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AmericaTheBrave 10/10/19 6:49:46 PM #1: |
https://news.sky.com/story/hundreds-of-young-trans-people-seeking-help-to-return-to-original-sex-11827740
A woman who detransitioned in 2018 says there are many people who have had gender reassignment surgery who wish they hadn't. More in link. Thoughts? --- https://i.imgtc.ws/8tc5P9i.jpg That's America's ass ... Copied to Clipboard!
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viewmaster_pi 10/10/19 6:52:32 PM #2: |
you can't talk about this, it goes against the continued pro-trans narrative and is extremely offensive, so please close the topic
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AdmiralStiff 10/10/19 6:53:31 PM #3: |
viewmaster_pi posted...
you can't talk about this, it goes against the continued pro-trans narrative and is extremely offensive, so please close the topic No, go away --- You cannot stop me from getting inside I am cold, I am hard and my name... is Reality ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Esrac 10/10/19 6:53:33 PM #4: |
It's interesting that they mention they're mostly autistic. I heard a while back that rates of autism among people who identify as trans are relatively high. I don't have any numbers though.
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Delta_F14 10/10/19 6:55:32 PM #5: |
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GoodOlJr 10/10/19 6:55:33 PM #6: |
Esrac posted...
It's interesting that they mention they're mostly autistic. I heard a while back that rates of autism among people who identify as trans are relatively high. I don't have any numbers though All the nerdy gamers transitioning, a decent amount has to fit into this --- http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3475/3291766630_b434e97925.jpg 3DS: 1005-8921-6109 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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viewmaster_pi 10/10/19 6:55:39 PM #7: |
Esrac posted...
It's interesting that they mention they're mostly autistic. I heard a while back that rates of autism among people who identify as trans are relatively high. I don't have any numbers though.also extremely offensive to even consider --- - Sent from my DynaTAC 8000X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vigorm0rtis 10/10/19 6:57:07 PM #8: |
Thoroughly unsurprised. Even aside from the autism angle, young people don't have a sense of identity established enough to make those decisions without risking this very thing.
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GoodOlJr 10/10/19 6:57:16 PM #9: |
viewmaster_pi posted...
offensive Why? --- http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3475/3291766630_b434e97925.jpg 3DS: 1005-8921-6109 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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viewmaster_pi 10/10/19 6:58:53 PM #10: |
GoodOlJr posted...
Why?it is extremely offensive to consider transgenderism a parallel of any sort to any mental disorder --- - Sent from my DynaTAC 8000X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HerpToTheDerp 10/10/19 6:59:36 PM #11: |
Hundreds out of how many? What are you trying to imply here TC?
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iPhone_7 10/10/19 6:59:36 PM #12: |
Its great that shes starting an organization to help others. Its already a really difficult journey for those conflicted about their identity. For those feeling that they may not have really been trans to begin with, its good that they can have a support group for their specific circumstances.
"She said she felt shunned by the LGBT community for being a traitor. So I felt I had to do something." This is just awful though. --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ElatedVenusaur 10/10/19 6:59:51 PM #13: |
So, what fraction of a percent is that?
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GoodOlJr 10/10/19 6:59:53 PM #14: |
Because it was decided the word disorder was negative for no reason to 2 years ago right?
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Ryuko_Chan 10/10/19 7:00:36 PM #15: |
Esrac posted...
It's interesting that they mention they're mostly autistic. I heard a while back that rates of autism among people who identify as trans are relatively high. I don't have any numbers though.autistic people have troubles with gender roles Autistic women are often more masculine and autistic men are often more feminine --- https://i.imgtc.com/LCLKlZX.gif Life Fiber Kamui SENKETSU! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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viewmaster_pi 10/10/19 7:01:03 PM #16: |
GoodOlJr posted...
Because it was decided the word disorder was negative for no reason to 2 years ago right?blame gfaqs, I didn't decide anything, I just don't want anyone getting modded, that's all --- - Sent from my DynaTAC 8000X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vigorm0rtis 10/10/19 7:03:42 PM #17: |
viewmaster_pi posted...
it is extremely offensive to consider transgenderism a parallel of any sort to any mental disorder I think you're missing the point. People who are autistic are often undiagnosed, and without context (and even frequently with) experience and overwhelming sense of otherness. It's possible that they're trying to find context by identifying as transgender. Which has nothing to do with one actually being parallel to the other. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wii_Shaker 10/10/19 7:06:34 PM #18: |
I imagine there is going to be a percentage of people who regret their choice with gender reassignment surgery. It's a colossal life choice after all.
