Current Events > Are you a bad parent if you beat your child?

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God_Of_Entirety posted...

why do people think just because you make a thread you cant argue in it.

of course I already had a position.

the issue I had was you skewing peoples responses into something they werent.

anyway its nearly 2am here so cbf to debate this. Good luck with your kid.

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DevsBro posted...

God_Of_Entirety posted...

DevsBro posted...

Beat yes, of course.
Pop or spank no.

I didnt ask about "pop" or anything other than beating.

A lot of people don't seem to realize there's a difference, so I wanted to specify.

Just to clear things up for any bystanders, "popping" and spanking your child is still beating him or her. Do not be fooled by backwards, dated ideals from the deep south
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There is not a lot of effective difference between spanking and beating as far as effective discipline.

And no one ever explains why it's never okay to hit people or pets, unless they are a young person who sprang from your loins.
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hockeybub89 posted...

There is not a lot of effective difference between spanking and beating as far as effective discipline.

And no one ever explains why it's never okay to hit people or pets, unless they are a young person who sprang from your loins.

You wouldn't get it if you're not a parent. You see, when you finally reproduce, a chemical in your brain is released called "childabusium"

This chemical (rightfully) makes you think that beating a defenseless creature is an appropriate reaction to them throwing a tantrum. Stop being a snowflake, my parents beat me and I turned out just fine! I beat my kids, I turned out just fine!
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I think they are at least misinformed.

God_Of_Entirety posted...

it definitely succeeds in making a child fear pain.

It could also have the opposite effect though. I know a guy who fifty/sixty years ago went to some school in a third world country where the teachers pretty much beat the crap out of students. He said there were some students who stopped caring, they'd act up and just stick their hand out when the teacher comes to hit it with whatever thick stick they had.

Pretty messed up tbh.

I hesitate to say that spanking/"beating" (in a manner that does not actually cause visible damage) automatically makes one a "bad parent" because I know a lot of people who turned out good but who had parents that hit them as children, and they say good things about their parents. At the same time I know plenty of good people who say their parents never hit them. So all in all, it's not a black and white situation, but again I just question the effectiveness of such tactics. Do they give results? Probably not in most cases, but maybe there's some nightmare kid out there where this is the only way they will listen, I dunno. Again though one questions what the parents did for their kid to turn out that way... it's a complicated matter.

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If a child is misbehaving to the point of where beating him/her is the ONLY option, that child has emotional issues. and physical harm is probably the last thing you should be administering
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Of course not. People who keep saying you only need positive reinforcement to educate children are lying. And no, time-out doesn't work with many kids. I keep saying respect means fear. If you don't fear someone you most probably have no respect for that person. You only obey the police or the court because they have the power to punish you (physically or otherwise) If they didn't, you wouldn't care for what they said.

God_Of_Entirety posted...

If a child is misbehaving to the point of where beating him/her is the ONLY option, that child has emotional issues. and physical harm is probably the last thing you should be administering

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I'm not comprehending why so many people are consciously labeling beating as other things like spanking, popping, hitting and then saying those specific forms of beating (child abuse) are ok. Fuckin lotta messed up people in this world and yall itching to make it worse
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D_Fen_Door posted...

I know a guy who fifty/sixty years ago went to some school in a third world country where the teachers pretty much beat the crap out of students. He said there were some students who stopped caring, they'd act up and just stick their hand out when the teacher comes to hit it with whatever thick stick they had.

First thing everyone should know about punishment: it must be applied immediately after the undesired behavior and it must be sufficiently harsh to hurt. If it only hurts a little it won't be effective.

Pukelid posted...

I'm not comprehending why so many people are consciously labeling beating as other things like spanking, popping, hitting and then saying those specific forms of beating (child abuse) are ok. Fuckin lotta messed up people in this world and yall itching to make it worse

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VayneSolo posted...

And no, time-out doesn't work with many kids.

Not to mention, that really might be worse.

I mean, a spanking lasts like three seconds. Versus how long are you leaving them in solitary confinement? >_>
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God_Of_Entirety posted...

Solid Snake07 posted...

A "narrow life"? Lol, Theres no reason to throw around nonsense. I actually have a kid, do you?

No, that's why I can say this. You're the biased one here.

Dude really tried the "don't tell me how to raise my child" card lol. As if being a parent makes you infallible.

No I pulled the you dont know what you're talking about card. Cause you have no first hand experiance
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BobanMarjanovic posted...

Do you hit a dog that misbehaves?

Doesnt apply dogs arent people

Tubesteak posted...

BobanMarjanovic posted...

Do you hit a dog that misbehaves?

Doesnt apply dogs arent people

The answer is no in both situations
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ASithLord7 posted...

The answer is no in both situations

this. people are some savages man

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You can always tell who has kids and who doesnt.
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WashYourHands posted...

You can always tell who has kids and who doesnt.

You can always tell which parents their they're discipline is infallible and which don't.

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Yeah. Spanking has been known to cause the same type of issues as well, so trying to differentiate between beating and spanking is foolish. There are tons of studies on this already. There's none saying it's helpful in any manner. That's mostly anecdotal.

It might work in some cases because rulling through fear works. At the end of the day, if the child is at the point of being that bad, it's likely a mental thing, or just you imparting your shitty behavior on them and then hurting then when they mimic or don't listen.

