Poll of the Day > Man JUMPS out of the BUSHES to say HAPPY BIRTHDAY and is SHOT DEAD!!!

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Krow_Incarnate posted...

"Hello? Officer? Someone's knocking at my door!"

Come on, man.

Yeah because just going out and ending whoever is there is the most logical and reasonable thing
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If the person is lunging, it's a pretty appropriate response.

It doesn't sound like he just opened the door and fired.
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Krow_Incarnate posted...

"Hello? Officer? Someone's knocking at my door!"

Come on, man.

You actually can call for that. Could be harassment or something if they dont leave. And something like this was going on in my grandmas neighborhood recently. Someone was going around knocking on peoples door in the middle of the night. Like a lot of people. And did it multiple nights...
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Krow_Incarnate posted...

If the person is lunging, it's a pretty appropriate response.

It doesn't sound like he just opened the door and fired.

Or you know, don't open the door if you can't see who's outside.
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>be me
>be old man
>hear doorbell late at night
>damn Jehover Witnesses
>better get the gun
>*checks peephole*
>huh, no one there?
>*looks out window*
>probably just some damn kids playing DingDongDitch
>OR HOLY SHIT WHAT IF IT'S A GUY WAITING FOR ME TO COME OUT SO HE CAN JUMP ME?
>Better play it safe, just ease outside with the gun, trying to stay steady
>SOMEONE IS JUMPING OUT FROM BEHIND THAT THING AT ME AND YELLING SOMETHING *pow*
>holy shit, I got him! Are there others around?
>wait a minute, that hoodlum looks familiar

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LinkPizza posted...

Were not a family who immediately shoots everyone who comes over.

Neither is his. He's not going to joke around with people acting suddenly and aggressively in the dark though.

LinkPizza posted...

No. But you dont have to also have it immediately ready to shot whoever is at the door. Maybe bring it with you and set it behind the door or something. Its ready, and close by if you need it...

When you answer the door, you're vulnerable.

A burglar who's willing to rob you when you answer the door isn't going to give you the opportunity. The moment the door starts to open, they're ramming that door and rushing you so you can't take risks.

EvilMegas posted...

Call the police. I don't understand why you would even put your life at risk, even with a gun when you could call the cops and let them sort it out.

Got to call the police on the Pizza boy, gotta make sure he knows better than to have a job!

Also with a 30 min emergency response at times, the police is fucking garbage in places for an emergency. You can't rely on an external force to solve all your issues, you need to be capable of keeping yourself alive.

Nichtcrawler X posted...

I can only make assumptions from the law here. Guess that just means it would not be premeditated murder in the US, but it would be here.

Where is "here"? It's not in the US or UK.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Got to call the police on the Pizza boy, gotta make sure he knows better than to have a job!

Also with a 30 min emergency response at times, the police is fucking garbage in places for an emergency. You can't rely on an external force to solve all your issues, you need to be capable of keeping yourself alive.

So instead of waiting for 30 minutes in a sheltered defensive position with a gun for backup, you leave the safety of your home to go outside to face God knows what.

That's dumb. It's really dumb. Like super duper dumb. Some next level shit.
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Also do you have windows where you live?
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Where is "here"? It's not in the US or UK.

The Netherlands. Gun protocol here is separate gun and ammo safes. Then again, guns are explicitly not considered a civilian self-defence tool here.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

When you answer the door, you're vulnerable.

A burglar who's willing to rob you when you answer the door isn't going to give you the opportunity. The moment the door starts to open, they're ramming that door and rushing you so you can't take risks.

Which then means the gun is pointless either way...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Got to call the police on the Pizza boy, gotta make sure he knows better than to have a job!

Also with a 30 min emergency response at times, the police is fucking garbage in places for an emergency. You can't rely on an external force to solve all your issues, you need to be capable of keeping yourself alive.

Yeah. If you dont feel safe, call the police. Doesnt matter if its a pizza boy or not.

And you should still wait for the police. Shoot them if they break in. But not if they are just still waiting outside...
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GastroFan posted...

YahooPoster posted...

Dude shot his gun without even knowing what he was shooting at.

While I don't condone the guy for jumping out of the bushes at 11p.m. (which would scare the h..l out of me), turning and firing on something that you can't see isn't a smart move either. I mean he could have easily hit the air conditioner or a power line with the bullet (depends on where either are located), which would've either started a fire or caused an explosion that would've done a lot of damage

Bullets, powerlines, and air conditioners do not interact in this was.
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EvilMegas posted...

So instead of waiting for 30 minutes in a sheltered defensive position with a gun for backup, you leave the safety of your home to go outside to face God knows what.

Idk about you but I don't have a nuclear bunker in my house, and I'm certainly not jumping in it every time the doorbell goes off.

