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jblrulez 10/05/19 8:02:50 PM #1:	Which one do you prefer? - Results (20 votes) Heath Ledger 30% (6 votes) 6 Joaquin Phoenix 70% (14 votes) 14 I prefer Ledgers version since I think he was more of a loose cannon (~~like the face-pencil that came out of nowhere~~), while Phoenixs didnt have that unpredictability (~~like when he put the scissors in his pocket so you know he was gonna kill a person, or when he was rehearsing shooting a gun with a knock knock joke~~). But what do you think? <cite>jblrulez posted [p:928386501] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote> Which one do you prefer? - Results (20 votes) Heath Ledger 30% (6 votes) 6 Joaquin Phoenix 70% (14 votes) 14 I prefer Ledgers version since I think he was more of a loose cannon (like the face-pencil that came out of nowhere), while Phoenixs didnt have that unpredictability (like when he put the scissors in his pocket so you know he was gonna kill a person, or when he was rehearsing shooting a gun with a knock knock joke). But what do you think? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RieTakahash 10/05/19 8:04:42 PM #2:	I really liked Phoenix, i might need another watch to call it though... --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>RieTakahash posted [p:928386566] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>I really liked Phoenix, i might need another watch to call it though...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 10/05/19 8:06:41 PM #3:	Phoenix did a far better job. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:928386648] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>Phoenix did a far better job. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 10/05/19 8:07:41 PM #4:	Hamil, Ramero and Nicholson were all better --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! https://imgtc.com/i/bHqCLJF.png https://i.imgtc.com/YnvkpvU.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:928386685] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>Hamil, Ramero and Nicholson were all better</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxington 10/05/19 8:08:51 PM #5:	I loved both of their takes on Joker, but Phoenix had to carry the whole movie himself, and really sell his descent into madness and taking on the character's mantle, so he gets my vote. --- b-bb-box <cite>boxington posted [p:928386730] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>I loved both of their takes on Joker, but Phoenix had to carry the whole movie himself, and really sell his descent into madness and taking on the character's mantle, so he gets my vote.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/05/19 8:09:07 PM #6:	Steve Miller is still the best Joker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmVusVh4TRQ" data-time=" <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:928386739] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>Steve Miller is still the best Joker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmVusVh4TRQ" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 10/05/19 8:18:00 PM #7:	Questionmarktarius posted... Steve Miller is still the best Joker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmVusVh4TRQ" data-time=" Huh? That's Maurice --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:928387000] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>Steve Miller is still the best Joker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmVusVh4TRQ" data-time="</quote> Huh? That's Maurice</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 10/05/19 8:20:39 PM #8:	I know I am in the minority but I didn't like Ledger Joker. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:928387089] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>I know I am in the minority but I didn't like Ledger Joker.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 10/05/19 8:22:28 PM #9:	Unsugarized_Foo posted... Huh? That's Maurice Only some people call him that. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:928387143] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>Unsugarized_Foo posted...</cite> <quote>Huh? That's Maurice</quote> Only some people call him that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Beveren_Rabbit 10/05/19 8:23:53 PM #10:	Also an honorable mention https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPpWzS3nCwM" data-time=" --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>Beveren_Rabbit posted [p:928387186] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>Also an honorable mention https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPpWzS3nCwM" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Killmonger 10/05/19 8:24:21 PM #11:	Was about to make a similar topic. <cite>Killmonger posted [p:928387199] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>Was about to make a similar topic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 10/05/19 9:35:51 PM #12:	Heath Ledger still takes it imo --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 <cite>Garioshi posted [p:928389566] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>Heath Ledger still takes it imo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 10/05/19 9:36:32 PM #13:	Nicholson --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:928389591] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>Nicholson</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jblrulez 10/05/19 10:33:05 PM #14:	I know there have been many Jokers but I just wanted to focus on these two and not the Romero/Nicholson etc ones. <cite>jblrulez posted [p:928391445] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>I know there have been many Jokers but I just wanted to focus on these two and not the Romero/Nicholson etc ones.