Current Events > Looks like The Rise of Skywalker is going to be an epic shit show.

(+) Yeah! (+)

Reshoots through last month with the movie premiering next month.
Multiple endings shot and the ending had to be reshot due to negative reception from the screening audiences
Very toxic working environment at Lucas Films

And if the spoilers are correct, the fan backlash will go nuclear.
---

Tell us about the toxic working environment.
---

I don't care about what other fans of Star Wars think. They aren't a reliable bunch.

Of course, if the movie turns out to be trash, what can be done?
---

Endgame went through reshoots too. Just sayin.

---

Every big movie does reshoots.

I can already smell the body odor in the theater.
---

Do we know if the leaks are legit? Everyone is treating them as such, but what if they're bs? Was the source credible?
---

Sunhawk posted...

Tell us about the toxic working environment.

The musical chairs of directors and writers. Poor leadership from up top starting with Kathleen Kennedy, Bob Iger putting out fires left and right. I have a feeling that this is going to be a Frankenstein movie that's pulled in all directions.
---

Taharqa_ posted...

Reshoots through last month with the movie premiering next month.

You couldn't name a single blockbuster that didn't do this though
---

Never to be seen again
---

I can't believe a franchise that hasn't had a wholly good entry since 1980 might be a mess again.

---

lilORANG posted...

Do we know if the leaks are legit? Everyone is treating them as such, but what if they're bs? Was the source credible?

I guess we'll find out soon enough, but if what I read is the final cut then holy shit...

Some of the guys that talked about it on YT turned out to be right when it came to Dark Fate.
---

It's gonna be bad to a lot of people. Many will enjoy it. I think Disney was trying to appease a new generation of fans and have piles of money flowing in for decades, but it's the old fans that are keeping the franchise going.
---

TLJ guaranteed it was gonna be a s***show because literally who cares about anything that happens at this point?
---

Hairistotle posted...

i wish i could get in the head of someone who's hyped for this. my diehard star wars fanboy friend literally said "fuck star wars" when i asked if he was seeing the new one. i was completely shocked. it was a little depressing too. i'd been jaded and turned off by the last jedi but it was sad to see it got him too

It got me too. As soon as the credits started rolling, I turned to my friend and said "I think I'm done with star wars".
---

TLJ broke so many casuals and die hard fans, I feel people need to step back and remember no there is still good SW its the ST that is dog shit.

People need to remember the OT, PT, and the real EU still exist and the new disney fan fiction should NOT kill your love of the good SW material out there.

Just because the new ST is garbage does not mean all SW is garbage, no fan should throw out the OT or PT because the disney fan fiction is shit.
---

I'll see what the Mandalorian brings, it could be a bright spot in these dark times. Although I'm worried it's just going to be another bad guy turns good and joins the Rebellion story.
---

IShall_Run_Amok posted...

I can't believe a franchise that hasn't had a wholly good entry since 1980 might be a mess again.

This is such a minority opinion.

what's the difference between star wars fans and star wars haters?

the fans enjoyed 2 of the movies

Hairistotle posted...

Soggy_Pocket posted...

Hairistotle posted...

i wish i could get in the head of someone who's hyped for this. my diehard star wars fanboy friend literally said "fuck star wars" when i asked if he was seeing the new one. i was completely shocked. it was a little depressing too. i'd been jaded and turned off by the last jedi but it was sad to see it got him too

It got me too. As soon as the credits started rolling, I turned to my friend and said "I think I'm done with star wars".

I just felt weird after leaving the theater. i was pretty sure i didnt like it. i didnt hate it and still dont, but over the course of that week i just...stopped giving a shit about star wars. i dont care about any of the games, shows, movies, nothing anymore. like 'poof' it's gone

You've moved to the indifference phase. It's like an ex that you don't get angry at anymore but you're just tired of his/her shit and went "enough" and they might as well be invisible now.

I guess I'm still in the anger phase.
---

I have hope that Jedi Fallen Order, and The Mandalorian could be good, but I have zero faith in TROS and honestly hope other people just ignore it as well.
---

Hairistotle posted...

RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

People need to remember the ... PT...good SW material out there

lost me

Do you like TCW tv shows ??
---

Engineer_Gamer posted...

what's the difference between star wars fans and star wars haters?

the fans enjoyed 2 of the movies

Hey that's not... Well, I think you're right, lol.

The idea of Star Wars and the universe that was created was what was so cool to me.
---

RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

TLJ broke so many casuals and die hard fans, I feel people need to step back and remember no there is still good SW its the ST that is dog shit.

People need to remember the OT, PT, and the real EU still exist and the new disney fan fiction should NOT kill your love of the good SW material out there.

Just because the new ST is garbage does not mean all SW is garbage, no fan should throw out the OT or PT because the disney fan fiction is shit.

I'm of the line with SW now as I am with Terminator. As far as I'm concerned Terminator ended with T2. Dark Fate took a rhinoceros dump on T2 and everything it built.
---

Well that TCW 2004 show is a result of the PT so if you like that you cant hate the PT as that show would never exist without the prequels, specifically episode 2.
---

At this point it might as well just swan dive off a cliff. TLJ left so many people walking out with a complete indifference to the franchise that it might actually be good for the series to just go nuts.

To quote Abrams:

It felt slightly more renegade; it felt slightly more like, you know, F*** it, Im going to do the thing that feels right because it does, not because it adheres to something.

---

RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

TLJ broke so many casuals and die hard fans, I feel people need to step back and remember no there is still good SW its the ST that is dog shit.

People need to remember the OT, PT, and the real EU still exist and the new disney fan fiction should NOT kill your love of the good SW material out there.

Just because the new ST is garbage does not mean all SW is garbage, no fan should throw out the OT or PT because the disney fan fiction is shit.

PT is literally worse than the ST in every way and it's only saving grace was RotS. TPM and TCW were complete garbage.
---

MuayThai85 posted...

PT is literally worse than the ST in every way and it's only saving grace was RotS. TPM and TCW were complete garbage.

TCW was excellent, the fuck are you on about?

---

I only support the good SW stuff now, and to me the ST is the worst garbage I have seen in a long time.

There is no one to root for in the ST at all, and they ruined the story to the point the OT heroes were not only fucking idiots but failures of the wow were you trying to fuck up as much as possible or is it just your fetish to fail at everything kinda deal.

Its really disney, kathleen, and rian that are to blamw, ironically Rogue One a OT era film is the only good movie so far from disney.
---

Star wars fans hate star wars more at 11
---

if you didnt like TFA you're a fucking dweeb tbh

that movie played it completely safe and was exactly what it needed to be

@MuayThai85

The PT was not perfect but it was fucking Shakespeare compared to the ST, it atleast had a good story to tell, plenty of memorable battles, action, and characters.

I think the only good thing in the ST was Rey being man handled by Snoke like she deserved.
---

Its going to be a mess

Idk if I believe all these test screening reports.

I'm supposed to believe TLJ got great test screenings?
---

RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

I think the only good thing in the ST was Rey being man handled by Snoke like she deserved.

haha whoa gamer moment

Engineer_Gamer posted...

if you didnt like TFA you're a fucking dweeb tbh

that movie played it completely safe and was exactly what it needed to be

I dont like it for that reason. I dont hate it either though but I have had no desire to ever watch it again.
---

Star wars never had a great plot or story

---

Engineer_Gamer posted...

RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

I think the only good thing in the ST was Rey being man handled by Snoke like she deserved.

haha whoa gamer moment

Rey has done NOTHING to earn her powers, she had no teacher of any kind yet she can use mind trick, and actual force powers not having a clue on what the force is.

Then we have her able to use a lightsaber in battle when she had no training in its use at all and no a staff does NOT function the same way a sword does.
---

I rather liked the most recent trailer.
---

Mara Jade, Bastilla Shan, Ahsoka Tano, and Jania Solo were amazing characters who actually trained and earned their status as skilled characters.

Rey is literally given zero character developement.
---

RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

Rey has done NOTHING to earn her powers, she had no teacher of any kind yet she can use mind trick, and actual force powers not having a clue on what the force is.

Then we have her able to use a lightsaber in battle when she had no training in its use at all and no a staff does NOT function the same way a sword does.

User Since: Sep 2007Karma: 2374