Current Events > Can someone tell me how the fuck Windows 10 updated on my PC with no warning?

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Looked gf
11/11/19 11:22:22 AM
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I DISABLED and had this shit lockdowned like a year ago when I built my PC, no problems with shady m$ apps running in the background... until now

Came back today to a startup screen saying Windows is updating or some crap

Ruined my fucking audio drivers and now my speakers aren't working

How the fuck

Why the fuck

fuck m$ and fuck Windows 10
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AlephZero
11/11/19 11:23:35 AM
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It is essentially impossible to disable automatic updates unless you are eternally vigilant. If you disable it it will get reenabled.
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Looked gf
11/11/19 11:26:50 AM
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AlephZero posted...
It is essentially impossible to disable automatic updates unless you are eternally vigilant. If you disable it it will get reenabled.


I had this shit disabled through services, metered connection, registry fixes, and other methods (that might not be TOS friendly)

Worked for a year and a half until now, but how??
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Shinnokxz
11/11/19 11:32:57 AM
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Looked gf posted...
I had this shit disabled through services, metered connection, registry fixes, and other methods (that might not be TOS friendly)

Worked for a year and a half until now, but how??


Windows 10 is an evolving beast. Much in the same where tech guides from 2017 and earlier mostly no longer work with current Windows, Microsoft constantly changes the updating engine
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Hexenherz
11/11/19 12:09:51 PM
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Windows has a good habit of re-enabling shit and it is annoying as hell. I had an update once that blocked my computer from going into sleep mode, which was annoying as fudge.

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Soggy_Pocket
11/11/19 12:21:33 PM
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You don't think it update like that, but it do.
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Vol2tex
11/11/19 12:23:59 PM
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Ex-Kefiroth posted...
So so so so glad I stopped my PC from updating from W7 to 10 back when they were pushing it hard.


I still have Windows 7 too.
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Damn_Underscore
11/11/19 12:24:41 PM
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I never understood the hate for Windows 10 other than people just don't like change.

I have one PC with Windows 7, and one with Windows 10, and Windows 10 is just better. The Windows 7 PC is older so that may affect things, but Windows 10 is just sleeker and nicer-looking. The only thing that makes Windows 7 better is the classic start menu, but you can download a program that will bring that to Windows 10.

Also they aren't updating Windows 7 anymore after January, so I don't know why you would want to keep Windows 7.
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Hexenherz
11/11/19 12:35:08 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
I never understood the hate for Windows 10 other than people just don't like change.

I have one PC with Windows 7, and one with Windows 10, and Windows 10 is just better. The Windows 7 PC is older so that may affect things, but Windows 10 is just sleeker and nicer-looking. The only thing that makes Windows 7 better is the classic start menu, but you can download a program that will bring that to Windows 10.

Also they aren't updating Windows 7 anymore after January, so I don't know why you would want to keep Windows 7.


That's my number one gripe about it to be honest. I hate that the whole interface is designed around tablet view. You get used to it, but it does not look good, it looks like an incomplete DeviantArt theme. I just really wish they still had fucking Windows Classic or something built in.

I think they fixed it now, but for the longest time right-click context menus on items in the taskbar, and the whole Start bar itself, would just shit the bed and populate as blank items.

Also - why do they have different Settings screens? That is just another dumb decision right there. Half the time you go through a dozen screens to change an option just to realize it's not in *that* Settings menu, it's in the *other* Settings menu.

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Polycosm
11/11/19 12:47:19 PM
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macOS does this too. I sleep restless at night fearing the day I wake up to Catalina and all my legacy 32-bit apps are broken.
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MarthGoomba
11/11/19 12:52:07 PM
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I don't understand why people don't want their PC to update

Windows 10 isn't anywhere near as obnoxious with updates as people think it is
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ThyCorndog
11/11/19 12:53:45 PM
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Soggy_Pocket posted...
You don't think it update like that, but it do.
Word?

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Hexenherz
11/11/19 12:54:20 PM
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MarthGoomba posted...
I don't understand why people don't want their PC to update

Windows 10 isn't anywhere near as obnoxious with updates as people think it is
Microsoft themselves tell you not to install the latest updates sometimes. Every major update is an irrefutable travesty at launch.

It's almost as if they have a rogue AI developing Windows 10 and pushing this shit out.

