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darkphoenix181
10/29/19 11:57:04 AM
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https://www.foxnews.com/media/covington-catholic-attorney-nicholas-sandmann-washington-post-lawsuit.amp

Nicholas Sandman
will not be able to repair his reputation without proceeding with his lawsuits against The Washington Post and other media outlets, attorney Todd McMurtry said on Tuesday.
On Monday, a federal judge reversed his own ruling by partially reopening the Covington Catholic High School student's $250 million defamation lawsuit over the media's coverage of his confrontation with a Native American protester in Washington, D.C. earlier this year.
The new ruling, by District Judge William O. Bertelsman, is based on an amended complaint filed by Sandmann's legal team. The decision permitted Sandmann to obtain documents from The Post during an upcoming discovery process, as his lawyers have sought to argue that the paper negligently reported on Sandmann's interactions with a Native American man, Nathan Phillips, while the student wore a red "Make America Great Again" hat and stood outside the Lincoln Memorial in January.

Appearing on "Fox & Friends" with host Ainsley Earhardt, McMurtry said that when the case was initially dismissed by Bertelsman, they had not provided all of the evidence that showed what "Phillips had done on the mall that day."

McMurtry said they believe the video evidence shows that "Nathan Phillips presented a false factual narrative when he described what happened" and the judge was "persuaded by the additional video evidence."

The judge ruled that an amended complaint submitted by Sandmann's attorneys "alleged in greater detail than the original complaint that Phillips deliberately lied concerning the events at issue, and that Phillips had "an unsavory reputation which, but for the defendants negligence or malice, would have alerted defendant to this fact."

The initial kind of unedited, unsourced viral video that The Post linked to its articles just showed a snippet of what happened," said McMurtry.
He told Earhardt he believes that the new evidence shows that Phillips confronted Sandmann and in a statement to The Washington Times, McMurty said the ruling "preserves the heart of Nicholas Sandmanns claims."
"What we're going to do is we're going to present our case very aggressively against all of the defendants whom we have sued. And, the idea [is] to help Nicholas repair his reputation," McMurtry said.

"When you have the full weight of The Washington Post and other news sources all out against a young man like that, what's the value of undoing all of that?" he asked Earhardt.
McMurtry said that 17-year-old Sandmann is doing well, but he is "not able without the benefits of these lawsuits to undo the damage to his reputation."


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Bio1590
10/29/19 11:59:33 AM
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That kid decided to go full MAGA at 16/17, he damaged his own reputation.
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Caution998
10/29/19 11:59:56 AM
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I hope this kid gets paid for the injustice he faced by the media; specifically, the Washington Post.

Libel and slander.

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Machete
10/29/19 1:31:03 PM
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That kid is trash and I hope his life is ruined.
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Zikten
10/29/19 1:33:02 PM
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Machete posted...
That kid is trash and I hope his life is ruined.

based on what I have heard about the native american, the man is trash. he has a history of doing some fucked up stuff. one time he tried to incite a mob to break into a catholic church and threaten the people inside. they were able to barricade the doors before anyone got in

the native american was an adult and the kid I think acted more mature than he did
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Awesome
10/29/19 1:33:55 PM
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good
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EndOfDiscOne
10/29/19 1:34:24 PM
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Zikten posted...
Machete posted...
That kid is trash and I hope his life is ruined.

based on what I have heard about the native american, the man is trash. he has a history of doing some fucked up stuff. one time he tried to incite a mob to break into a catholic church and threaten the people inside. they were able to barricade the doors before anyone got in

the native american was an adult and the kid I think acted more mature than he did

He wore the hat tho. He deserves everything that's come his way.
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Tmaster148
10/29/19 1:34:32 PM
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Bio1590 posted...
That kid decided to go full MAGA at 16/17, he damaged his own reputation.


Pretty much
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Zikten
10/29/19 1:35:26 PM
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he's a kid. probably was taught by his parents that Trump is the good guy. it's not his fault. I don't like when adults yell at kids for being pawns of their parents.
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OctilIery
10/29/19 1:36:45 PM
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Caution998 posted...
I hope this kid gets paid for the injustice he faced by the media; specifically, the Washington Post.

Libel and slander.

He won't get anything because he doesn't deserve anything.
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EndOfDiscOne
10/29/19 1:37:42 PM
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People don't really change tho. I know my political opinions are the same as they were when I was 16.
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Smashingpmkns
10/29/19 1:39:41 PM
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This kid could learn how to not be such a fucking wuss from Greta Thunberg.
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CyricZ
10/29/19 1:41:50 PM
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Still, we should probably let Sandmann out of prison now.
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HypnoCoosh
10/29/19 1:47:05 PM
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So what exactly did the MAGA-Hat kid do besides wear a MAGA hat?
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OnWingsOfMisery
10/29/19 1:52:16 PM
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> kids can't make decisions regarding student loans because they're too young

> kid wearing a hat is old enough to anticipate the tarnished reputation due to the media giants straight up lying about him

Yeah ok
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Hop103
10/29/19 1:52:30 PM
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HypnoCoosh posted...
So what exactly did the MAGA-Hat kid do besides wear a MAGA hat?


