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WastelandCowboy 11/06/19 12:32:19 AM #1: |
https://www.npr.org/2019/11/05/776572408/virginia-democrats-flip-control-of-state-senate
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WastelandCowboy 11/06/19 12:32:29 AM #2: |
Overall, Beshear campaigned that he would restore "respect" and "Kentucky values" to the governor's office along with protecting Medicaid expansion and education funding, making the race a referendum on state and local issues, instead of the nationalized vote Bevin wanted. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 11/06/19 1:14:38 AM #3: |
The Virginia win is huge. It prevent republicans from being able to gerrymander the state with the census results. So don't underrate how big this victory is for the next decade.
The Kentucky win is basically meaningless for democrats nationally. Republicans won 5/6 races in Kentucky comfortably. Seems the governor who lost just really sucked, and he lost by a very thin margin. I don't think this is a sign that evil turtle is going to struggle next year. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 11/06/19 1:34:22 AM #4: |
WastelandCowboy posted...
If Beshear's margin holds, it's a blow to President Trump, who rallied in the state for Bevin on the eve of the election. I loved the SNL skits on that line of thinking. WastelandCowboy posted... Bevin had made plenty of enemies while doing little to make friends. His approval ratings put him as one of the most unpopular governors in the country, and he only narrowly won his primary over a little-known opponent. He picked fights with and offended Kentucky teachers over pension reform, resulting in a major backlash, and also didn't build great relationships with even GOP state legislators. Meanwhile when Dan Malloy was one of the least popular governors, he still won re-election in CT. >_> WastelandCowboy posted... Democrats were able to pull off the victory, despite scandals among the three top statewide officials in their party. Gov. Ralph Northam and Attorney General Mark Herring both admitted earlier this year to wearing blackface when they were younger, and two women have accused Lt. Gov. Justin Fairfax of sexual assault, which he denies. The SNL skit about Democrats' problem with blackface was possibly one of my favorites this year. BlackScythe0 posted... The Virginia win is huge. It prevent republicans from being able to gerrymander the state with the census results. So don't underrate how big this victory is for the next decade. ...by which you mean it allows Democrats to gerrymander the state instead. XD BlackScythe0 posted... I don't think this is a sign that evil turtle is going to struggle next year. Of course not, because the man brings home the bacon. https://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/mitch-mcconnell-earmark-spending-104503_Page2.html --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 11/06/19 2:04:34 AM #5: |
Zeus posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...The Virginia win is huge. It prevent republicans from being able to gerrymander the state with the census results. So don't underrate how big this victory is for the next decade. Yep, as I understand it despite every lower court ruling against gerrymandering the supreme court has repeatedly overturned them to protect republican gerrymandering. If we are in a position where it's either be gerrymandered against or be gerrymandered for I'll take being on the winning side. I'll still think it's wrong, but if us winning can help get a court primarily concerned with the constitution who might be able actually do something about I'll take it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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usranger13 11/06/19 2:20:14 AM #6: |
BlackScythe0 posted...
court primarily concerned with the constitution https://media.giphy.com/media/l2QDTqHp9W7WIJXlC/giphy.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 11/06/19 2:22:05 AM #7: |
BlackScythe0 posted...
The Virginia win is huge. It prevent republicans from being able to gerrymander the state with the census results. So don't underrate how big this victory is for the next decade. Damn it Him and Ted Cruz are fucking vile, way worse than Trump Really depressing knowing we'll never get rid of them :( ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 11/06/19 2:23:53 AM #8: |
streamofthesky posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...The Virginia win is huge. It prevent republicans from being able to gerrymander the state with the census results. So don't underrate how big this victory is for the next decade. Meh I keep seeing the news point to polls showing how unpopular he is, but they ignore that there is a big difference between a state election and a federal election. A democratic governor is going to operate under rather different politics than a democratic senator. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 11/06/19 2:27:33 AM #9: |
BlackScythe0 posted...
streamofthesky posted...BlackScythe0 posted...The Virginia win is huge. It prevent republicans from being able to gerrymander the state with the census results. So don't underrate how big this victory is for the next decade. Governor and senator are both state-wide votes, not sure why one is so different from the other... Of course, who's running matters, but Mitch is worse than dog shit, so if a decent Dem can beat an awful Repub for governor, not sure why the same can't happen for senator. Or does Kentucky just intentionally send us their worst as a giant middle finger to the rest of the country? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 11/06/19 2:29:59 AM #10: |
streamofthesky posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...streamofthesky posted...BlackScythe0 posted...The Virginia win is huge. It prevent republicans from being able to gerrymander the state with the census results. So don't underrate how big this victory is for the next decade. I'm not talking about how they run. I'm talking about how they work while in office. A governor is just in the state. While the senator has to go work with the "coastal elites" that they HATE. I can't understand how much people around here hate "coastal elites". ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 11/06/19 2:36:50 AM #11: |
BlackScythe0 posted...
streamofthesky posted...BlackScythe0 posted...streamofthesky posted...BlackScythe0 posted...The Virginia win is huge. It prevent republicans from being able to gerrymander the state with the census results. So don't underrate how big this victory is for the next decade. Or how they think NC, SC, GA, FL, AL, etc... aren't on "the coast" because it'd ruin their narrative But yeah, sounds like what I was asking then. Intentionally sending a fuck wad to the Senate as an F-U to the rest of the country. And yet it's the liberals who are mean to them, according to them. For example, I don't recall democrats ever passing a tax bill that was explicitly written to fuck over red states, like the Republicans did w/ the 2017 tax law, outright saying they were targeting the state and local taxes deduction b/c it would mainly "hurt blue states." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 11/06/19 2:42:26 AM #12: |
Good
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zebatov 11/06/19 4:10:34 AM #13: |
Are there more than just two parties to vote for down there?