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Ryuko_Chan 10/10/19 7:07:34 PM #19: |
Wii_Shaker posted...
I imagine there is going to be a percentage of people who regret their choice with gender reassignment surgery. It's a colossal life choice after all.Its such a crude surgery too, especially for female to male --- https://i.imgtc.com/LCLKlZX.gif Life Fiber Kamui SENKETSU! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Esrac 10/10/19 7:07:34 PM #20: |
Ryuko_Chan posted...
autistic people have troubles with gender roles I guess that makes sense. Would you suppose that autistic people are more sensitive to things like that in media? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Southernfatman 10/10/19 7:09:07 PM #21: |
There's always been trans people who've had regrets and if that's how they feel then that's how they feel. Nothing wrong with that.
I just hate how certain people are obviously using this story to smear trans people in general. --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vigorm0rtis 10/10/19 7:09:19 PM #22: |
Esrac posted...
I guess that makes sense. Would you suppose that autistic people are more sensitive to things like that in media? Amongst high functioning cases, yes. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ryuko_Chan 10/10/19 7:09:42 PM #23: |
Esrac posted...
I guess that makes sense. Would you suppose that autistic people are more sensitive to things like that in media?yea definitely --- https://i.imgtc.com/LCLKlZX.gif Life Fiber Kamui SENKETSU! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ryuko_Chan 10/10/19 7:10:04 PM #24: |
vigorm0rtis posted...
Amongst high functioning cases, yes.Low functioning too --- https://i.imgtc.com/LCLKlZX.gif Life Fiber Kamui SENKETSU! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MasterGakke 10/10/19 7:10:22 PM #25: |
Question: Why do the people who keep whining about this stuff care? Seems like you'd have to be a pretty massive loser with nothing going on in your own life to care so much about other people's lives so much that you'd whine so much.
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Ryuko_Chan 10/10/19 7:11:25 PM #26: |
MasterGakke posted...
Question: Why do the people who keep whining about this stuff care? Seems like you'd have to be a pretty massive loser with nothing going on in your own life to care so much about other people's lives so much that you'd whine so much.cuz I have small breasts I have to live with (unless I get painful surgery, which I dont think I will) and might be infertile because of it --- https://i.imgtc.com/LCLKlZX.gif Life Fiber Kamui SENKETSU! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BewmHedshot 10/10/19 7:12:03 PM #27: |
MasterGakke posted...
Question: Why do the people who keep whining about this stuff care? Seems like you'd have to be a pretty massive loser with nothing going on in your own life to care so much about other people's lives so much that you'd whine so much. It's usually this. --- Cavaliers: ONCE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shablagoo 10/10/19 7:12:30 PM #28: |
viewmaster_pi posted...
GoodOlJr posted...Because it was decided the word disorder was negative for no reason to 2 years ago right?blame gfaqs, I didn't decide anything, I just don't want anyone getting modded, that's all Can you stop building your strawman with such tremendous vigor, please? --- "Call me when you get a back-to-back-to-back-to-back. Why would I wanna be a rapper, rappers wanna be Shaq." -Shaquille O'Neal ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thanosibe 10/10/19 7:13:00 PM #29: |
MasterGakke posted...
Question: Why do the people who keep whining about this stuff care? Seems like you'd have to be a pretty massive loser with nothing going on in your own life to care so much about other people's lives so much that you'd whine so much.No one is doing that in this thread. People are discussing the OP. And isnt understanding things better come from discussion and education and not pretending its an untouchable subject? --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vigorm0rtis 10/10/19 7:13:06 PM #30: |
Ryuko_Chan posted...
Low functioning too That may be. My experience with low-functioning autistic people is that a lot of times their focus lies elsewhere. But I'm not a professional. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MasterGakke 10/10/19 7:13:14 PM #31: |
Ryuko_Chan posted...
MasterGakke posted...Question: Why do the people who keep whining about this stuff care? Seems like you'd have to be a pretty massive loser with nothing going on in your own life to care so much about other people's lives so much that you'd whine so much.cuz I have small breasts I have to live with (unless I get painful surgery, which I dont think I will) and might be infertile because of it That's you. This is other people. Again, why do you care so much about other people? People who aren't loathsome asshole losers don't care if you want to do something different with your life. --- All generalizations are false, including this one. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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viewmaster_pi 10/10/19 7:13:25 PM #32: |
Shablagoo posted...