Evidently he can shoot and stop threats, the gun alone is safety enough.

Nichtcrawler X posted...

The Netherlands. Gun protocol here is separate gun and ammo safes. Then again, guns are explicitly not considered a civilian self-defence tool here.

As I understand it's fairly strict there. In the UK we're also meant to keep your gun in a safe only you have the key for and separate the ammo. We also happen to have a law that you're allowed to use more than necessary to keep yourself safe as long as it's not grievously excessive.

If you happen to have your gun on hand for a legit reason (like killing vermin on a farm), it's reasonable to use it to defend yourself on your land, you just can't torture them.

We had a case of a pensioner stabbing an burglar to death and it was deemed legal.

LinkPizza posted...

Which then means the gun is pointless either way...

If it's in hand you can squeeze off a shot, if you don't you have no chance.

LinkPizza posted...

Yeah. If you dont feel safe, call the police. Doesnt matter if its a pizza boy or not.

And you should still wait for the police. Shoot them if they break in. But not if they are just still waiting outside...

If you call the police every time the wind blows, nobody's going to take you seriously and you're never going to get your packages from Amazon. Neurotic people are entitled to a life too.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

As I understand it's fairly strict there. In the UK we're also meant to keep your gun in a safe only you have the key for and separate the ammo.

Definitely strict compared to say the US. Seperate gun and ammunition safes, which may only be able to be opened by the license holder. If the police shows up for a random check (part of the gun license law) and someone else can open the safe that is not the license holder (say spouse knowing the code), the license is void and the weapons forfeit.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Idk about you but I don't have a nuclear bunker in my house, and I'm certainly not jumping in it every time the doorbell goes off.

Evidently he can shoot and stop threats, the gun alone is safety enough.

All he had to do was call the cops and wait in his locker room in his locked house. Hopefully, be cops arrive before anything happens. And if they do happen to get in, then shoot them...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

If it's in hand you can squeeze off a shot, if you don't you have no chance.

If they literally burst in, firing a random shot could be more dangerous and could injure an innocent person.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

If you call the police every time the wind blows, nobody's going to take you seriously and you're never going to get your packages from Amazon. Neurotic people are entitled to a life too.

Maybe. Maybe not. My moms a police. And every night, they get a call from the same guy. Calls for just everything. But he request a cop car every night. And my mom sends one every night. And shes not the only one. It depends. Any decent cop knows to at least check it out. So, if you have shitty cops that dont do their job properly, then they may not take you seriously. Real cops who do their job will come out. Plus, its a situation where someone is at your door in the middle of the night. Its ok to call the cops. Like I said, there was a person back in my grandmas neighborhood that was going around a bunch of peoples houses different nights knocking on the door. And it was apparently someone dangerous or something. Trying to rob or kill or something. So, calling the cops wouldnt really be bad. Especially if it was a dangerous person instead of his SIL. Because he could have been saving other people...
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LinkPizza posted...

All he had to do was call the cops and wait in his locker room in his locked house. Hopefully, be cops arrive before anything happens. And if they do happen to get in, then shoot them...

So just let people waltz in, jack his shit then get in a gun fight in his own home?

If someone wants to fight, they can die like a dog in the street, not in his house.

LinkPizza posted...

If they literally burst in, firing a random shot could be more dangerous and could injure an innocent person.

How likely do you think somebody would just be walking by in the middle of the night in front of a house getting broken in to? And how likely do you think it will hit them? It's a hell of a lot more likely it'll hit exactly who it should, and in a ram raid it's the only practical means to stop it.

The police won't see the crime occur, you won't see it if you hide, you will lose what you value and they will keep burgling. When you're in a country where guns are available to you, using a gun is what gives you a competitive advantage with criminals, refusing to makes you more vulnerable.

LinkPizza posted...

Maybe. Maybe not. My moms a police. And every night, they get a call from the same guy. Calls for just everything. But he request a cop car every night. And my mom sends one every night. And shes not the only one. It depends. Any decent cop knows to at least check it out. So, if you have shitty cops that dont do their job properly, then they may not take you seriously. Real cops who do their job will come out. Plus, its a situation where someone is at your door in the middle of the night. Its ok to call the cops. Like I said, there was a person back in my grandmas neighborhood that was going around a bunch of peoples houses different nights knocking on the door. And it was apparently someone dangerous or something. Trying to rob or kill or something. So, calling the cops wouldnt really be bad. Especially if it was a dangerous person instead of his SIL. Because he could have been saving other people...

They're not going to be in any hurry if you're calling every night, and if you're about to get rushed, that's exactly what you need.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

So just let people waltz in, jack his shit then get in a gun fight in his own home?