Nothing.
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deupd_u
10/29/19 1:53:42 PM
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HypnoCoosh posted...
So what exactly did the MAGA-Hat kid do besides wear a MAGA hat?

He was also white
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darkphoenix181
10/29/19 1:54:15 PM
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Hop103 posted...
Nothing.


He had a big smile on his face.
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HypnoCoosh
10/29/19 1:55:10 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
People don't really change tho. I know my political opinions are the same as they were when I was 16.


That's interesting.

I've been from one end of the political spectrum to the other as I've grown and my life experience and opinions have matured.
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thronedfire2
10/29/19 1:55:32 PM
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Caution998 posted...
I hope this kid gets paid for the injustice he faced by the media; specifically, the Washington Post.

Libel and slander.


Should the president face the same justice for all the people hes slandered?
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XplodnPnguins92
10/29/19 1:59:11 PM
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the washington post, connoisseur of libel and bearer of fake news, dead at 142.

#wapodeathnotices
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CyricZ
10/29/19 2:06:10 PM
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HypnoCoosh posted...
I've been from one end of the political spectrum to the other as I've grown and my life experience and opinions have matured.

*snerk* :3
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Webmaster4531
10/29/19 2:06:37 PM
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HypnoCoosh posted...
So what exactly did the MAGA-Hat kid do besides wear a MAGA hat?

Being pro-concentration camp isn't bad enough?
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HypnoCoosh
10/29/19 2:07:11 PM
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CyricZ posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
I've been from one end of the political spectrum to the other as I've grown and my life experience and opinions have matured.

*snerk* :3


Have you not considered different thoughts, ideas and perspectives as you've grown?

If not that says a lot about you as a person.
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EndOfDiscOne
10/29/19 2:07:21 PM
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HypnoCoosh posted...
So what exactly did the MAGA-Hat kid do besides wear a MAGA hat?

Are you saying its ok to wear the hat?
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CyricZ
10/29/19 2:08:57 PM
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HypnoCoosh posted...
CyricZ posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
I've been from one end of the political spectrum to the other as I've grown and my life experience and opinions have matured.

*snerk* :3


Have you not considered different thoughts, ideas and perspectives as you've grown?

If not that says a lot about you as a person.

Seriously, how bad must you have been at a younger age that what we get now is what you'd consider "mature"?
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Tmaster148
10/29/19 2:09:09 PM
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HypnoCoosh posted...
CyricZ posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
I've been from one end of the political spectrum to the other as I've grown and my life experience and opinions have matured.

*snerk* :3


Have you not considered different thoughts, ideas and perspectives as you've grown?

If not that says a lot about you as a person.


Ironic.
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HypnoCoosh
10/29/19 2:09:40 PM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
So what exactly did the MAGA-Hat kid do besides wear a MAGA hat?

Are you saying its ok to wear the hat?


I think wearing the hat is a 1st amendment freedom and attacking\slandering the young boy for wearing the hat is dreadfully ignorant and downright deplorable.
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HypnoCoosh
10/29/19 2:11:35 PM
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CyricZ posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
CyricZ posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
I've been from one end of the political spectrum to the other as I've grown and my life experience and opinions have matured.

*snerk* :3


Have you not considered different thoughts, ideas and perspectives as you've grown?

If not that says a lot about you as a person.

Seriously, how bad must you have been at a younger age that what we get now is what you'd consider "mature"?


Well that's your opinion.

Sorry you couldn't have discussion in regards to your evolution of political, economical, and societal perspectives as you've aged.
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CyricZ
10/29/19 2:11:41 PM
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HypnoCoosh posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
So what exactly did the MAGA-Hat kid do besides wear a MAGA hat?

Are you saying its ok to wear the hat?


I think wearing the hat is a 1st amendment freedom and attacking\slandering the young boy for wearing the hat is dreadfully ignorant and downright deplorable.

So you're saying the crimes that Sandmann was charged with was an injustice?
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Machete
10/29/19 2:18:11 PM
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HypnoCoosh posted...
EndOfDiscOne posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
So what exactly did the MAGA-Hat kid do besides wear a MAGA hat?

Are you saying it?s ok to wear the hat?


attacking\slandering the young boy for wearing the hat is dreadfully ignorant and downright deplorable.


But the stuff you said and laughed about in caution's first discord isn't, right?
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ThanksUglyGod
10/29/19 2:21:45 PM
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HypnoCoosh posted...
So what exactly did the MAGA-Hat kid do besides wear a MAGA hat?