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnny_Nutcase 10/05/19 10:37:45 PM #15:	Damn_Underscore posted... Nicholson Damn right --- I've learned that life is one crushing defeat after another... until you just wish Flanders was dead. - Homer Simpson <cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted [p:928391592] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Nicholson</quote> Damn right</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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evil_zombie11 10/05/19 10:40:36 PM #17:	The Jokers are also on different levels of maturity. Ledger goes in as an evolved Joker that's put his time in. Phoenix Joker just started coming together near the end of the movie, he's still an amateur. I'd give it to Ledger as I like seeing full Joker running around. Tbh --- Yo wtf Probably lifting or running... <cite>evil_zombie11 posted [p:928391694] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>The Jokers are also on different levels of maturity. Ledger goes in as an evolved Joker that's put his time in. Phoenix Joker just started coming together near the end of the movie, he's still an amateur. I'd give it to Ledger as I like seeing full Joker running around. Tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxington 10/05/19 10:42:51 PM #18:	jeffhardyb0yz posted... Ledger Phoenix was a character study. Ledger was already fully fleshed out. Recency bias is the only reason Joaquin is winning I'm basing my vote on each actors performance and not just the Joker character --- b-bb-box <cite>boxington posted [p:928391766] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>jeffhardyb0yz posted...</cite> <quote>Ledger Phoenix was a character study. Ledger was already fully fleshed out. Recency bias is the only reason Joaquin is winning</quote> I'm basing my vote on each actors performance and not just the Joker character</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
slmcknett 10/05/19 10:49:42 PM #19:	Ledger played the Joker after years of being the Joker. Phoenix played Arthur Fleck as he tried to find meaning and control in his life. It's two entirely different performances. Not fair to compared them. --- https://imgur.com/1LrhmQE Kari Wahlgren: "Guys, I just can't wrap my mouth around it." <cite>slmcknett posted [p:928391989] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>Ledger played the Joker after years of being the Joker. Phoenix played Arthur Fleck as he tried to find meaning and control in his life. It's two entirely different performances. Not fair to compared them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 10/05/19 10:52:32 PM #20:	Ledger and it's not close --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:928392081] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>Ledger and it's not close</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iron jojo 10/05/19 10:59:10 PM #21:	cjsdowg posted... I know I am in the minority but I didn't like Ledger Joker. Same --- vickfan-chucky they hated Jesus homie chuckyhacks-who teh hell is "jesus homie" <cite>iron jojo posted [p:928392317] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote>I know I am in the minority but I didn't like Ledger Joker.</quote> Same</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 10/05/19 11:15:43 PM #22:	I liked ledger's performance but it's as far from The Joker character as Jessie's Lex Luthor is from that character. I mean, for that matter, none of the rogues in Nolan's trilogy actually felt like comic adaptations except Selina Kyle. Phoenix played a character that, by the time the movie was over, felt like the real Joker. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:928392847] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>I liked ledger's performance but it's as far from The Joker character as Jessie's Lex Luthor is from that character. I mean, for that matter, none of the rogues in Nolan's trilogy actually felt like comic adaptations except Selina Kyle. Phoenix played a character that, by the time the movie was over, felt like the real Joker. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
greatmonkeybaby 10/06/19 12:05:33 AM #23:	Tyranthraxus posted... I liked ledger's performance but it's as far from The Joker character as Jessie's Lex Luthor is from that character. I mean, for that matter, none of the rogues in Nolan's trilogy actually felt like comic adaptations except Selina Kyle. Phoenix played a character that, by the time the movie was over, felt like the real Joker. True --- D press shun <cite>greatmonkeybaby posted [p:928394513] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>I liked ledger's performance but it's as far from The Joker character as Jessie's Lex Luthor is from that character. I mean, for that matter, none of the rogues in Nolan's trilogy actually felt like comic adaptations except Selina Kyle. Phoenix played a character that, by the time the movie was over, felt like the real Joker. </quote> True</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
konokonohamaru 10/06/19 12:08:08 AM #24:	Heath Ledger's Joker is a better villain. Opaque, threatening, unpredictable Joaquin Phoenix's Joker is a better protagonist. Relatable, yet disturbing. Forces the audience to ask hard questions about themselves --- A very happy young man looking forward to a bright and wonderful future. <cite>konokonohamaru posted [p:928394596] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>Heath Ledger's Joker is a better villain. Opaque, threatening, unpredictable Joaquin Phoenix's Joker is a better protagonist. Relatable, yet disturbing. Forces the audience to ask hard questions about themselves</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 10/06/19 12:09:13 AM #25:	Phoenix didnt get very much time to really play full Joker. Once he started doing that ~~interview~~ he showed real promise, but it ended too soon. I feel like comparing them would be like comparing Batman Begins Bale to 89 Keaton. One has to tell a story about how they became that way, and the other is introduced to us fully formed --- https://i.imgtc.com/8ePXf9B.gif If Yamcha would have brought his bat along he'd have blasted Jiren out of the ring like Ness in smash brothers. - Gids_goft <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:928394646] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>Phoenix didnt get very much time to really play full Joker. Once he started doing that interview he showed real promise, but it ended too soon. I feel like comparing them would be like comparing Batman Begins Bale to 89 Keaton. One has to tell a story about how they became that way, and the other is introduced to us fully formed</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