If someone wants to fight, they can die like a dog in the street, not in his house.

I never said that. I dont even know where you got that from. The doors are locked. And if you call the cops, they should be on the way. It actually very dangerous to just open the door to random strangers. Especially since you dont know how many there are or what weapons they have, if any. Its much safer to stay in a locked house and call the cops if youre scared.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

How likely do you think somebody would just be walking by in the middle of the night in front of a house getting broken in to? And how likely do you think it will hit them? It's a hell of a lot more likely it'll hit exactly who it should, and in a ram raid it's the only practical means to stop it.

The police won't see the crime occur, you won't see it if you hide, you will lose what you value and they will keep burgling. When you're in a country where guns are available to you, using a gun is what gives you a competitive advantage with criminals, refusing to makes you more vulnerable.

First of all, it wasnt even that late. Only 11:30pm. Depending on the area, and who lives there, there could be someone whos out. But thats not the only way to hit a random person. Depending on the weapon, it could go into a house nearby. Or even into his own house depending on the position hes in when the trigger gets pulled. So, theres plenty of chance to hit someone. Especially since then walking by at night isnt the only way that someone may accidentally get shot.

And you can use the gun to protect yourself. But if they burst in and knock you over, they could take your weapon. Also, Id rather lose some stuff and still be alive rather than lose some stuff, and also lose my life.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

They're not going to be in any hurry if you're calling every night, and if you're about to get rushed, that's exactly what you need.

And if you explain whats going on, they may rush. Especially if you say theres someone outside your house. Also, thats if this guy calls every night. It doesnt sound like he gets many late night visitors. Its also doesnt sound like he calls the cops all the time, either. He probably couldve called the cops that night and explained someone was outside his house. And they probably wouldve came pretty fast.
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Damn, people out here acting like they deserved to be shot.
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aHappySacka posted...

I have to admit that's some pretty skilled gun-slinging to be so quick on the draw.

LMAO

LinkPizza posted...

First of all, it wasnt even that late. Only 11:30pm.

Midnight. It's the middle of the night. It's not going to be particularly busy.

LinkPizza posted...

Depending on the weapon, it could go into a house nearby. Or even into his own house depending on the position hes in when the trigger gets pulled.

Sure, it could, but a bullet isn't like a bomb, it's not blasting a big fuck off area every time you pull the trigger. I remember a case off an officer and a criminal getting in a gunfight on either side of a double bed and they both completely missed with reloads.

The chance is so painfully low of hitting someone by accident in the middle of the night that's it's not even worth considering.

Also, letting them break in first before you start shooting is guaranteeing you shoot your own house and extending the likelihood they'll have cover and increase the amount of shots fired.

LinkPizza posted...

And you can use the gun to protect yourself. But if they burst in and knock you over, they could take your weapon. Also, Id rather lose some stuff and still be alive rather than lose some stuff, and also lose my life.

They could just shoot you on the floor too. I'd rather risk the slim chance of getting killed by shooting first than letting them sack the place then have a slim chance of getting murdered in my house anyway.

LinkPizza posted...

Also, thats if this guy calls every night. It doesnt sound like he gets many late night visitors. Its also doesnt sound like he calls the cops all the time, either.

He doesn't call the police all the time because he has his gun ready to deal with threats, as he's demonstrated he's perfectly capable of doing.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Midnight. It's the middle of the night. It's not going to be particularly busy.

That depends on where you live. In certain cities, it can be busier. Like if it was a weekend, people can be out later. And if its a town with military, some bases work 24/7. Meaning people could be getting home around that time.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

Sure, it could, but a bullet isn't like a bomb, it's not blasting a big fuck off area every time you pull the trigger. I remember a case off an officer and a criminal getting in a gunfight on either side of a double bed and they both completely missed with reloads.

The chance is so painfully low of hitting someone by accident in the middle of the night that's it's not even worth considering.

Also, letting them break in first before you start shooting is guaranteeing you shoot your own house and extending the likelihood they'll have cover and increase the amount of shots fired.

I dont think the chance is as low as you think. But you can think that if you want...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

They could just shoot you on the floor too. I'd rather risk the slim chance of getting killed by shooting first than letting them sack the place then have a slim chance of getting murdered in my house anyway.

If you dont mind dying, you go right ahead. Id rather not let them shoot me instead. So, you can be reckless and die pretending youre an action hero. Ill hide somewhere and do my best to live for some more years...

Kyuubi4269 posted...

He doesn't call the police all the time because he has his gun ready to deal with threats, as he's demonstrated he's perfectly capable of doing.

Yes. And tearing his family apart, as well. But that means he could have called the cops, an innocent man would still be alive, and his daughter wouldnt hate him. But he had to go answer the door trigger happy instead.
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