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MarthGoomba
11/11/19 12:55:27 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
Microsoft themselves tell you not to install the latest updates sometimes

They tell people to just let Windows do its thing instead of clicking CHECK FOR UPDATES hourly
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AlephZero
11/11/19 12:56:32 PM
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MarthGoomba posted...
I don't understand why people don't want their PC to update

Windows 10 isn't anywhere near as obnoxious with updates as people think it is

An update about a year ago was deleting some people's personal data, and Microsoft knew about the bug. They pushed the update anyway, a bunch of people lost personal data after it automatically installed, Microsoft made a surprised Pikachu face and pulled the update. Their QA is atrocious, I would not trust a major Windows update today. I have 10 Pro so I can put myself on the release channel that's six months behind, but I think that's going away soon.
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Hexenherz
11/11/19 12:57:24 PM
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MarthGoomba posted...
They tell people to just let Windows do its thing instead of clicking CHECK FOR UPDATES hourly
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/ microsoft-cautions-against-installing-windows-update/

https://gizmodo.com/microsoft-warns-users -not-to-install-its-latest-windows-1794692878

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MarthGoomba
11/11/19 1:00:41 PM
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Hexenherz posted...
MarthGoomba posted...
They tell people to just let Windows do its thing instead of clicking CHECK FOR UPDATES hourly
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/ microsoft-cautions-against-installing-windows-update/

https://gizmodo.com/microsoft-warns-users -not-to-install-its-latest-windows-1794692878

Thanks for posting links to show what I'm saying
Therefore, we continue to recommend (unless youre an advanced user who is prepared to work through some issues) that you wait until the Windows 10 Creators Update is automatically offered to you

So don't ever click "check for updates" and just let Windows do its thing and there will never be a problem
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DevsBro
11/11/19 1:00:52 PM
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I still have 7.

It wasn't really intentional; it just never upgraded like it was supposed to and I didn't particularly care.

Then again, it also hasn't done system updates correctly since like 2012 so that might be why.
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GiftedACIII
11/11/19 1:02:41 PM
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Mr Hangman posted...
I have Windows 10 Pro, and I disabled the automatic restart in multiple places, including group policy, and still it would restart to update, causing me to lose work. So I went nuclear on Windows, found the file that does the actual restart, corrupted it, then revoked all system permissions so that Windows could never fix it.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-prevent-windows-10-rebooting-after-installing-updates

Damn, going full John Wick on it.
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Hexenherz
11/11/19 1:06:42 PM
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MarthGoomba posted...
Thanks for posting links to show what I'm saying

So don't ever click "check for updates" and just let Windows do its thing and there will never be a problem
You have to admit, that's pretty dumb design if "checking for updates" screws the operating system up...

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Foppe
11/11/19 1:07:44 PM
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Their software, their rules.

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Foppe
11/11/19 1:15:07 PM
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And you chose to install their software.
There are other OS out there if you dont accept Microsofts rules.

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MarthGoomba
11/11/19 1:17:12 PM
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Mr Hangman posted...
I do want it to update, when I tell it to. Not when I am not ready and have a dozen programs open.

Windows doesn't update itself if you are using it
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King Rial
11/11/19 1:17:18 PM
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AlephZero posted...
I have 10 Pro so I can put myself on the release channel that's six months behind, but I think that's going away soon.

What? Noooooo!!!!!
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MarthGoomba
11/11/19 10:20:53 PM
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Mr Hangman posted...
Yeah, just never go AFK for any amount of time and you'll be just fine!

Or, set your active hours up properly
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yillin
11/11/19 11:13:37 PM
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Couple points.

1) Isn't Windows 7 losing/has lost support?

2) can't you use 'God Mode' to forever turn off windows updates.
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Fossil
11/11/19 11:37:51 PM
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MarthGoomba posted...
I don't understand why people don't want their PC to update
Why fix what's not broken?

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GarbageApe
11/11/19 11:47:41 PM
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i still have windows 7 and i will never upgrade to 10 unless they stop making you pay to play solitaire
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VIIVincent
11/11/19 11:51:01 PM
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I had w7. Came back one day and my bro said it updated itself. Fucken hell. This is my surfing pc from 09 mind you.

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008Zulu
11/11/19 11:59:28 PM
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Microsoft doesn't trust you with your computer.
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Irony
11/12/19 12:00:52 AM
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Windows 10 is the worst version of Windows after Vista
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Axiom
11/12/19 12:05:34 AM
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Looked gf posted...
Ruined my fucking audio drivers and now my speakers aren't working

Which motherfucker at MS keeps sabotaging the audio drivers. This is so common that it should have been fixed and yet it keeps happening. The only explanation is it's being done on purpose
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Looked gf
11/12/19 6:40:38 AM
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Axiom posted...
Looked gf posted...
Ruined my fucking audio drivers and now my speakers aren't working

Which motherfucker at MS keeps sabotaging the audio drivers. This is so common that it should have been fixed and yet it keeps happening. The only explanation is it's being done on purpose

Lmao right?? Stupid *****

MarthGoomba posted...
I don't understand why people don't want their PC to update


I'll update the day m$ decides to stop uninstalling random shit on my PC and destroying its own OS
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