greatmonkeybaby 10/06/19 12:09:28 AM #26:	konokonohamaru posted... Heath Ledger's Joker is a better villain. Opaque, threatening, unpredictable Joaquin Phoenix's Joker is a better protagonist. Relatable, yet disturbing. Forces the audience to ask hard questions about themselves I like that tbh that's true! --- D press shun <cite>greatmonkeybaby posted [p:928394658] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>konokonohamaru posted...</cite> <quote>Heath Ledger's Joker is a better villain. Opaque, threatening, unpredictable Joaquin Phoenix's Joker is a better protagonist. Relatable, yet disturbing. Forces the audience to ask hard questions about themselves</quote> I like that tbh that's true!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SimpleMan 10/06/19 12:38:05 AM #27:	Romero was best. --- Forget your lust for the rich man's gold All that you need is in your soul <cite>SimpleMan posted [p:928395603] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>Romero was best.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vicious_Dios 10/06/19 12:38:55 AM #28:	Mark Hammill. --- S / K / Y / N / E Twitch/YouTube/GT: *Adzeta* <cite>Vicious_Dios posted [p:928395630] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>Mark Hammill.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZeroV2 10/06/19 12:40:43 AM #29:	Phoenix put himself out there in a way that I don't think Ledger did, or perhaps even had the opportunity to. Phoenix's Joker was far more vulnerable and had a lot more to work with as the main protagonist. --- Dean Ambrose is a sick man https://imgur.com/828ozTF https://imgur.com/H71VBEI <cite>ZeroV2 posted [p:928395677] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>Phoenix put himself out there in a way that I don't think Ledger did, or perhaps even had the opportunity to. Phoenix's Joker was far more vulnerable and had a lot more to work with as the main protagonist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WrestlinFan 10/06/19 12:50:14 AM #30:	jeffhardyb0yz posted... Ledger Phoenix was a character study. Ledger was already fully fleshed out. Recency bias is the only reason Joaquin is winning My ass. --- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random <cite>WrestlinFan posted [p:928395994] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>jeffhardyb0yz posted...</cite> <quote>Ledger Phoenix was a character study. Ledger was already fully fleshed out. Recency bias is the only reason Joaquin is winning</quote> My ass.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
konokonohamaru 10/06/19 12:52:37 AM #31:	ZeroV2 posted... Phoenix put himself out there in a way that I don't think Ledger did, or perhaps even had the opportunity to. Phoenix's Joker was far more vulnerable and had a lot more to work with as the main protagonist. Yeah it's just apples and oranges. The way a villain needs to be written and portrayed is completely different than the needs of a protagonist, even if the protagonist is meant to be a bad guy --- A very happy young man looking forward to a bright and wonderful future. <cite>konokonohamaru posted [p:928396066] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>ZeroV2 posted...</cite> <quote>Phoenix put himself out there in a way that I don't think Ledger did, or perhaps even had the opportunity to. Phoenix's Joker was far more vulnerable and had a lot more to work with as the main protagonist.</quote> Yeah it's just apples and oranges. The way a villain needs to be written and portrayed is completely different than the needs of a protagonist, even if the protagonist is meant to be a bad guy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 10/06/19 3:33:25 AM #32:	It's Phoenix who didn't feel like Joker if you ask me. If you take away the face paint what are you left with? --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:928399508] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>It's Phoenix who didn't feel like Joker if you ask me. If you take away the face paint what are you left with?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doctor Foxx 10/06/19 4:15:49 AM #33:	ledbowman posted... It's Phoenix who didn't feel like Joker if you ask me. If you take away the face paint what are you left with? Is Joker only the face paint tho? --- Not a doctor. Shh! <cite>Doctor Foxx posted [p:928400192] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted... </cite> <quote>It's Phoenix who didn't feel like Joker if you ask me. If you take away the face paint what are you left with?</quote>Is Joker only the face paint tho? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kitt 10/06/19 4:18:10 AM #34:	Without even seeing it, I'm gonna go with Phoenix. --- https://i.imgtc.com/4WH1b6j.gif https://i.imgtc.ws/vmNrCuM.gif https://i.imgtc.com/Ti7m7Ts.gif Dancing is Forbidden <cite>Kitt posted [p:928400230] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>Without even seeing it, I'm gonna go with Phoenix. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doctor Foxx 10/06/19 4:25:24 AM #35:	Phoenix was great in this movie I'll go at far as to say this was a better movie than any Marvel film I've seen and I think DC comics are p bad I want to see it again --- Not a doctor. Shh! <cite>Doctor Foxx posted [p:928400333] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>Phoenix was great in this movie I'll go at far as to say this was a better movie than any Marvel film I've seen and I think DC comics are p bad I want to see it again </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 10/06/19 7:47:01 AM #36:	Doctor Foxx posted... ledbowman posted... It's Phoenix who didn't feel like Joker if you ask me. If you take away the face paint what are you left with? Is Joker only the face paint tho? No, that's what i'm saying. Phoenix joker isn't really the joker --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:928402688] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>Doctor Foxx posted...</cite> <quote>ledbowman posted... </cite> <quote>It's Phoenix who didn't feel like Joker if you ask me. If you take away the face paint what are you left with?</quote>Is Joker only the face paint tho? </quote> No, that's what i'm saying. Phoenix joker isn't really the joker</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jblrulez 10/06/19 9:05:43 PM #37:	iron jojo posted... cjsdowg posted... I know I am in the minority but I didn't like Ledger Joker. Same What did you guys think of Phoenixs Joker then? <cite>jblrulez posted [p:928431503] in Joker: Led... [t:78066016]...</cite> <quote>iron jojo posted...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote>I know I am in the minority but I didn't like Ledger Joker.</quote> Same</quote> What did you guys think of Phoenixs Joker then?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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