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marthsheretoo
10/23/19 8:27:53 PM
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Garioshi posted...
Doom_Art posted...
au_gold posted...
BvS didn't ruin a franchise.
why is it that it seems like everyone is trying to one-up each other to see how dramatic they can be

"TLJ was bad"
"oh yeah well TLJ was terrible"
"oh yeah well TLJ is worse than AotC"
"oh yeah well TLJ destroyed the series"

Can't wait for "TLJ killed my entire family"


TLJ slept with my mother and broke my whole family apart, then vanished into the night with the family jewelry.

Or at least, the Master Codebreaker did.
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Doom_Art
10/23/19 8:28:27 PM
#255:


Garioshi posted...
Can't wait for "TLJ killed my entire family"
I did hear one story (which I'm sure was fake) about how TLJ "forced" someone who'd been a fan his whole life to sell his $10K collection of merchandise and shit.

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IShall_Run_Amok
10/23/19 8:39:30 PM
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TLJ burned my steak and kicked my goldfish.
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s0nicfan
10/23/19 8:56:47 PM
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Hairistotle posted...
i cant speak for anyone else, but i walked into the last jedi excited for more star wars and walked out of it not caring about star wars anymore. i went into the movie almost totally blind, and i liked the force awakens a lot


I'm not sure if this quote from Rian Johnson is common knowledge at this point, but this is what he had to say in 2003 on the subject of making a big budget movie:
I would be worried if everybody across the board was like yeah, it was a good movie its much more exciting to me when you get a group of people who are coming up to you who are really really excited about it. Then there are other people who walk out literally saying its the worst movie Ive ever seen. Having those two extremes is the mark of the type of movie that I want to make.


Dude is just a troll who was given the reins to one of the biggest franchises in the world and intentionally made it as divisive as possible.
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Banjo2553
10/23/19 8:59:11 PM
#259:


au_gold posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
It happens a lot around here. I get the same reaction when I say good things about the Batman v Superman ultimate cut.

BvS didn't ruin a franchise.

I'd argue it did since the DC cinematic universe is struggling to find good footing ever since.

And TLJ didn't ruin a franchise, quit that melodramatic bullcrap.
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ledbowman
10/23/19 9:01:18 PM
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Garioshi posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
Garioshi posted...
It's absolutely hilarious that people think I'm not a serious person because I enjoyed a movie, though.

It happens a lot around here. I get the same reaction when I say good things about the Batman v Superman ultimate cut.

I don't like BvS in general, but the ultimate cut definitely steps it up a notch.

How so. I haven't seen it since theaters and wish I liked it more (even though I saw it twice lol)
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au_gold
10/23/19 9:04:18 PM
#261:


Banjo2553 posted...
I'd argue it did since the DC cinematic universe is struggling to find good footing ever since.

And TLJ didn't ruin a franchise, quit that melodramatic bullcrap.

Man of Steel ruined it before it even had footing.

And yes, it did. It severely hindered the new trilogy if nothing else.
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Banjo2553
10/23/19 9:07:52 PM
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au_gold posted...
And yes, it did. It severely hindered the new trilogy if nothing else.

You'd only have an argument for the sequel trilogy since I agree it seems like Abrams is trying to do cleanup after Rian's mess. There's nothing saying that any future Star Wars movies can't be good. TLJ didn't do anything that would impact future movies outside the new trilogy.
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PokemonYoutube
10/23/19 9:15:04 PM
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au_gold posted...
Man of Steel ruined it before it even had footing.

And yes, it did. It severely hindered the new trilogy if nothing else.
Definitely. You can clearly tell that they were setting up Kylo & Snoke as the new Vader & Emperor in TFA. Therefore it would make sense that the epic final confrontation with Snoke would take place in the third movie. And then Rian Johnson goes ahead and kills off Snoke in the second movie, leaving the third movie without a logical big bad. Hence JJ Abrams bringing back Palpatine out of nowhere.
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closetkpopfan
10/23/19 9:18:23 PM
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By itself TLJ isn't a bad movie, it's actually pretty good (aside from everything Finn and Rose anyway). The problem is it's episode 8 though, not a stand alone movie. As a sequel to 7, and overall continuation of the series it failed miserably IMO. Every single major plot point TFA set up, the TLJ literally threw in the trash just to subvert expectations as much as possible. There's nothing wrong with subverting expectations, but when you're doing it just for the sake of doing it, and not for the sake of the overall story it's not going to go over very well as evidenced by the movie's divisive reception.

I said it after it was confirmed Abrahams was doing Ep 9, it's going to be hilarious when JJ turns right back around and ****s on everything TLJ did, just like Johnson did to TFA. We will find out who Snoke was and about Rey's parents. Hell even just bringing Palpatine back tells you JJ is giving TLJ the middle finger right back with all it's "let the past die" marketing.

