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MrMallard
10/22/19 11:48:03 PM
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/china-xinjiang-uighur-muslim-detention-camps-xi-jinping-persecution-a9165896.html

Caution: This article contains graphic details that may be distressing for some readers.


A Muslim woman who escaped from a state re-education camp in China has said inmates were gang-raped, subjected to torture and medical experiments and forced to eat pork.

Sayragul Sauytbay, a Chinese Muslim of Kazakh descent, said she was detained by the state in November 2017.

The 43-year-old teacher was escorted by armed men to a camp, where she was held for several months, according to Haaretz.

She was ordered to teach inmates Chinese.

It was forbidden to speak with the prisoners, forbidden to laugh, forbidden to cry and forbidden to answer questions from anyone, she said.

There were almost 20 people in a room of 16 square meters.

There were cameras in their rooms, too, and also in the corridor. Each room had a plastic bucket for a toilet. Every prisoner was given two minutes a day to use the toilet, and the bucket was emptied only once a day.

Ms Sautybay said women were systematically raped and that she was forced to watch a woman be repeatedly assaulted.

The policemen ordered her to disrobe and simply raped her one after the other, in front of everyone, she told Haaretz.

While they were raping her they checked to see how we were reacting. People who turned their head or closed their eyes, and those who looked angry or shocked, were taken away and we never saw them again.

It was awful. I will never forget the feeling of helplessness, of not being able to help her.

She added: On an everyday basis the policemen took the pretty girls with them, and they didnt come back to the rooms all night.

China is believed to have detained more than a million people from mostly Muslim ethnic minorities in the province of Xinjiang since 2017.

Global concern over the camps has increased in recent months, with Mike Pompeo, the US secretary of state, calling Beijings treatment of Muslim minorities the stain of the century.

Ms Satuybay said that as well as torture, prisoners were also subjected to mysterious human experiments.

The inmates would be given pills or injections, she said. [They] had different kinds of effects.

Some prisoners were cognitively weakened. Women stopped getting their period and men became sterile.

The 43-year-old was instructed to teach the prisoners Communist Party propaganda songs and slogans.

As a camp teacher she avoided the very worst of the alleged conditions.

The inmates were forced to recite slogans such as: I love China, Thank you to the Communist Party, I am Chinese and I love Xi Jinping.

Ms Sautybay also said that all inmates, including observant Muslim prisoners, were forced to eat pork.

The food was bad, there werent enough hours for sleep and the hygiene was atrocious, the teacher said.

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MrMallard
10/22/19 11:48:12 PM
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In March 2018 the 43-year-old was released from the camp and ordered to return to her former role as the director of five nurseries.

She was fired three days after returning and once again interrogated by police officers, who accused her of treason.

Ms Sautybay was told she would return to a camp as a regular inmate instead of a teacher.

Having already been in a camp, I knew what it meant. I knew I would die there, and I could not accept that, she said.

I said to myself that if I was already fated to die, at least I was going to try to escape.

The 43-year-old escaped by climbing through a window to a neighbours house. She then took a taxi to Chinas border with Kazakhstan, which she managed to cross.

In Kazakhstan I found my family, she said. My dream came true. I could not have received a greater gift.

Ms Sauytbay was arrested by Kazakhstans secret service for crossing the border but was eventually granted asylum in Sweden.

The world must find a solution so that my people can live in peace, she said.

The democratic governments must do all they can to make China stop doing what it is doing in Xinjiang.

Beijing has denied the 43-year-olds allegations.

The Independent has contacted the Chinese embassy in London for comment.

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fohstick
10/22/19 11:51:51 PM
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chinese unit 731
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Hop103
10/22/19 11:52:37 PM
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Jinping needs to be overthrown and get the same treatment to his corpse that Mussolini got.
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apolloooo
10/22/19 11:53:46 PM
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They harvest their organs too while being conscious
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sylverlolol
10/22/19 11:54:12 PM
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Good lord fuck Chinas communist party
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Ving_Rhames
10/22/19 11:54:31 PM
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No one is going to interfere with Chinas doings for the benefit of its citizens. China has been allowed so many allowances at this point that they KNOW they can get away with anything within its own borders; theyre right.
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davidg4l
10/23/19 12:10:08 AM
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People who support these atrocities can't even be considered human.
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evil_zombie11
10/23/19 12:11:34 AM
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fohstick posted...
chinese unit 731


Jesus Christ the Unit 731 books were pretty dark. D:
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DarkProto05
10/23/19 12:12:02 AM
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Nuke all of China.
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WerewolfPaws
10/23/19 12:17:09 AM
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Literally a modern day holocaust.
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KingArthur3D
10/23/19 12:17:51 AM
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Americans/founding fathers raped, murdered, tortured etc. for hundreds of years and are considered heroes. This too shall pass. China has too much money for anyone to care about morality.