ChrisTaka posted...

this is a stupid and incorrect take
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My parents spanked me and I turned out fine

Or did I????
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EzeDoesIt posted...

CanuckCowboy posted...

Are you a bad driver if you have an at fault accident literally every time youre behind the wheel?

Yeah but at least those cars know not to talk back to you next time

Lmao. True.
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Nope. Sometimes it's needed.
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Hitler wasn't spanked as a child.

Depends. Have you exhausted all other forms of communication? If yes, kick their ass.
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Knowledge_King posted...

Nope. Sometimes it's needed.

You're a Holocaust denier, so you'll excuse us for ignoring your opinions about the kids you'll never have.
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ASithLord7 posted...

Knowledge_King posted...

Nope. Sometimes it's needed.

You're a Holocaust denier, so you'll excuse us for ignoring your opinions about the kids you'll never have.

Did your main get warned?
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Kind of a dumb poll, "beating" in what context?

I think full-out paddling, hitting, excessive spanking, and belts are abusive.

A mild spanking isn't bad, though.

Also, frequency matters, too. I've only been spanked two or three times, and that was only when I was being a real shithead. If you're smacking your kid for every minor wrongdoing that might be too much.

As a first resort yes After progressive discipline no.

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Hell no. If a child is bad then you get the belt. Ive been whipped plenty of times and do you see me with depression like all the doctors said?
Plus, I know kids who curse at there parents. Do they get the belt? Hell no
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I used to be one the fence with hitting your child but I hadnt actually seen somebody hit their child irl until a few weeks ago on the subway.

The kid wasnt paying attention to what their mom was saying so she smacked her upside of the head and then proceeded to verbally reprimand her. Watching it didnt feel... right. The kid couldnt have been older than 8 or maybe 9. I felt pretty bad for her. Im gonna lean towards the you are a pretty shitty person if you hit your child based on that

Diamond_Of_Time posted...

Hell no. If a child is bad then you get the belt. Ive been whipped plenty of times and do you see me with depression like all the doctors said?
Plus, I know kids who curse at there parents. Do they get the belt? Hell no

Maybe your parents should've beaten proper English spelling into you.
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Obviously, yes, but there's a difference between beating your child and disciplining them.

ASithLord7 posted...

Diamond_Of_Time posted...

Hell no. If a child is bad then you get the belt. Ive been whipped plenty of times and do you see me with depression like all the doctors said?
Plus, I know kids who curse at there parents. Do they get the belt? Hell no

Maybe your parents should've beaten proper
English spelling into you.

No- just use a belt, hanger, or a switch
And it would be a waste of time teaching me, when they can just beat me when my grades are bad
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ASithLord7 posted...

You're a Holocaust denier, so you'll excuse us for ignoring your opinions about the kids you'll never have.

Hmm I see no proof about these strange claims. And why would that warrant not having kids? I'm confused.
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Knowledge_King posted...

ASithLord7 posted...

You're a Holocaust denier, so you'll excuse us for ignoring your opinions about the kids you'll never have.

Hmm I see no proof about these strange claims. And why would that warrant not having kids? I'm confused.

You're confused as to why Holocaust deniers would be advised not to breed?
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Knowledge_King posted...

ASithLord7 posted...

You're a Holocaust denier, so you'll excuse us for ignoring your opinions about the kids you'll never have.

Hmm I see no proof about these strange claims. And why would that warrant not having kids? I'm confused.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/78110986/929271846
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Tubesteak posted...

BobanMarjanovic posted...

Do you hit a dog that misbehaves?

Doesnt apply dogs arent people

Are children less than dogs?
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fohstick posted...

yes. spanking your child is a lazy attempt of behavioral correction

You dont see kids who get spanked talking back to adults or ESPECIALLY there parents
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ChrisTaka posted...

So true
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BobanMarjanovic posted...

Do you hit a dog that misbehaves?

Yep
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hockeybub89 posted...

Tubesteak posted...

BobanMarjanovic posted...

Do you hit a dog that misbehaves?

Doesnt apply dogs arent people

Are children less than dogs?

There demons
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physical discipline is a necessary part in raising a kid, it gives them boundaries and teaches them to respect others

Solid Snake07 posted...

God_Of_Entirety posted...

Solid Snake07 posted...

I think it's fine to spank your kid as a last resort. The word "beat" kind of implies you've gone beyond a simple spanking

Another no for the poll

Alright then, if you say so.

If you dont teach your kids not to act like entitled assholes someone else will beat them for you at some point or another. Hopefully they'll show some restraint.....

It is entirely possible to teach your kids good behaviour without ever placing a finger on them.
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Kaiganeer posted...

physical discipline is a necessary part in raising a kid, it gives them boundaries and teaches them to respect others

Yes!
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I wonder what the world will be like with an entire generation of people raised with no more discipline than *calm tone* "Now now Billy, please stop throwing those glasses around. They belong to the store son, they aren't yours to throw. I know you're upset that I won't let you have your candy bar now, but I promise you can open it the second we leave the store. Just please.. stop screaming. Please son."

I also notice that a lot of parents these days just straight up ignore their kids when they're throwing a massive tantrum. Like pretend they're not even there. I wonder how that works out?

Another reason I'm not really interested in having kids, I feel like there's no winning in situations like these.
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