Current Events > Are you a bad parent if you beat your child?

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What, like at Street Fighter or something?

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I didnt get beat by bad parents
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ChrisTaka posted...

Ive said this before but whenever I see people post stuff like this on Facebook its always from the worst kids I went to school with lol
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Beat yes, of course.
Pop or spank no.
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Do you hit a dog that misbehaves?
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DevsBro posted...

Beat yes, of course.
Pop or spank no.

I didnt ask about "pop" or anything other than beating.

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BobanMarjanovic posted...

Do you hit a dog that misbehaves?

interesting analogy

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Are you a bad driver if you have an at fault accident literally every time youre behind the wheel?
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yes leading in an absolute landlisde

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God_Of_Entirety posted...

DevsBro posted...

Beat yes, of course.
Pop or spank no.

I didnt ask about "pop" or anything other than beating.

A lot of people don't seem to realize there's a difference, so I wanted to specify.
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I dont think spanking makes you a bad parent, but you still shouldnt do it.
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CanuckCowboy posted...

Are you a bad driver if you have an at fault accident literally every time youre behind the wheel?

Yeah but at least those cars know not to talk back to you next time
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EzeDoesIt posted...

CanuckCowboy posted...

Are you a bad driver if you have an at fault accident literally every time youre behind the wheel?

Yeah but at least those cars know not to talk back to you next time

lol
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If you beat your child? Yes. But there's a difference between disincentivising bad behavior and taking your rage out on an innocent person who doesn't know any better.

Two of my friends have a 2 year old son. Recently we went out to eat, and when we asked him if he was gonna eat his dinner, he started yelling "No! I want cake!" He got out of his seat and started crying about wanting cake, going over to his mum and like yanking her arm and screaming because he wanted cake.

When he hurts someone in one of his tantrums, his parents will give him a smack on the arm or the bum. They talk strictly, but this kid doesn't care - words don't mean anything, he wants that fucking cake. So he will make a scene and scream and yell if he doesn't get what he wants, unless that behavior is disincentivised with a smack. Not a flog, not a belt, but a surface-level smack.

If you can raise a rowdy child through calm, meaningful discussion that they're only just starting to understand on a surface level, with no physical action or restraint, then by all means claim your place as parent of the year. But when you've got a kid who doesn't know any better and who is acting like a psycho because he isn't getting what he wants, you might need to fall back on harsher disciplinary measures.

A parent who beats their child is a bad parent, but there's an acceptable threshold of contact that constitutes discipline. Nothing personal, nothing with intent to injure, a warning shot across the bow of their ship to guide them away from bad behavior.
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All I asked about was beating. Whata up with all the qualifiers to support your stance... It's yes or no
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Yep
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I think it's fine to spank your kid as a last resort. The word "beat" kind of implies you've gone beyond a simple spanking
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God_Of_Entirety posted...

All I asked about was beating. Whata up with all the qualifiers to support your stance... It's yes or no

Fair enough. My answer is:

A parent who beats their child is a bad parent, but there's an acceptable threshold of contact that constitutes discipline. Nothing personal, nothing with intent to injure, a warning shot across the bow of their ship to guide them away from bad behavior.

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Yes, unless you're dislocating their jaw for playing fortnight. No child of mine will play that filth.
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Solid Snake07 posted...

I think it's fine to spank your kid as a last resort. The word "beat" kind of implies you've gone beyond a simple spanking

Another no for the poll
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MrMallard posted...

God_Of_Entirety posted...

All I asked about was beating. Whata up with all the qualifiers to support your stance... It's yes or no

Fair enough. My answer is:

A parent who beats their child is a bad parent, but there's an acceptable threshold of contact that constitutes discipline. Nothing personal, nothing with intent to injure, a warning shot across the bow of their ship to guide them away from bad behavior.

And another
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God_Of_Entirety posted...

Solid Snake07 posted...

I think it's fine to spank your kid as a last resort. The word "beat" kind of implies you've gone beyond a simple spanking

Another no for the poll

Alright then, if you say so.

If you dont teach your kids not to act like entitled assholes someone else will beat them for you at some point or another. Hopefully they'll show some restraint.....
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Solid Snake07 posted...

If you dont teach your kids not to act like entitled assholes someone else will beat them for you at some point or another.

what a narrow life you must live.

