on here when the people who screwed you over just aggressively deride you any time anyone expresses the tiniest complaint about the moderating here.


he's not being honest.

The people who mark posts and get people warned don't go like "it's just a message board dude XD", they weep, sob, scream and then mark posts. The moderator doesn't tell the marker "it's just a message board dude ^_^ " to whoever marked the post, he goes like "YOU MUST BE PUNISHED FOR THIS GRAVE INJUSTICEEEEEE" and warns/suspends the user.

Apparently "man up" and "it's just a message board XD" only applies to the people that are not friends with certain people.
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PatrickMahomes
11/21/19 11:09:14 AM
#337:


Coastal_elite posted...
Coastal_elite posted...
Error1355 posted...
Imagine being upset over a moderation for weeks.


I already addressed this twice, but you ignored it man :/


less than 20 minutes later:

Error1355 posted...
Error1355 posted...
Imagine being upset over a moderation for weeks.




This is passive-aggressive as it gets. It also makes it look like you got no argument here.

He doesn't have one. He resorts to this type of handwaving in virtually every moderation complaint topic.
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darkphoenix181
11/21/19 11:09:42 AM
#338:


Alpha218 posted...
I know this is basically just screaming into the void at this point, but how many other sites even have a dispute system???


Do you see a dispute system as a bad thing or a plus for the users?

If it is a plus and gives gfaqs an edge, maybe feedback to make it better is something that would increase said edge.

Ofc if you think it is archaic you would want to water it down until no one can dispute anymore.
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Error1355
11/21/19 11:09:44 AM
#339:


You guys have some fucking issues.

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PatrickMahomes
11/21/19 11:10:22 AM
#340:


^ Nice flame
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Coastal_elite
11/21/19 11:12:11 AM
#341:


PatrickMahomes posted...
^ Nice flame


He was so worked up when he typed that reply that he had to go back and edit it a minute later, literally
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darkphoenix181
11/21/19 11:13:08 AM
#342:


Coastal_elite posted...
He was so worked up when he typed that reply that he had to go back and edit it a minute later, literally


Oh?

I see, he removed guys implying all of us had issues and now it just aimed at patrick?

Edit: oh nm it is other way around

He say just you but now it says guys
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Alpha218
11/21/19 11:18:02 AM
#343:


darkphoenix181 posted...
Do you see a dispute system as a bad thing or a plus for the users?

If it is a plus and gives gfaqs an edge, maybe feedback to make it better is something that would increase said edge.

Ofc if you think it is archaic you would want to water it down until no one can dispute anymore.
I dont think it is a terrible thing, but the old form was worse than what we have now. You have guaranteed 24 hr turnover times, you have the whole group voting as opposed to a single moderator... I think its a plus for everyone tbh. Of course you might not see it the same as me.

Anyways I personally try to leave notes to the modded user on any moderation that isnt blatantly obvious to avoid confusion. Thats the feedback that comes in lieu of dispute responses.

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Xx09x7
11/21/19 11:19:02 AM
#344:


ClunkerSlim posted...
Coastal_elite posted...
This is passive-aggressive as it gets. It also makes it look like you got no argument here.

Its because Error doesnt have an argument. The new system is objectively hot garbage. There is no defense. It was designed with one goal - to reduce the effort mods have to put into the site.


That is clearly objectively true but...

Alpha218 posted...
I know this is basically just screaming into the void at this point, but how many other sites even have a dispute system???

This is also true. Gotta give GameFAQS that at least lol.

But at this point the mods are just modding you over a difference in opinion, and getting away with it, is the thing.
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Shablagoo
11/21/19 11:19:53 AM
#345:


Coastal_elite posted...
Shablagoo posted...
smoliske posted...
Shablagoo posted...
*Spends certain amount of time on thing each day*

*cut off from said thing out of nowhere for the next x days, weeks, whatever*

Why would you not be a bit upset? Are you guys defining the word upset differently from the way we do, or something?


it's just a message board dude

Yeah but like we dont spiral into a depression and become alcoholics because we got unfairly warned. It doesnt take much effort to type up criticisms on here when the people who screwed you over just aggressively deride you any time anyone expresses the tiniest complaint about the moderating here.


he's not being honest.