This is why I don't understand why people who liked TFA, but hated TLJ, aren't interested in ROS or act like TLJ ruined the series for them. JJ likes to give people what they want, Luke will be Luke again, all the questions the first movie set up will be answered. That's literally all he has to do and people will be satisfied. Throw in Palpatine as the final boss and you've got an easy movie to make.
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DevsBro
10/23/19 10:00:54 PM
#267:


Zikten posted...
nah I hated it too. it ruins his arc. his whole thing, the whole thing that made him interesting was his hero worship of Vader. they ruined it.

What it did was it pointed out that he's not Vader and he should really stop trying to be Vader. When he's unmasked in 7, you realize this is just some emo kid trying way too hard to be edgy, and he never even goes back.

Then in 8 they really drove it home when even Snoke agrees that he's really not cut out to be Vader. "Take off that ridiculous helmet."
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Gobstoppers12
10/23/19 10:14:00 PM
#268:


au_gold posted...

BvS didn't ruin a franchise.

Neither did TLJ
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PokemonYoutube
10/23/19 10:22:03 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Neither did TLJ
A large part of the reason why Solo bombed was because TLJ ruined Star Wars for a lot of people. And as a result, lot of spinoff movies were cancelled.
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Gobstoppers12
10/23/19 10:26:19 PM
#270:


PokemonYoutube posted...
Gobstoppers12 posted...
Neither did TLJ
A large part of the reason why Solo bombed was because TLJ ruined Star Wars for a lot of people. And as a result, lot of spinoff movies were cancelled.

Which ones were cancelled?
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PokemonYoutube
10/23/19 10:50:20 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Which ones were cancelled?
Boba Fett and Obi-Wan, IIRC. Though they did bring Obi-Wan back as a Disney+ series, I suppose.
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Doom_Art
10/23/19 11:23:15 PM
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Boba Fett was cancelled before TLJ because Josh Trank is a lunatic btw

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ledbowman
10/23/19 11:31:45 PM
#273:


closetkpopfan posted...
Every single major plot point TFA set up, the TLJ literally threw in the trash just to subvert expectations as much as possible... doing it just for the sake of doing it, and not for the sake of the overall story

Why do you think that's what it is
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Garioshi
10/24/19 9:28:35 AM
#274:


Should I watch The Phantom Menace or The Phantom Edit?
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UnholyMudcrab
10/24/19 9:47:08 AM
#275:


Garioshi posted...
Should I watch The Phantom Menace or The Phantom Edit?

You should watch The Phantom Thread
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ledbowman
10/24/19 10:07:51 AM
#276:


Garioshi posted...
Should I watch The Phantom Menace or The Phantom Edit?

The Phantom Menace. You want the authentic george lucas experience not some watered down cry baby cut
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Garioshi
10/24/19 10:18:02 AM
#277:


ledbowman posted...
Garioshi posted...
Should I watch The Phantom Menace or The Phantom Edit?

The Phantom Menace. You want the authentic george lucas experience not some watered down cry baby cut

I don't think I want the authentic George Lucas experience
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ledbowman
10/24/19 10:19:32 AM
#278:


Garioshi posted...
ledbowman posted...
Garioshi posted...
Should I watch The Phantom Menace or The Phantom Edit?

The Phantom Menace. You want the authentic george lucas experience not some watered down cry baby cut

I don't think I want the authentic George Lucas experience

You should just stop then
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Garioshi
10/24/19 11:07:54 AM
#279:


ledbowman posted...
Garioshi posted...
ledbowman posted...
Garioshi posted...
Should I watch The Phantom Menace or The Phantom Edit?

The Phantom Menace. You want the authentic george lucas experience not some watered down cry baby cut

I don't think I want the authentic George Lucas experience

You should just stop then

Perhaps
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Garioshi
10/24/19 12:07:38 PM
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I saw the deleted scene, that was great.
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DevsBro
10/24/19 12:49:34 PM
#281:


Garioshi posted...
ledbowman posted...
Garioshi posted...
Should I watch The Phantom Menace or The Phantom Edit?

The Phantom Menace. You want the authentic george lucas experience not some watered down cry baby cut

I don't think I want the authentic George Lucas experience

That was the joke lol
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ledbowman
10/24/19 12:55:02 PM
#282:


DevsBro posted...
Garioshi posted...
ledbowman posted...
Garioshi posted...
Should I watch The Phantom Menace or The Phantom Edit?

The Phantom Menace. You want the authentic george lucas experience not some watered down cry baby cut

I don't think I want the authentic George Lucas experience

That was the joke lol

I never joke about star wars
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Talk2DaHand
10/24/19 1:00:19 PM
#283:


boxington posted...
yea, even though it's widely criticized, I really enjoyed TLJ.


That's me as well. My dad is OG fan and he loved it.
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teepan95
10/24/19 1:01:05 PM
#284:


What's the Phantom Edit
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