Went to protest a women's right to choose
Thought the "mature thing to do" was get up in a man's face and just smirk
Attends an all boys school already known for racism and misogyny in a red state (okay, this isn't his fault, but it doesn't make him look any less of an asshole)
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Zikten
10/29/19 2:23:18 PM
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ThanksUglyGod posted...
Thought the "mature thing to do" was get up in a man's face and just smirk

reports say the man was the one getting in his face, not the other way around. and the kid claims he was doing an awkward smile cause he didn't know what to do. as someone with aspergers I know what it's like to have my face misread. or to try to smile and it looks weird. kid says he was nervous the whole time and confused
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darkphoenix181
10/29/19 2:23:35 PM
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ThanksUglyGod posted...
Thought the "mature thing to do" was get up in a man's face and just smirk


?

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ThanksUglyGod
10/29/19 2:26:42 PM
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Zikten posted...
ThanksUglyGod posted...
Thought the "mature thing to do" was get up in a man's face and just smirk

reports say the man was the one getting in his face, not the other way around. and the kid claims he was doing an awkward smile cause he didn't know what to do. as someone with aspergers I know what it's like to have my face misread. or to try to smile and it looks weird. kid says he was nervous the whole time and confused

The video I saw showed the man just walking around but not moving if someone was in his direct path either
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Zikten
10/29/19 2:28:04 PM
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the video I saw had the native american get up in the kid's face to intimidate him, and bang on a drum and chant in his face. and the kid was scared by the aggression. his "smirk" was one of nervousness but the nation misread it as being smug
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darkphoenix181
10/29/19 2:28:25 PM
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ThanksUglyGod posted...
The video I saw showed the man just walking around but not moving if someone was in his direct path either


The kids were standing in the same place for an hour before the man decided he needed to run up to them.

Videos also showed the kids didn't obstruct any path.
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Zikten
10/29/19 2:29:18 PM
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Like i said, I looked up the guy once, and the native american apparently is locally famous in that area (was it DC?) for being an agitator
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ThanksUglyGod
10/29/19 2:30:49 PM
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Zikten posted...
the video I saw had the native american get up in the kid's face to intimidate him, and bang on a drum and chant in his face. and the kid was scared by the aggression. his "smirk" was one of nervousness but the nation misread it as being smug

Don't see how that's in any way intimidating, considering he had like 50 classmates behind him.
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darkphoenix181
10/29/19 2:31:36 PM
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ThanksUglyGod posted...
Don't see how that's in any way intimidating, considering he had like 50 classmates behind him.


And yet smirking is?
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CyricZ
10/29/19 2:32:03 PM
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That is correct. Nathan Phillips fed the news incorrect information, which was then retracted.

The question here is if Sandmann is owed compensation for this.
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ThanksUglyGod
10/29/19 2:33:00 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
ThanksUglyGod posted...
Don't see how that's in any way intimidating, considering he had like 50 classmates behind him.


And yet smirking is?

No, but it comes off as dickish
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darkphoenix181
10/29/19 2:33:29 PM
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CyricZ posted...
The question here is if Sandmann is owed compensation for this.


Well people like thanksuglygod continue to spread the false information about him that the news reported.

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Zikten
10/29/19 2:34:16 PM
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ThanksUglyGod posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
ThanksUglyGod posted...
Don't see how that's in any way intimidating, considering he had like 50 classmates behind him.


And yet smirking is?

No, but it comes off as dickish

but what if it wasn't meant as a smirk? people misread smiles all the time. often someone can be nervous but people think it's something else
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darkphoenix181
10/29/19 2:35:24 PM
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ThanksUglyGod posted...
No, but it comes off as dickish


What does beating a drum and chanting in someone's face come off as?
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ThanksUglyGod
10/29/19 2:37:48 PM
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Zikten posted...
ThanksUglyGod posted...
darkphoenix181 posted...
ThanksUglyGod posted...
Don't see how that's in any way intimidating, considering he had like 50 classmates behind him.


And yet smirking is?

No, but it comes off as dickish

but what if it wasn't meant as a smirk? people misread smiles all the time. often someone can be nervous but people think it's something else

I feel like if he really were nervous, he'd be retreating to the background and not trying to bring attention to himself.
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darkphoenix181
10/29/19 2:40:41 PM
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ThanksUglyGod posted...
I feel like if he really were nervous, he'd be retreating to the background and not trying to bring attention to himself.


Huh.
You know, Nathan Phillips falsely told the news he got nervous around the kids...yet he propelled himself into the limelight.
By your logic, would that have been a lie?

https://rewire.news/article/2019/01/20/an-interview-with-nathan-phillips-on-the-magayouth-incident/
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