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HornedLion 11/06/19 9:03:26 AM #14: |
BlackScythe0 posted...
The Virginia win is huge. It prevent republicans from being able to gerrymander the state with the census results. So don't underrate how big this victory is for the next decade. Kentucky has failed us then. Only hope now is for the Dems to take back the senate. And though not impossible... its going to take a huge turn out. Nevertheless, the dems win in Kentucky only means one thing... GOP will be searching for a way to purge more voters. --- Don't runaway from troubles... instead meet them Hedons. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Yellow 11/06/19 9:26:52 AM #15: |
zebatov posted...
Are there more than just two parties to vote for down there?In the US? Rarely. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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papercup 11/06/19 11:23:01 AM #16: |
And Bevin is refusing to concede. What a fucking snowflake.
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BeerOnTap 11/06/19 2:06:29 PM #17: |
So now our blackface wearing governor and his rapist lieutenant governor can attempt to run roughshod over our constitutional freedoms. They can push forward legislation to attempt to remove an inalienable right. They can push forth legislation to allow a baby who survived an abortion to die on the table (and before anyone says otherwise, yes, that is exactly what governor Ralph Blackface Northam was implying). They can tax and spend their way into making a once great state into a crap hole.
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Mead 11/06/19 2:33:08 PM #18: |
BeerOnTap posted...
So now our blackface wearing governor and his rapist lieutenant governor can attempt to run roughshod over our constitutional freedoms. They can push forward legislation to attempt to remove an inalienable right. They can push forth legislation to allow a baby who survived an abortion to die on the table (and before anyone says otherwise, yes, that is exactly what governor Ralph Blackface Northam was implying). They can tax and spend their way into making a once great state into a crap hole. I cant imagine how pissed off youre gonna be a year from now lol --- More malicious than mischievous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BeerOnTap 11/06/19 2:38:42 PM #19: |
Mead posted...
BeerOnTap posted...So now our blackface wearing governor and his rapist lieutenant governor can attempt to run roughshod over our constitutional freedoms. They can push forward legislation to attempt to remove an inalienable right. They can push forth legislation to allow a baby who survived an abortion to die on the table (and before anyone says otherwise, yes, that is exactly what governor Ralph Blackface Northam was implying). They can tax and spend their way into making a once great state into a crap hole. Well see what happens. This VA election is not at all a surprise. Its been trending this way long before Trump. I think that if youre not disgusted by the notion that an objectively fully formed baby can be aborted moments before birth (as Kathy Tran and Governor Blackface proposed) theres something wrong with you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OrangeDawn 11/06/19 2:53:37 PM #20: |
Good for Virginia. The people in Virginia haven't elected a republican in a state-wide contest in 10 years. Glad to see their state wide legislatures reflect that instead of gerrymandering giving it over to the republicans.
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Raddest_Chad 11/06/19 3:00:50 PM #21: |
The Kentucky recount will mysteriously result in the GOP guy having more votes than the state has voters.
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OrangeDawn 11/06/19 3:01:22 PM #22: |
BeerOnTap posted...
Mead posted...BeerOnTap posted...So now our blackface wearing governor and his rapist lieutenant governor can attempt to run roughshod over our constitutional freedoms. They can push forward legislation to attempt to remove an inalienable right. They can push forth legislation to allow a baby who survived an abortion to die on the table (and before anyone says otherwise, yes, that is exactly what governor Ralph Blackface Northam was implying). They can tax and spend their way into making a once great state into a crap hole. No reason to be that disgusted by it when like 99% of abortions happen before the 21st week anyway and the majority of the 1% that don't are for medical emergencies. --- 3DS Friend Code: 3308-5843-0863 Town: Virginia ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 11/08/19 11:25:55 PM #24: |
streamofthesky posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...The Virginia win is huge. It prevent republicans from being able to gerrymander the state with the census results. So don't underrate how big this victory is for the next decade. Ted Cruz I can kinda understand, but why are you specifically against Mitch McConnel other than being a prominent Republican? --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 11/09/19 4:59:13 AM #25: |
Zeus posted...
Ted Cruz I can kinda understand, but why are you specifically against Mitch McConnel other than being a prominent Republican? Ah, I see you're back to nonsense when it comes to politics. McConnel has devastated our political landscape with his divisive leadership. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TyVulpine 11/09/19 5:33:10 AM #26: |
streamofthesky posted...
BlackScythe0 posted...The Virginia win is huge. It prevent republicans from being able to gerrymander the state with the census results. So don't underrate how big this victory is for the next decade. Democrats only need a +4 gain to get majority and then McTurtle wont be able to block Bills anymore. --- Fall down, go boom... Life is like a box of chocolates. Most of it is crap. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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