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Mead
10/03/19 7:29:14 PM
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https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-china-ukraine-biden-impeach-894329/

And then tweeting this on the same day

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1179840448225054720?s=21

Fucking clown king of bananaland. Open and shut case.
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OniRonin
10/03/19 7:37:12 PM
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should it be illegal for a president to investigate his predecessor
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Mead
10/03/19 7:39:12 PM
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OniRonin posted...
should it be illegal for a president to investigate his predecessor


It should be illegal for them to ask a foreign country to dig up dirt on a political opponent and interfere with our election

If he wants an investigation done he has literally the entire justice department and the CIA at his disposal
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OniRonin
10/03/19 7:40:43 PM
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Mead posted...
OniRonin posted...
should it be illegal for a president to investigate his predecessor


It should be illegal for them to ask a foreign country to dig up dirt on a political opponent and interfere with our election

If he wants an investigation done he has literally the entire justice department and the CIA at his disposal

so if president biden asks russia to investigate whether trump colluded with someone in their government

that should be illegal
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papercup
10/03/19 7:43:29 PM
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Just a year ago he was accusing them of meddling against him
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45656466
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Mead
10/03/19 7:46:59 PM
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OniRonin posted...
Mead posted...
OniRonin posted...
should it be illegal for a president to investigate his predecessor


It should be illegal for them to ask a foreign country to dig up dirt on a political opponent and interfere with our election

If he wants an investigation done he has literally the entire justice department and the CIA at his disposal

so if president biden asks russia to investigate whether trump colluded with someone in their government

that should be illegal
?


Absolutely

If he wanted to ask someone to investigate that there are official US channels to do so
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OniRonin
10/03/19 7:48:26 PM
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Mead posted...
OniRonin posted...
Mead posted...
OniRonin posted...
should it be illegal for a president to investigate his predecessor


It should be illegal for them to ask a foreign country to dig up dirt on a political opponent and interfere with our election

If he wants an investigation done he has literally the entire justice department and the CIA at his disposal

so if president biden asks russia to investigate whether trump colluded with someone in their government

that should be illegal
?


Absolutely

If he wanted to ask someone to investigate that there are official US channels to do so


so the problem here is that trump is asking ukraine to investigate him directly, instead of directing the cia to ask them
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Mead
10/03/19 7:49:43 PM
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OniRonin posted...
Mead posted...
OniRonin posted...
Mead posted...
OniRonin posted...
should it be illegal for a president to investigate his predecessor


It should be illegal for them to ask a foreign country to dig up dirt on a political opponent and interfere with our election

If he wants an investigation done he has literally the entire justice department and the CIA at his disposal

so if president biden asks russia to investigate whether trump colluded with someone in their government

that should be illegal
?


Absolutely

If he wanted to ask someone to investigate that there are official US channels to do so


so the problem here is that trump is asking ukraine to investigate him directly, instead of directing the cia to ask them


Thats part of it, but he also implied that investigating Biden would be a favor in exchange for the military aid money that he was withholding, that congress had already approved
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OniRonin
10/03/19 7:52:04 PM
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when is it ok for the president to withhold financial aid from a country? never?
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Mead
10/03/19 7:54:48 PM
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OniRonin posted...
when is it ok for the president to withhold financial aid from a country? never?


Im not sure if there are specifically any rules or laws that address that tbh
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OniRonin
10/03/19 8:00:12 PM
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Cacciato
10/03/19 8:01:28 PM
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OniRonin posted...
ok then

Why do you keep asking questions like you secretly have the answers
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OniRonin
10/03/19 8:10:29 PM
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Cacciato posted...
OniRonin posted...
ok then

Why do you keep asking questions like you secretly have the answers

what answers. "should it be illegal to do X" is a subjective questions.
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PKMNsony
10/03/19 8:20:16 PM
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eLeCtIoN mEdDlInG1!11!
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GanonsSpirit
10/03/19 8:40:28 PM
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OniRonin posted...
when is it ok for the president to withhold financial aid from a country? never?