The people who mark posts and get people warned don't go like "it's just a message board dude XD", they weep, sob, scream and then mark posts. The moderator doesn't tell the marker "it's just a message board dude ^_^ " to whoever marked the post, he goes like "YOU MUST BE PUNISHED FOR THIS GRAVE INJUSTICEEEEEE" and warns/suspends the user.

Apparently "man up" and "it's just a message board XD" only applies to the people that are not friends with certain people.

All excellent points. Their flippant responses actually perfectly illustrate how out-of-their-minds upset they are. Theyve got nothing to say so they ignore our points and imply we are mentally ill. (Because of course a lead mod can use mental illness as an insult and get away with it.)
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darkphoenix181
11/21/19 11:22:45 AM
#346:


Alpha218 posted...
Anyways I personally try to leave notes to the modded user on any moderation that isnt blatantly obvious to avoid confusion. Thats the feedback that comes in lieu of dispute responses.


Thanks for that.

I think this is one of the bigger issues people have.

I have a moderation on my account atm for sexism according to a mod.
I looked at the post and there is no sexism in it.

I could have tried to dispute it but my guess is it would have failed. Why? Because I have no fucking idea why the post even got modded so kinda hard to defend it lmao.

I could say "there is nothing sexist in this post"

But from experience in the old system a mod would go "wrong there is".
And with this one there is no response at all.

So it isn't even worth attempting a dispute. System working as intended?
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Error1355
11/21/19 11:23:00 AM
#347:


http://issues.error1355.com/

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Ps2Twilight
11/21/19 11:25:51 AM
#348:


Coastal_elite posted...
he's not being honest.

The people who mark posts and get people warned don't go like "it's just a message board dude XD", they weep, sob, scream and then mark posts. The moderator doesn't tell the marker "it's just a message board dude ^_^ " to whoever marked the post, he goes like "YOU MUST BE PUNISHED FOR THIS GRAVE INJUSTICEEEEEE" and warns/suspends the user.

Apparently "man up" and "it's just a message board XD" only applies to the people that are not friends with certain people.


Repeating this made up fantasy isn't suddenly going to make it true.

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Shablagoo
11/21/19 11:27:01 AM
#349:


Error1355 posted...
http://issues.error1355.com/

A web page created by someone who is clearly not at all upset.
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Shablagoo
11/21/19 11:33:13 AM
#351:


JustMyOpinion posted...
Error1355 posted...
http://issues.error1355.com/


Your shitposting is incredibly unhelpful and just fueling the other side.

Whats this other sides BS? You, me, everyone including the mods themselves should be against flaws in the moderation system. Its like those police who arrested that guy for feeding the illegal immigrant and subsequently kept him in prison for 2 years. You shouldnt side with the justice system on that one just because youre a cop or are pro-police.
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Tmaster148
11/21/19 11:38:25 AM
#352:


Some people really need to get a life. Maybe if you guys found something of value in the real world you wouldn't care so much about getting moderated on this site.

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darkphoenix181
11/21/19 11:40:00 AM
#353:


Tmaster148 posted...
Some people really need to get a life. Maybe if you guys found something of value in the real world you wouldn't care so much about getting moderated on this site.


Then they probably not post here at all though...
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glitteringfairy
11/21/19 11:42:14 AM
#354:


Alpha218 posted...
I know this is basically just screaming into the void at this point, but how many other sites even have a dispute system???
Reddit allows you to directly chat with the whole sub mod staff if you get a temp/perm ban

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Tmaster148
11/21/19 11:43:51 AM
#355:


darkphoenix181 posted...
Then they probably not post here at all though...


What's the issue?

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