Current Events > Fresh, Wholesome, Healthy, and Tasty Meals are usually an economic Privilege --

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Rich people literally need to hire professional chefs -- who spend their entire work week to prepare their meals .

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You dont need to be rich not to eat like shit.

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The Admiral posted...

You dont need to be rich not to eat like shit.

No, you don't have to be rich. But you'll need to spend at least 30 hours per week to procure and prepare the materials needed to create meals that are healthy, wholesome, TASTY, and fresh.
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lydiaquayle posted...

No, you don't have to be rich. But you'll need to spend at least 30 hours per week to procure and prepare the materials needed to create meals that are healthy, wholesome, TASTY, and fresh.

Wut

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lydiaquayle posted...

The Admiral posted...

You dont need to be rich not to eat like shit.

No, you don't have to be rich. But you'll need to spend at least 30 hours per week to procure and prepare the materials needed to create meals that are healthy, wholesome, TASTY, and fresh.

I'll agree that proper food prep takes a while, probably a prohibitively long time for some, but 30 hours a WEEK? Even my longest estimate is way shorter than that.
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marthsheretoo posted...

I'll agree that proper food prep takes a while, probably a prohibitively long time for some, but 30 hours a WEEK? Even my longest estimate is way shorter than that.

I don't considered grilled chicken sandwiches to be tasty, filling, and wholesome.
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lydiaquayle posted...

I don't considered grilled chicken sandwiches to be tasty, filling, and wholesome.

Let's assume 2 hours of food prep on average (way more than any reasonable average). Since most things that take 2 hours involve waiting for things to cook, we can do most of our cleanup during that time. Then half an hour of cleanup at the end.

17.5 hours.

Add in a grocery run. Actually, make it two so your ingredients are super fresh. Assume you're a super slow shopper so it takes 2 hours per trip. And you live half an hour away from the grocery store, so 2 hours total driving time.

23.5 hours.

And you're also super indecisive so it takes you a full hour to plan a week of meals.

We're still under 25 hours and we've taken a ludicrously long time at every step of the process.
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marthsheretoo posted...

Let's assume 2 hours of food prep on average (way more than any reasonable average). Since most things that take 2 hours involve waiting for things to cook, we can do most of our cleanup during that time. Then half an hour of cleanup at the end.

17.5 hours.

Add in a grocery run. Actually, make it two so your ingredients are super fresh. Assume you're a super slow shopper so it takes 2 hours per trip. And you live half an hour away from the grocery store, so 2 hours total driving time.

23.5 hours.

And you're also super indecisive so it takes you a full hour to plan a week of meals.

We're still under 25 hours and we've taken a ludicrously long time at every step of the process.

This is if you buy the same exact shit in mass quantities every week or month. The problem is that you want fresh and varied as well. Having to eat teriyaki grilled chicken every few days would suck.
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I dunno, I just order one of those meal kit services and it's hardly a stretch on my time or budget (I just bounce around between them all using the promotional pricing). I get the 3 meal kits with 2 servings each and they take like an hour to cook at most and because I'm #foreveralone, I save half and get two feedings out of each one I cook (usually pick ones that make for decent leftovers)

Any other meals, I do low effort stuff like a sandwich, fruit/veggie plate, canned soup/stew, frozen pizza etc, or end up eating out (usually limit myself to 2-3 times a week going out)
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lydiaquayle posted...

This is if you buy the same exact s*** in mass quantities every week or month. The problem is that you want fresh and varied as well. Having to eat teriyaki grilled chicken every few days would suck.

Uh no, this is for a different meal every day of the week, and there's nothing stopping you from picking all different meals the next weeks either. How does going to the grocery store TWICE A WEEK mean buying the same stuff in bulk quantities? You're being silly.

Also I ran out of planned meals yesterday and didn't want to go shopping today so I'm cooking up some dal with just random stuff I had lying around. Like, it's cooking while I respond. Delicious, healthy, cheap, and the ingredients keep well.
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Pitlord_Special posted...