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God_Of_Entirety posted...

Solid Snake07 posted...

If you dont teach your kids not to act like entitled assholes someone else will beat them for you at some point or another.

what a narrow life you must live.

A "narrow life"? Lol, Theres no reason to throw around nonsense. I actually have a kid, do you?
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Not inherently. Depends how far they take it.
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Yes. No exceptions.
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UnholyMudcrab posted...

Yes. No exceptions.

"I've never raised a child"
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Solid Snake07 posted...

A "narrow life"? Lol, Theres no reason to throw around nonsense. I actually have a kid, do you?

No, that's why I can say this. You're the biased one here.

Dude really tried the "don't tell me how to raise my child" card lol. As if being a parent makes you infallible.

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Solid Snake07 posted...

UnholyMudcrab posted...

Yes. No exceptions.

"I've never raised a child"

"I beat my child, because if I don't, someone else will"
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yes. spanking your child is a lazy attempt of behavioral correction

fohstick posted...

yes. spanking your child is a lazy attempt of behavioral correction

yup. literally people who don't know what else to do.

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Obviously!
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God_Of_Entirety posted...

BobanMarjanovic posted...

Do you hit a dog that misbehaves?

interesting analogy

hitting a dog doesn't work at all. prefer the old solution of being a firm handler (based on the sensitivity of the dog) and rewarding with positive reinforcement aka treat for bathroom outside.

a sweet dog is definitely a keeper.

as a parent: using timeout/restriction works far better for learning proper lesson. then again i'm not a qualified parent (mental fortitude is low).
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God_Of_Entirety posted...

fohstick posted...

yes. spanking your child is a lazy attempt of behavioral correction

yup. literally people who don't know what else to do.

You're creating a connection towards bad behavior and a negative stimulus. You could set up a system where you spray them with citronella oil if that's your bag, but that would be cruel and unusual.

Children are more aware than people give them credit for, but at younger ages there needs to be a clear distinction between right and wrong. Screaming at them would be just as scarring to a developing mind.
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... And who the heck says you should be screaming at your kids?
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abusing children is bad
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I'd also like to point out that people stop beating their kids usually once they hit puberty. Why because the child isn't small it and can actually fight back

Proving that beatings are only done because you know you're physically stronger not because it's the most effective disciplinary method.
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Yes it is.

If they aren't about to literally kill themselves or others, there is no need to lay your hands on them and you have failed in that moment as a parent if you do.

If it's not okay to hit adults or strangers, then it isn't okay to hit young children. Hell, some people hit their dogs less than they hit their children
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Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. - Proverbs 23:13

Cant believe TC is arguing narrow absolute positions on this when the verb used was beat. Theres a very clear difference between a spank and a beating - and if you cant differentiate between the two then that is concerning.

And yes Im a parent as well to a young daughter.

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God_Of_Entirety posted...

All I asked about was beating. Whata up with all the qualifiers to support your stance... It's yes or no

It's fair to explain that you think spanking is okay, since simply saying "yes" might imply that you also think spanking makes you a bad parent.

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gloBal enemy posted...

Cant believe TC is arguing narrow absolute positions on this when the verb used was beat.

gloBal enemy posted...

Theres a very clear difference between a spank and a beating - and if you cant differentiate between the two then that is concerning.

it's... almost... like I used the exact term I wanted to discuss!

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didnt say anything about a pop, a spank, a scold, or whatever you guys need to use to justify yourselves.

the thread is about beating.

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God_Of_Entirety posted...

didnt say anything about a pop, a spank, a scold, or whatever you guys need to use to justify yourselves.

the thread is about beating.

You literally quoted those who provided clarity in their responses as to how they interpreted your question and assigned them to an absolute position of no (ie supportive of beating) when I think their answers wouldve been more likely to be a yes in response to your poll, or at the very least ambiguous.

Either you are misguided in your understanding of the viewpoints by those you are polling, or you dont actually care about what their views are and are just trying to support a position you have in mind.

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why do people think just because you make a thread you cant argue in it.

of course I already had a position.

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yes leading in a landslide by the way.


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Depends on the reason but generally I question its effectiveness in most cases.

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D_Fen_Door posted...

Depends on the reason but generally I question its effectiveness in most cases.

it definitely succeeds in making a child fear pain.

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