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Politics
10/23/19 12:21:43 AM
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What cracks me up is how people on /r/communism talk about how GREAT China is. I mean for fuck sake NONE of this is what Karl Marx had in mind lmao.
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TrowaBarton7
10/23/19 12:24:37 AM
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https://mobile.twitter.com/ryanmcmanimie/status/1185295728912064513

In 2018, Sayragul Sauytbay testified that she personally did not witness any violence in the Xinjiang camps.

However today she curiously alleges, at length and with remarkable detail, how the conditions were *actually* more akin to the storyline of Saw 3 meets Hostel.

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ThyCorndog
10/23/19 12:27:13 AM
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this is what i've been saying but china shills always deny it
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davidg4l
10/23/19 12:28:16 AM
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Oh and let's not forget that this happened some time ago:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/17/think-of-your-family-china-threatens-european-citizens-over-xinjiang-protests?

Emets sister began by praising the Communist party and making claims of a much improved life under its guidance before delivering a shock: his brother had died a year earlier. But Emet, 54, was suspicious from the start; he had never given his family his phone number. Amid the heartbreaking news and sloganeering, he could hear a flurry of whispers in the background, and he demanded to speak to the unknown voice. Moments later the phone was handed to a Chinese official who refused to identify himself.


Some of these people in the concentration camp are threatened against speaking up against the tyranny of China.
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TrowaBarton7
10/23/19 12:35:21 AM
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This is the Nayirah testimony all over again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony

The Nayirah testimony was a false testimony given before the Congressional Human Rights Caucus on October 10, 1990 by a 15-year-old girl who provided only her first name, Nayirah. The testimony was widely publicized, and was cited numerous times by United States senators and President George H. W. Bush in their rationale to back Kuwait in the Gulf War.

Furthermore, it was revealed that her testimony was organized as part of the Citizens for a Free Kuwait public relations campaign, which was run by the American public relations firm Hill & Knowlton for the Kuwaiti government. Following this, al-Sabah's testimony has come to be regarded as a classic example of modern atrocity propaganda.[1][2]

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burns112233
10/23/19 12:38:50 AM
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If China makes medication for U.S., what's say they potentially posion the medication to harm Americans and use those prisoners as test subjects to see how they could get those bad side effects?
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Flockaveli
10/23/19 12:42:28 AM
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Giblet_Enjoyer
10/23/19 12:50:23 AM
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TrowaBarton7 posted...
This is the Nayirah testimony all over again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony

The Nayirah testimony was a false testimony given before the Congressional Human Rights Caucus on October 10, 1990 by a 15-year-old girl who provided only her first name, Nayirah. The testimony was widely publicized, and was cited numerous times by United States senators and President George H. W. Bush in their rationale to back Kuwait in the Gulf War.

Furthermore, it was revealed that her testimony was organized as part of the Citizens for a Free Kuwait public relations campaign, which was run by the American public relations firm Hill & Knowlton for the Kuwaiti government. Following this, al-Sabah's testimony has come to be regarded as a classic example of modern atrocity propaganda.[1][2]

That's fucking insane. Some random 15 year old she-fibber has the power to change the tide of a war.
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Squall28
10/23/19 12:51:10 AM
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What the fuck is wrong with the Chinese government?
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IHeartRadiation
10/23/19 1:04:19 AM
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Rika_Furude
10/23/19 1:05:11 AM
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China needs to fuck off along with all their supporters, defenders and sympathisers
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Zikten
10/23/19 1:07:26 AM
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DarkProto05 posted...
Nuke all of China.

the people inside china are victims. we need to just cut off the head of the snake and destroy the government
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aki_sora
10/23/19 1:08:45 AM
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Why something like this don't have video or picture?

Sometimes it hard to believe because people can make up story and edit
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TrowaBarton7
10/23/19 1:13:18 AM
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aki_sora posted...
Why something like this don't have video or picture?

Sometimes it hard to believe because people can make up story and edit


Yes, this is exactly what happened with North Korean defectors. They have a financial incentive to lie and exaggerate their story, and then go on to get lucrative book deals.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/13/why-do-north-korean-defector-testimonies-so-often-fall-apart

In my 16 years studying North Korean refugees, I have experienced numerous inconsistent stories, some intentional omission and occasionally, some lies. In one case the breach of trust was so significant that I could not continue my research not just because it affected my professional capacity to analyse and deliver credible stories in an ethical way, but because it also had a deep impact on the personal trust I had invested in subjects I had sincerely cared about.

But many refugees say they feel pressured for defector stories. Ahn Myung-chol, a former prison guard at Camp 22, said people liked shocking stories and these so-called defector-activists were merely responding to this desire. Chong Kwang-il, a former prisoner at Camp 15, said the fame brought by media exposure trapped them, forcing them to reproduce a certain narrative.

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Ving_Rhames
10/23/19 1:15:23 AM
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Whos alt
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ThyCorndog
10/23/19 1:16:16 AM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
Whos alt

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008Zulu
10/23/19 1:31:37 AM
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Squall28 posted...
What the fuck is wrong with the Chinese government?