When it's not in exchange for personal favors?
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hypnox
10/03/19 8:43:42 PM
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I bet it's a ploy to separate the request on the call from the fact he was withholding aid until he got it.
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Blighboy
10/03/19 8:55:12 PM
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OniRonin posted...
when is it ok for the president to withhold financial aid from a country? never?

When it's not for personal gain.

These are really easy to answer when you're not asking them in bad faith.

Donald Trump cannot distinguish the office from himself. He does not see the issue in abusing his own position to benefit himself personally at the expense of other Americans. If you cannot see the issue either, that reflects poorly on you.
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rjsilverthorn
10/03/19 9:10:03 PM
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Blighboy posted...
OniRonin posted...
when is it ok for the president to withhold financial aid from a country? never?

When it's not for personal gain.

These are really easy to answer when you're not asking them in bad faith.

Donald Trump cannot distinguish the office from himself. He does not see the issue in abusing his own position to benefit himself personally at the expense of other Americans. If you cannot see the issue either, that reflects poorly on you.


The fact that he involved Giuliani doesn't help. Giuliani is his personal attorney and holds no government position so he has no place being involved in any official investigation. It is also strange that he only decided to investigate this 'possible corruption' after Biden became the leading Democratic contender.
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Blighboy
10/03/19 9:12:02 PM
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rjsilverthorn posted...
The fact that he involved Giuliani doesn't help. Giuliani is his personal attorney and holds no government position so he has no place being involved in any official investigation. It is also strange that he only decided to investigate this 'possible corruption' after Biden became the leading Democratic contender.

He must have inherited all of Hillary's crimes, which mysteriously disappeared once she stopped being a contender.
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OniRonin
10/03/19 9:16:01 PM
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Blighboy posted...
When it's not for personal gain.

im a little skeptical that you can fully understand the reasons why trump does something. the guy only watches fox news; it's totally plausible to me that he thinks an investigation of joe biden is beneficial to american interests
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Blighboy
10/03/19 9:20:52 PM
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OniRonin posted...
im a little skeptical that you can fully understand the reasons why trump does something.

Don't worry, I watch Rick & Morty.
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rjsilverthorn
10/03/19 9:21:12 PM
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OniRonin posted...
Blighboy posted...
When it's not for personal gain.

im a little skeptical that you can fully understand the reasons why trump does something. the guy only watches fox news; it's totally plausible to me that he thinks an investigation of joe biden is beneficial to american interests

Yet he waited until now to start the investigation despite the job in question being back in 2014. It was already investigated once during the Obama administration so its not like it was a big secret that he just found out about.
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OniRonin
10/03/19 9:22:50 PM
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rjsilverthorn posted...
OniRonin posted...
Blighboy posted...
When it's not for personal gain.

im a little skeptical that you can fully understand the reasons why trump does something. the guy only watches fox news; it's totally plausible to me that he thinks an investigation of joe biden is beneficial to american interests

Yet he waited until now to start the investigation despite the job in question being back in 2014. It was already investigated once during the Obama administration so its not like it was a big secret that he just found out about.


he didn't know about it before dude. fox news just started talking about it. you seem to be operating under the assumption that trump stays abreast of current events lmao
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papercup
10/03/19 9:27:15 PM
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Blighboy posted...
OniRonin posted...
im a little skeptical that you can fully understand the reasons why trump does something.

Don't worry, I watch Rick & Morty.


