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Joeydollaz
11/10/19 7:39:32 PM
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Funny since MGS4 was a gun nuts game...IF you wanted it to be
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boxington
11/10/19 7:41:09 PM
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that's pretty much the case with all of the MGS titles, but MGS3 & MGS4 makes a statement against it, iirc.

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Joeydollaz
11/10/19 7:43:10 PM
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boxington posted...
that's pretty much the case with all of the MGS titles, but MGS3 & MGS4 makes a statement against it, iirc.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngLDryrqvnM
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008Zulu
11/10/19 7:46:33 PM
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boxington posted...
that's pretty much the case with all of the MGS titles, but MGS3 & MGS4 makes a statement against it, iirc.

Kojima: Life is precious!
Games Kojima makes: Pew pew pew! Explosions!
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EzeDoesIt
11/10/19 7:49:30 PM
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Shooter freaks like they like shooting video games or like they are real-life gun fanatics?

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Darmik
11/10/19 9:16:30 PM
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EzeDoesIt posted...
Shooter freaks like they like shooting video games or like they are real-life gun fanatics?


I must say that the game received rave reviews, especially in Europe and Japan. Here in the United States, however, we have had stronger criticisms. Perhaps it is a difficult game to understand for a certain type of critic and audience. Americans are great fans of first-person shooters and Death Stranding isn't one, it flies higher.

I always try to create new things and disputes and discussions are fine, but it must be said that the Italians or the French have a different artistic sensibility that allows them to appreciate this kind of very original product, not only in video games but also in cinema.


https://wccftech.com/kojima-death-stranding-had-stronger-criticism-in-the-us-possibly-because-it-flies-above-shooters/
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Wedge Antilles
11/10/19 9:27:06 PM
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Because they are.
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Nacen
11/10/19 9:28:37 PM
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I mean, yeah.
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St0rmFury
11/10/19 9:29:44 PM
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He's right, ya know.
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awesome999
11/10/19 9:30:53 PM
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https://www.statista.com/statistics/ 189592/breakdown- of-us-video-game-sales-2009-by-genre/

Action and shooter genre games at the top

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masterpug53
11/10/19 9:50:11 PM
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Accurate. I get freaky when I think about Shooter McGavin.
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evil_zombie11
11/10/19 9:51:51 PM
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Americans, us, we do have shorter attention spans and want the pew pew yes. Too bad Kojima.
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Zack_Attackv1
11/10/19 9:57:08 PM
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I'm beginning to see why Konami let his insufferable ass go.
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Abiz_
11/10/19 11:33:54 PM
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It might just be because people hate fetch quests and he literally made a game based around them.
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Rika_Furude
11/10/19 11:37:06 PM
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Abiz_ posted...
It might just be because people hate fetch quests and he literally made a game based around them.

people said similar things about mgs2 and mgs3

"not enough action!!!"
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Jiek_Fafn
11/10/19 11:40:22 PM
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After getting into it more I really like the game and I like all of the crazy shit Kojima throws in there, but let's not pretend it's for everyone. Dont be an asshole Kojima.
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boxington
11/10/19 11:41:07 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
people said similar things about mgs2 and mgs3

"not enough action!!!"


did anyone say that, because you can have as much action in those games as you want

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Rika_Furude
11/10/19 11:42:05 PM
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boxington posted...
did anyone say that, because you can have as much action in those games as you want

pretty much all the cookie cutter kojima haters did
thats why i dont take the kojima haters seriously now for this game
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Lost_All_Senses
11/10/19 11:43:01 PM
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Tbf in his games, guns are mostly just an option. It's your choice if you want to actually make it a heavy gun game.
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Abiz_
11/10/19 11:46:26 PM
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Rika_Furude posted...
people said similar things about mgs2 and mgs3

"not enough action!!!"
Wut? I didn't say anything about not enough action. Also mgs2 and mgs3 aren't a fetch quest games. Never heard anyone have that complaint about mgs2 or mgs3.
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Rika_Furude
11/10/19 11:47:45 PM
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Abiz_ posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
people said similar things about mgs2 and mgs3

"not enough action!!!"
Wut? I didn't say anything about not enough action. Also mgs2 and mgs3 aren't a fetch quest games. Never heard anyone have that complaint about mgs2 or mgs3.

I'm saying people hated on kojima for non-reasons even for his best games.
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Darmik
11/10/19 11:52:57 PM
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I think the 'not enough action' thing was more directed to Splinter Cell games.

MGS2 was controversial due to the marketing bait and switch.
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EzeDoesIt
11/11/19 10:22:20 AM
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Darmik posted...
https://wccftech.com/kojima-death-stranding-had-stronger-criticism-in-the-us-possibly-because-it-flies-above-shooters/
Ah, cheers.

boxington posted...
did anyone say that, because you can have as much action in those games as you want
I remember just replaying certain levels/areas in MGS3 over and over just roleplaying with different costumes and thinking up different ways to subdue the enemies. It did have plenty of action if you wanted it to, youre right.

Not to mention being able to travel to a hellscape and slice up demons with a samurai sword or whatever lol

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LightHawKnight
11/11/19 10:27:23 AM
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I mean it is true isn't it?
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21WIVES_CHILL
11/11/19 10:51:11 AM
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I remember in the old modern warfare games it would show you a globe of active players online and most of west and east coast were lit.
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Garioshi
11/11/19 10:55:26 AM
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008Zulu posted...
Kojima: Life is precious!
Games Kojima makes: Pew pew pew! Explosions!
MGS3 makes you directly face every person you killed with the way you killed them still visible on them. You didn't have to kill any of them, and yet you did. Having the option to commit violent acts does not mean the game endorses violent acts.

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Ving_Rhames
11/11/19 10:56:25 AM
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I dont think theres much evidence to the contrary
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darkphoenix181
11/11/19 11:01:35 AM
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Brb, buying next COD
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Hexenherz
11/11/19 11:05:55 AM
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Garioshi posted...
MGS3 makes you directly face every person you killed with the way you killed them still visible on them. You didn't have to kill any of them, and yet you did. Having the option to commit violent acts does not mean the game endorses violent acts.


In my case, I did have to kill them because I was bad at the game.

I really loved that section though.

I mean, the whole Metal Gear series revolves around the role of soldiers and patriotism in warfare and the necessity, evils, and everything in between when it comes to the morality of warfare. It's funny that someone would just see guns and think "omg he made a shooter what a hypocrite".

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sylverlolol
11/11/19 11:07:46 AM
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St0rmFury posted...
He's right, ya know.

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Lost_All_Senses
11/11/19 11:08:59 AM
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sylverlolol posted...
St0rmFury posted...
He's right, ya know.


This doesn't matter in 2019. What matters is, if it hit a nerve with someone or not. Apparently it has.
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