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treewojima
10/18/19 5:08:02 PM
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https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/18/boeing-shares-slide-on-report-faa-is-concerned-it-was-misled-about-737-max.html

The Federal Aviation Administration said Boeing withheld concerning messages from 2016 between employees about a flight-control system implicated in two crashes of the 737 Max, deepening the manufacturers crisis over the jets that have been grounded worldwide since March.
A Boeing test pilot complained in one of the messages that a flight control system, known as MCAS, was difficult to control, according to the messages, obtained by NBC News.

That system is at the heart of investigations into two fatal crashes. Investigators have implicated the system in both crashes a Lion Air 737 Max that went down in Indonesia in October 2018 and an Ethiopian Airlines plane of the same model that crashed in March.
Its running rampant in the sim on me, the pilot, Mark Forkner, Boeings former chief technical pilot, said in 2016 to a colleague, referring to the simulator, according to the transcript. Granted, I suck at flying, but even this was egregious.
His colleague replied that they would have to update the description of the system.
So I basically lied to regulators (unknowingly), read Forkners reply. Forkner did not immediately respond to a request for comment.


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darkphoenix181
10/18/19 5:09:31 PM
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Airlines will probably sue them for lost revenue
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treewojima
10/18/19 6:56:33 PM
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bump
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Garioshi
10/18/19 6:58:06 PM
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This just in, corporation acts in its financial interest and against the well-being of everyone else.
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Dat_Cracka_Jax
10/18/19 6:58:21 PM
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SaccharineSmile
10/18/19 7:01:50 PM
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Will the government bail out Boeing
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HBOSS
10/18/19 7:03:36 PM
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wonder if https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-28/boeing-s-737-max-software-outsourced-to-9-an-hour-engineers
...one manager saying at an all-hands meeting that Boeing didnt need senior engineers because its products were mature. I was shocked that in a room full of a couple hundred mostly senior engineers we were being told that we werent needed, said Rabin, who was laid off in 2015.
Multiple investigations including a Justice Department criminal probe are trying to unravel how and when critical decisions were made about the Maxs software. During the crashes of Lion Air and Ethiopian Airlines planes that killed 346 people, investigators suspect, the MCAS system pushed the planes into uncontrollable dives because of bad data from a single sensor.
Multiple investigations including a Justice Department criminal probe are trying to unravel how and when critical decisions were made about the Maxs software. During the crashes of Lion Air and Ethiopian Airlines planes that killed 346 people, investigators suspect, the MCAS system pushed the planes into uncontrollable dives because of bad data from a single sensor.
That design violated basic principles of redundancy for generations of Boeing engineers, and the company apparently never tested to see how the software would respond, Lemme said. It was a stunning fail, he said. A lot of people should have thought of this problem not one person and asked about it.
Boeing also has disclosed that it learned soon after Max deliveries began in 2017 that a warning light that might have alerted crews to the issue with the sensor wasnt installed correctly in the flight-display software. A Boeing statement in May, explaining why the company didnt inform regulators at the time, said engineers had determined it wasnt a safety issue.
Senior company leadership, the statement added, was not involved in the review.
Published on June 28, 2019, 1:46 PM PDT

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FL81
10/18/19 7:15:50 PM
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darkphoenix181 posted...
Airlines will probably sue them for lost revenue

as well I hope they do
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