A fellow genius I see.
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GanonsSpirit
10/03/19 9:47:39 PM
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I see OniRonin is going with the classic "Trump is too dumb to do anything illegal" defense.
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Mead
10/03/19 9:58:26 PM
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Looks like he asked China for dirt on Biden and Warren

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/03/politics/trump-biden-call-xi-secure-server/index.html
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SunWuKung420
10/03/19 10:20:37 PM
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Mead posted...
OniRonin posted...
should it be illegal for a president to investigate his predecessor


It should be illegal for them to ask a foreign country to dig up dirt on a political opponent and interfere with our election

If he wants an investigation done he has literally the entire justice department and the CIA at his disposal


The FBI conducts US investigations.
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Zareth
10/03/19 11:13:56 PM
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Trump doesn't need to dig up dirt on Biden to hurt his image, Biden is perfectly capable of doing that himself.
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Aaantlion
10/03/19 11:21:00 PM
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Your source is the Rolling Stone, which previously reported outright fraudulent stories including fake rape cases and, even after they got busted for it and admitted what they did, nobody was fired or saw any repercussions.
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Lil69Leo
10/03/19 11:22:12 PM
#30:


Mead posted...
OniRonin posted...
should it be illegal for a president to investigate his predecessor


It should be illegal for them to ask a foreign country to dig up dirt on a political opponent and interfere with our election

If he wants an investigation done he has literally the entire justice department and the CIA at his disposal


Pretty sure it is.
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Mead
10/03/19 11:30:57 PM
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Aaantlion posted...
Your source is the Rolling Stone, which previously reported outright fraudulent stories including fake rape cases and, even after they got busted for it and admitted what they did, nobody was fired or saw any repercussions.


He said it on live fucking television dude

You can watch the video

Why do you even post
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Mead
10/03/19 11:32:55 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Q67tAUiMg" data-time="


@Aaantlion

Maybe youll believe what this orange sack of shit says directly
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Blighboy
10/03/19 11:37:29 PM
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I look at Putin and Xi defenders and I just feel sorry for Trump. His fanbase isn't nearly as good at lying and deflecting as those of other cult leaders.
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Aaantlion
10/03/19 11:44:18 PM
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Mead posted...
Why do you even post


Why do you even post if you're going to link to shit from Rolling Stone and constantly post content from knowingly disreputable news outlets? And if you're actually getting your "news" from places like Rolling Stone, then that's all the worse.
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Cacciato
10/03/19 11:45:01 PM
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Aaantlion posted...
Mead posted...
Why do you even post


Why do you even post if you're going to link to shit from Rolling Stone and constantly post content from knowingly disreputable news outlets?

But what about the other video
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Aaantlion
10/03/19 11:45:53 PM
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Then why would he post something from Rolling Stone?
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Mead
10/03/19 11:46:18 PM
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Cacciato posted...
Aaantlion posted...
Mead posted...
Why do you even post


Why do you even post if you're going to link to shit from Rolling Stone and constantly post content from knowingly disreputable news outlets?

But what about the other video


Hes working on a rebuttal, tune in next week to hear it
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Aaantlion
10/03/19 11:47:50 PM
#38:


Mead posted...
Cacciato posted...
Aaantlion posted...
Mead posted...
Why do you even post


Why do you even post if you're going to link to shit from Rolling Stone and constantly post content from knowingly disreputable news outlets?

But what about the other video


Hes working on a rebuttal, tune in next week to hear it


Why do you even troll?
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Mead
10/03/19 11:48:43 PM
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Aaantlion posted...
Then why would he post something from Rolling Stone?


This might be the most pathetic diversion attempt Ive seen on this board

If the rolling stone is such a joke it should be really easy for you to post some actual evidence that the video you refuse to acknowledge is somehow not real
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Cacciato
10/03/19 11:49:10 PM
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Aaantlion posted...
Then why would he post something from Rolling Stone?

So you dont have anything to say about the video?
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Mead
10/03/19 11:49:48 PM
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Aaantlion posted...
Mead posted...
Cacciato posted...
Aaantlion posted...
Mead posted...
Why do you even post


Why do you even post if you're going to link to shit from Rolling Stone and constantly post content from knowingly disreputable news outlets?

But what about the other video


Hes working on a rebuttal, tune in next week to hear it


Why do you even troll?