Any other meals, I do low effort stuff like a sandwich, fruit/veggie plate, canned soup/stew, frozen pizza etc, or end up eating out (usually limit myself to 2-3 times a week going out)

Yeah, that's not tasty.
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marthsheretoo posted...

Also I ran out of planned meals yesterday and didn't want to go shopping today so I'm cooking up some dal with just random stuff I had lying around.

That definitely won't be as good-tasting as it should be .
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lydiaquayle posted...

marthsheretoo posted...

Also I ran out of planned meals yesterday and didn't want to go shopping today so I'm cooking up some dal with just random stuff I had lying around.

That definitely won't be as good-tasting as it should be .

It was really good, is there some platonic ideal of dal I'm supposed to be comparing it to so I can be disappointed by it?

I honestly like my recipe more than any restaurant dal I've had.
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marthsheretoo posted...

It was really good, is there some platonic ideal of dal I'm supposed to be comparing it to so I can be disappointed by it?

I honestly like my recipe more than any restaurant dal I've had.

Pretty much the food that's shown in the video.
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So now we've gone from "fresh, wholesome, healthy, tasty meals are an economic privilege" to "affording a professional chef is an economic privilege."

Which, like... yeah, sure.
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"fresh" is the big economic factor here imo. you really have to plan your meals to make that part work

not sure what is meant by "wholesome" -- seems kinda vague

but it's not that hard to make things that are both tasty and nutritious. a bag of frozen vegetables can go a long way with the right herbs and spices
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averagejoel posted...

but it's not that hard to make things that are both tasty and nutritious. a bag of frozen vegetables can go a long way with the right herbs and spices

I've never been able to prepare, or eat with a person who has ever cooked a bag of frozen vegetables to taste the same or better as I could get from a 2-star restaurant.
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averagejoel posted...

not sure what is meant by "wholesome" -- seems kinda vague

Something that gives the same texture as filling bread or grains, but without the gluten-heavy carbs that come with such heavy grains.
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fan357 posted...

lydiaquayle posted...

No, you don't have to be rich. But you'll need to spend at least 30 hours per week to procure and prepare the materials needed to create meals that are healthy, wholesome, TASTY, and fresh.

Wut

Poorer people work longer hours so they don't always have the time or energy to prepare fresh food. Fresh food goes bad fast so it isn't always the best affordable option.
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Complete nonsense. I cook healthy, nutritious, tasty fresh food in about 7 hours a week. People exaggerate how difficult it is so that they have a better excuse not to do it. I have the 'privilege' of severe food allergies that don't give me that freedom.

lydiaquayle posted...

averagejoel posted...

but it's not that hard to make things that are both tasty and nutritious. a bag of frozen vegetables can go a long way with the right herbs and spices

I've never been able to prepare, or eat with a person who has ever cooked a bag of frozen vegetables to taste the same or better as I could get from a 2-star restaurant.

I don't care if this is true or not. the fact is, if you get the right herbs and spices in the mix and you have some basic competence in the kitchen, you can make a good-tasting meal using frozen vegetables.

restaurants are a completely different thing, and it's unfair to use them as the benchmark for whether or not something is "tasty", especially when it's such a subjective term
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Eating anything but Pop Tarts is reserved for Chad.
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Why the hell are you here and not the politics board?
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Is this BBT still going on about the willpower thing

The way that topic went must've really upset you
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averagejoel posted...

restaurants are a completely different thing, and it's unfair to use them as the benchmark for whether or not something is "tasty", especially when it's such a subjective term

There's a reason why more and more people are opting for the convenience of eating at a restaurant, rather than cooking at home.

People want something fresh and tasteful. And you'll never be able to dress up frozen vegetables to match what you can get at a decent restaurant.
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Poor ass gym bros can meal prep a week's worth of healthy, nutritionally balanced meals in like 2 hours.

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s0nicfan posted...

Poor ass gym bros can meal prep a week's worth of healthy, nutritionally balanced meals in like 2 hours.

Would you buy a boxed meal mass-prepared 7 days ago at the supermarket? The greens will have already wilted, and they'll taste like shit.
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lydiaquayle posted...

Would you buy a meal prepared 7 days ago at the supermarket?

