Current Events > I thought the 4 Avengers' stories were unceremoniously ended. MCU Spoilers.

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So at the end of the avengers endgame, what do we have? Iron Man dead, Thor fat and lazy and basically the russo brothers showing just how much they hate him, captain america selfishly staying back in time to be with his one time crush during war, completely erasing the guy she actually did marry and the family tree that extends from there, like the niece he was also weirdly romantical with.

Ironically Hulk is the only one doesn't have a completely shitty ending, though we don't actually get to see the journey of human hulk and green hulk reconciling to become one Hulk. Still it was nice and the taco scene was one of the saving graces of the movie.

But yeah that was not a great sendoff to the starting Avengers members was it? I mean... was it?
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... Thor joined the Guardians of the Galaxy.
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Iron Man sacrificed his life to save the whole of reality. Not sure what kind of exit would be more heroic than that.

Thor had a realistic spiral into depression. Keep in mind that the events of Ragnarok and Infinity War happen in like three days. In three days, he lost his dad, his hammer, his home, half his people, his brother, half his people again, and then killing Thanos was a complete nothing. He then finds that he's still worthy and manages to help bring back all the people that were lost. Fine story arc. He's going to be in more movies, so this isn't a send-off for him anyway.

Captain America is entitled to a little selfishness at this point. Due to the way time travel works in Endgame, he didn't erase anyone from existence. He just created a new branching timeline.
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She was always married with Captain America.
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Foppe posted...

She was always married with Captain America.

Thats not how time travel works.

Also TC this is some of the laziest and misguided criticism Ive seen
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Apparently she is, that was always captain america that she married. I thought it was the partially crippled guy from Agent Carter, there seemed to be a budding romance there and I may have read he was intended to be the husband but I guess not.
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Just ignore whatever dumb shit the directors or writers said outside of the movie

The movie establishes that he didn't interfere with his own timeline at all, he went to what is essentially a parallel universe and pegged that Peggy.
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Thor's story hasn't ended yet.
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The Russos confirmed that Cap's timeline is a totally different timeline. No, she didn't always marry Cap. She married some other dude in the current MCU and she got with Cap in an alternate timeline.

lol dawg im sorry but all your points are wrong and dumb

flopic

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Bryfang posted...

The directors and the screenwriters have different opinions on it.

The directors think that Cap just made a new timeline, the screenwriters on the other hand feel it was always Cap that was Peggy's husband (which really makes that makeout scene weird).

The director's explanation is the one that makes sense given the context of the film, but if the writers want something, it's really easy to make it happen.

No, the writers said that was their intention, but time travel loopholes don't really work with it.

It's just in their mind, but ultimately the directors trump the screenwriters imo.

Much like the AoU people had no intention of Cap pretending to not pick up Mjolnir, but now the Russo's have said he did pretend.

The Russos obviously hate Thor is the worst thought process in existence considering he was arguably the main hero of Infinity War, treated as a total monster in that movie and they clearly made him the strongest Avenger, and gave him THE centerpiece Avengers moment in the movie, and honestly, are the only directors to treat Thor as the epic and powerful god hes supposed to be (Taika being a close second, but Whedon and whomstever made Thor 1 and 2 had no idea how to portray Thors powers).

Theyve even clearly stated IWs story revolved around Thor. Endgame was about Cap and Ironman since theyre the ones leaving the MCU. Were getting more Thor, he didnt need a farewell tour.

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2SweetforTurtle posted...

The Russos obviously hate Thor is the worst thought process in existence considering he was arguably the main hero of Infinity War, treated as a total monster in that movie and they clearly made him the strongest Avenger, and gave him THE centerpiece Avengers moment in the movie, and honestly, are the only directors to treat Thor as the epic and powerful god hes supposed to be (Taika being a close second, but Whedon and whomstever made Thor 1 and 2 had no idea how to portray Thors powers).

Thor 1 had Thor as an epic powerhouse. Avengers and Avengers 2 had him as the secret weapon. He always had respect there.

Taika shit on Thor and Loki for the most part.

Russos did too, just in roundabout ways. Like they gave Thor the Nidavellir thing but also reverted him back to needing a weapon. But IW wasn't terrible for him. Endgame was an abomination of everything Thor stands for though. And it's not a realistic spiral into depression at all for one of Thor's character and with his traits.
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