Look at this topic. Its absolute backwards bananaland logic to say I am the one trolling here
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Aaantlion
10/03/19 11:49:50 PM
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Mead posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1Q67tAUiMg" data-time="


@ Aaantlion

Maybe youll believe what this orange sack of shit says directly


lolwut? That's what you consider meddling? TIL: Mead thinks politicians shouldn't be investigated over corruption allegations.
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Aaantlion
10/03/19 11:51:46 PM
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Mead posted...
Look at this topic. Its absolute backwards bananaland logic to say I am the one trolling here


You literally started by quoting a news outlet that admitted its reporting was wholly fraudulent yet did nothing to correct the issue then posted a link that moves the goalposts to another stadium. Want to try again?

Not to mention you keep using troll-friendly terms to bypass moderator issues.
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Mead
10/03/19 11:55:26 PM
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Aaantlion posted...
Not to mention you keep using troll-friendly terms to bypass moderator issues.


The fuck does this even mean

Aaantlion posted...
You literally started by quoting a news outlet that admitted its reporting was wholly fraudulent yet did nothing to correct the issue then posted a link that moves the goalposts to another stadium. Want to try again?


If you cant even attempt to discredit the article maybe you should just go away cause youre just further embarrassing yourself since you cant acknowledge the actual video
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gguirao
10/04/19 3:31:32 AM
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I'm enjoying the continued self-destruction of this pathetic sham of a presidency.
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BlackScythe0
10/04/19 5:19:09 AM
#47:


OniRonin posted...
Mead posted...
OniRonin posted...
Mead posted...
OniRonin posted...
should it be illegal for a president to investigate his predecessor


It should be illegal for them to ask a foreign country to dig up dirt on a political opponent and interfere with our election

If he wants an investigation done he has literally the entire justice department and the CIA at his disposal

so if president biden asks russia to investigate whether trump colluded with someone in their government

that should be illegal
?


Absolutely

If he wanted to ask someone to investigate that there are official US channels to do so


so the problem here is that trump is asking ukraine to investigate him directly, instead of directing the cia to ask them


You're trying to make this difficult by feigning ignorance.

Yea that is part of the problem. The biggest part of the problem is hiding it. It's not his job to ask foreign nations to investigate someone as a favor in exchange for getting the already approved funding they need to continue existing against Russian aggression.

If this had gone the way Trump wanted it Ukraine would have opened an investigation and we would have had thought there was a reason for it. I'm the sort of person who believes there is a reason for everything and would have thought that it was likely Biden had done something wrong because I don't have a high impression of career politicians.

And now that he got outed because we luckily still have enough patriots in government who care about the nation it doesn't make it any better for him to just bluntly state he wants other nations to fabricate an investigation over a false conspiracy theory in the open.

If there was a valid reason for the investigation our agencies could open an investigation and communicate with the appropriate counterparts on other nations to gather information on the allegations. But the allegations are bull shit, everyone knows it. What I don't know is if no one was willing to open an investigation because it was bull shit or if Trump wanted to hide it all along because he treats being president like being a mob boss.

Either way Trump has ruined his chances even if the senate doesn't vote to convict him this is worse than water gate and he isn't coming out unscathed.
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GanonsSpirit
10/04/19 6:44:35 AM
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Ok, Trump literally said those things, but what about Rolling Stone, guys?
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YahooPoster
10/04/19 7:02:57 AM
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This is worse than Watergate. The hits keep coming.
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myghostisdead
10/04/19 7:15:19 AM
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Trump just can't keep his mouth shut. It is like watching a train wreck in slow motion.

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Locke90
10/04/19 8:05:37 AM
#51:


Mead posted...
OniRonin posted...
should it be illegal for a president to investigate his predecessor


It should be illegal for them to ask a foreign country to dig up dirt on a political opponent and interfere with our election

If he wants an investigation done he has literally the entire justice department and the CIA at his disposal

Except biden did interfere in an investigation that involved his son.
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