Can you stop building your strawman with such tremendous vigor, please?i'm just looking out for my fellow users, i hate seeing people get modded --- - Sent from my DynaTAC 8000X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GoodOlJr 10/10/19 7:44:09 PM #33: |
viewmaster_pi posted...
i'm just looking out for my fellow users, i hate seeing people get modded Its w.e man, if I get 3 mods I hide my power level, if I get another I use an alt --- http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3475/3291766630_b434e97925.jpg 3DS: 1005-8921-6109 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 10/10/19 7:45:45 PM #34: |
[Citation needed]
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Medussa 10/10/19 7:50:15 PM #35: |
COVxy posted...
[Citation needed] they even admit there isn't anything backing the claim. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! So... what did we learn? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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s0nicfan 10/10/19 7:53:39 PM #36: |
ElatedVenusaur posted...
So, what fraction of a percent is that? About 0.0002% using a liberal estimate of the number of trans people and assuming this article is all the people who want to detransition. For comparison, the percentage of the population with GID is about 0.005% and a using the above the estimate of overall trans ppl in the US 0.6% So a fraction of a percent. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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untrustful 10/10/19 7:55:12 PM #37: |
I sometimes wonder if this is a politically oriented thing or a genuine attempt.
If it's genuine, great. If it isn't, then they need to stop pretending. --- My Mario Maker Levels https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/untrustful?type=posted ... Copied to Clipboard!
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COVxy 10/10/19 7:57:26 PM #38: |
untrustful posted...
I sometimes wonder if this is a politically oriented thing or a genuine attempt. It's political: https://medium.com/@charlie.evans/a-journey-from-trans-to-t-rf-25bf61455048 --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Esrac 10/10/19 9:28:03 PM #39: |
untrustful posted...
I sometimes wonder if this is a politically oriented thing or a genuine attempt. It can be both. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ryuko_Chan 10/10/19 9:53:01 PM #40: |
MasterGakke posted...
That's you. This is other people. Again, why do you care so much about other people? People who aren't loathsome asshole losers don't care if you want to do something different with your life.Because i transitioned and regret it i am one of those people the article is talking about dude --- https://i.imgtc.com/LCLKlZX.gif Life Fiber Kamui SENKETSU! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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karlpilkington4 10/10/19 9:54:56 PM #41: |
Ryuko_Chan posted...
MasterGakke posted...That's you. This is other people. Again, why do you care so much about other people? People who aren't loathsome asshole losers don't care if you want to do something different with your life.Because i transitioned and regret it What made you regret it? --- Is This The Krusty Krab? "No This Is Patrick!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tamagucci 10/10/19 9:55:56 PM #42: |
AmericaTheBrave posted...
Thoughts? My thoughts are we should really teach everyone to be comfortable in their own skin. No one should feel so off that cutting themselves up for aesthetics is the solution. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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evil_zombie11 10/10/19 9:58:11 PM #43: |
Omg this topic is so TOS unstable it's making my ex gf look sane.
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MudKip_Master 10/10/19 10:00:01 PM #44: |
Well transitioning isn't exactly a good, well, I won't say.
Too offensive even for gamefaqs... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SK8T3R215 10/10/19 10:03:59 PM #45: |
*puts mop on head*
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Ryuko_Chan 10/10/19 10:11:25 PM #46: |
karlpilkington4 posted...
What made you regret it?cuz it isnt real --- https://i.imgtc.com/LCLKlZX.gif Life Fiber Kamui SENKETSU! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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untrustful 10/11/19 3:18:20 AM #47: |
Esrac posted...
It can be both.You can't be genuine and disingenuous about something. --- My Mario Maker Levels https://supermariomakerbookmark.nintendo.net/profile/untrustful?type=posted ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ryuko_Chan 10/11/19 4:26:06 AM #48: |
untrustful posted...
You can't be genuine and disingenuous about something.Yes you can --- https://i.imgtc.com/LCLKlZX.gif Life Fiber Kamui SENKETSU! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kaliesto 10/11/19 4:34:39 AM #50: |
tamagucci posted...
My thoughts are we should really teach everyone to be comfortable in their own skin. No one should feel so off that cutting themselves up for aesthetics is the solution. --- Gimme dat, gimme dat, gimme dat DramaFAQs-misterbum ... Copied to Clipboard!
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