Of course.

You're describing a fresher version of the entire frozen section.

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^ No fucking thanks.
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If you can't cook and do something else during downtime you're doing time economy all wrong
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lydiaquayle posted...

^ No fucking thanks.

If you're that upset at the idea, you can take things more likely to go bad and slap-chop them into a salsa. The citrus will keep the flavor longer.

There's a million ways to do it right and cheap, but at this point it's obvious you're trolling.

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s0nicfan posted...

If you're that upset at the idea, you can take things more likely to go bad and slap-chop them into a salsa. The citrus will keep the flavor longer.

There's a million ways to do it right and cheap, but at this point it's obvious you're trolling.

I've stored freshly made salsa. Without preservatives, it loses its freshness and flavor after 3 days.
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lydiaquayle posted...

s0nicfan posted...

If you're that upset at the idea, you can take things more likely to go bad and slap-chop them into a salsa. The citrus will keep the flavor longer.

There's a million ways to do it right and cheap, but at this point it's obvious you're trolling.

I've stored freshly made salsa. Without preservatives, it loses its freshness and flavor after 3 days.

Citrus is a preservative tho
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lydiaquayle posted...

averagejoel posted...

restaurants are a completely different thing, and it's unfair to use them as the benchmark for whether or not something is "tasty", especially when it's such a subjective term

There's a reason why more and more people are opting for the convenience of eating at a restaurant, rather than cooking at home.

People want something fresh and tasteful. And you'll never be able to dress up frozen vegetables to match what you can get at a decent restaurant.

in the future, please try listening to what I (and other people) say and engaging with it, rather than dismissing it outright.

I don't even disagree with the premise of the topic as stated in the title, but for the rest of it you're full of shit
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MC_BatCommander posted...

Citrus is a preservative tho

Not enough, and too sour after a while.
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lydiaquayle posted...

MC_BatCommander posted...

Citrus is a preservative tho

Not enough, and too sour after a while.

So don't keep food for longer than a few days?
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If you're lazy just get those salad kits at the supermarket, they have seasoning and they're like $3 tops

Rexdragon125 posted...

If you're lazy just get those salad kits at the supermarket, they have seasoning and they're like $3 tops

THey taste quite crappy.
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lydiaquayle posted...

Rexdragon125 posted...

If you're lazy just get those salad kits at the supermarket, they have seasoning and they're like $3 tops

THey taste quite crappy.

It's fuckin salad dude it tastes fine
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TC is right. Have yall seen what a "complete breakfast" is supposed to look like?
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MC_BatCommander posted...

It's fuckin salad dude it tastes fine

Read the fucking TC again.

I'm looking for a VARIETY of meals that are--

FRESH (like it was just cooked)
TASTY (that you can get from 2-star restaurants or higher)
WHOLESOME (fills you up so that you're both satisfied and energetic)
HEALTHY (lean proteins, small amounts of gluten, less bad sugars and carbs, and ZERO trans-fats).

If you can't fulfill all four of these, then you're just trolling in this topic.
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lydiaquayle posted...

If you can't fulfill all four of these, then you're just trolling in this topic.

You're the one who can't fulfill these, I'm having no problem
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MC_BatCommander posted...

You're the one who can't fulfill these, I'm having no problem

5-day old salsa is not fresh.
And you'll get sick of eating salsa after only 3 days in a row. Plus, you'll prolly get ulcers eating so much acid every day.
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lydiaquayle posted...

MC_BatCommander posted...

You're the one who can't fulfill these, I'm having no problem

5-day old salsa is not fresh.
And you'll get sick of eating salsa after only 3 days in a row. Plus, you'll prolly get ulcers eating so much acid every day.

So don't eat salsa every day
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So TC wants a professional chef without paying for one...

Rexdragon125 posted...

So TC wants a professional chef without paying for one...

Pretty much, too lazy to make his own food
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lydiaquayle posted...

TASTY (that you can get from 2-star restaurants or higher)

this is an awful way to define tasty
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More like you wanting. Fancy ass shit is a privilege. It's crazy how much lavish shit you guys want without paying for it.
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