Everything.
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kingdrake2
10/23/19 1:43:13 AM
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burns112233 posted...
If China makes medication for U.S., what's say they potentially posion the medication to harm Americans and use those prisoners as test subjects to see how they could get those bad side effects?


i don't think china makes medication for the US. maybe in other countries but not them.
could be wrong though.
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TrowaBarton7
10/23/19 1:46:02 AM
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kingdrake2 posted...
burns112233 posted...
If China makes medication for U.S., what's say they potentially posion the medication to harm Americans and use those prisoners as test subjects to see how they could get those bad side effects?


i don't think china makes medication for the US. maybe in other countries but not them.
could be wrong, not 100% right.


Think again. China produces all of the worlds antibiotics:

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2018-05-08/trumps-quest-for-lower-drug-prices-may-provoke-china-trade-war-experts-warn


TWO PILLARS OF TRUMP administration policy combating the soaring prices for prescription drugs and equalizing the U.S. trade imbalance with China appear to be on a collision course, drug and foreign policy experts say.

That's because the key ingredients for so many essential drugs, from antibiotics and birth control pills to treatments for cancer, depression, high cholesterol and HIV/AIDS, are purchased from China, says Rosemary Gibson, co-author with Janardan Prasad Singh of a new book called "ChinaRx: Exposing the Risks of America's Dependence on China for Medicine."

China has exclusive manufacturing agreements for drugs for anesthesia, cancer and HIV/AIDS, along with other medicines that "we use every day, not only in hospitals but in our own medicine chests," Gibson says, adding that China is now the world's only source of antibiotics, including the main ingredient in vancomycin, a treatment of last resort that is used by patients who are suffering from infections that are resistant to other treatment.

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TRC
10/23/19 1:46:30 AM
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Interesting and nostalgic username save for some spelling differences @TrowaBarton7
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MrMallard
10/23/19 7:13:55 AM
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Can we get this topic back on the road? We already know Chinese "re-education" camps are organ harvesting shitholes, and given China's perchant for making people disappear, I wouldn't begrudge a person for holding back information initially.

Dude came in here ready to defend the fucking motherland, Jesus
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butthole666
10/23/19 11:49:03 AM
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TrowaBarton7 posted...
https://mobile.twitter.com/ryanmcmanimie/status/1185295728912064513

This thread reads like it was typed by a fluent ESL speaker. Denounces every detail as fantastical. Calls her own credibility into question.


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UnfairRepresent
10/23/19 11:51:09 AM
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KingArthur3D posted...
Americans/founding fathers

Shut the fuck up
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DarthAragorn
10/23/19 11:52:39 AM
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Why is that dumb fuck China shill still allowed to post here
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mario2000
10/23/19 11:54:34 AM
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some ppl tryna earn those social credit points itt

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kingdrake2
10/23/19 11:54:58 AM
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if it caused bad reactions i would stop taking it.
goddamn china ><.
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marc55
10/23/19 11:59:37 AM
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TrowaBarton7 posted...
https://mobile.twitter.com/ryanmcmanimie/status/1185295728912064513

In 2018, Sayragul Sauytbay testified that she personally did not witness any violence in the Xinjiang camps.

However today she curiously alleges, at length and with remarkable detail, how the conditions were *actually* more akin to the storyline of Saw 3 meets Hostel.

vmRDW9m
iv4rB7y

i probably missed
it but it looks like everyone here has on on ignore list because i didnt see anyone answering to your post
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treewojima
10/23/19 12:06:52 PM
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0.5 RMB have been deposited into your account
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user-2
10/23/19 12:31:26 PM
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this sounds fake
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mario2000
10/23/19 1:15:16 PM
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user-2 posted...
this sounds fake


2 points have been added to your social credit score.

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008Zulu
10/24/19 3:46:58 AM
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user-2 posted...
this sounds fake

The most horrific examples of human cruelty often do, because we would like to believe we could never be so low. And yet...
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user-2
10/24/19 4:00:34 AM
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008Zulu posted...
The most horrific examples of human cruelty often do, because we would like to believe we could never be so low. And yet...


Not that. I have heard stuff of people who did worse and I believed it but the way this is written seems like propaganda.
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IHeartRadiation
10/24/19 1:24:41 PM
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user-2 posted...
this sounds fake


IHeartRadiation posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_China

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apocalyptic_4
10/24/19 1:28:00 PM
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I couldn't read much more of that jfc that sounds horrific
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mario2000
10/24/19 4:58:01 PM
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mrgoatthief posted...
Skeletons winnie the pooh hearthstone tournament prize money


free tibet free hong kong free taiwan homosexuality south park

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onedarksoul
10/24/19 5:30:20 PM
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these are real atrocities and are being under reported. But yeah, by all means lets continue screaming about Trump
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