Current Events > honestly is there even a point to life if ur not rich

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Rexdragon125 posted...

Nothing will matter when climate change makes growing crops impossible in a couple decades

rip
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Rexdragon125 posted...

Nothing will matter when climate change makes growing crops impossible in a couple decades

our food will be all synthetic by then.

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and yea guys im well aware that this topic is literally just me whining. im having a bad week and i just wanted to complain
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Pukelid posted...

and yea guys im well aware that this topic is literally just me whining. im having a bad week and i just wanted to complain

Good luck then. Hope it gets better and you find a way to make more money to address your issues.

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Pukelid posted...

and yea guys im well aware that this topic is literally just me whining. im having a bad week and i just wanted to complain

I feel you bro, this is me all the time, you just have to turn your frustration into motivation. no one is gonna get you out of being broke except you

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Trickfinger posted...

I feel you bro, this is me all the time, you just have to turn your frustration into motivation. no one is gonna get you out of being broke except you

This.

And it helps if you have some sort of plan vs hoping good things come to good people.

I started out on effectively less than $10 an hour and it was a tough slog... I remember even just rice with sauce or skipping Ness to stretch my dollars further and save up/invest in my studies/etc.

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Sure. Money isn't even important to happiness.
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Knowledge_King posted...

Sure. Money isn't even important to happiness.

What kind of money problems have you dealt with in your life

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I honestly can't even find things to spend my money on, so I just dump it into retirement and investments.

And I don't even remotely make what the rich folks make.

I still remember making $8/hr at Macy's just 10 years ago.
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there's not a point to life either way

Pukelid posted...

i don't want to hear about how money isn't everything. money would solve literally every problem in my life.

If none of your problems concern companionship and mental health then sure, I guess it would
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AwesomeToTheMAX posted...

Pukelid posted...

i don't want to hear about how money isn't everything. money would solve literally every problem in my life.

If none of your problems concern companionship and mental health then sure, I guess it would

Money can get you the former at least

DarthAragorn posted...

there's not a point to life either way

It's to leave behind something after you die.
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If someone's only invested in you solely because you have money, they're not a companion. They have zero interest in you as a person and will disappear the moment you fall on hard times
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Trickfinger posted...

It's to leave behind something after you die.

Well, I plan on taking everything with me when I go

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AwesomeToTheMAX posted...

If someone's only invested in you solely because you have money, they're not a companion. They have zero interest in you as a person and will disappear the moment you fall on hard times

if someone is struggling with money at a certain age that's a turn off. people that are successful are attractive in every facet.

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Trickfinger posted...

AwesomeToTheMAX posted...

If someone's only invested in you solely because you have money, they're not a companion. They have zero interest in you as a person and will disappear the moment you fall on hard times

if someone is struggling with money at a certain age that's a turn off. people that are successful are attractive in every facet.

That's cool and all but not everyone is perfect and people don't live perfect lives. People lose jobs. People have things they don't expect happen to them

Would you break up with your S/O the moment she got laid off?
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AwesomeToTheMAX posted...

Trickfinger posted...

AwesomeToTheMAX posted...

If someone's only invested in you solely because you have money, they're not a companion. They have zero interest in you as a person and will disappear the moment you fall on hard times

if someone is struggling with money at a certain age that's a turn off. people that are successful are attractive in every facet.

That's cool and all but not everyone is perfect and people don't live perfect lives. People lose jobs. People have things they don't expect happen to them

Would you break up with your S/O the moment she got laid off?

The fuck are you talking about I didn't say everybody had to be perfect
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AwesomeToTheMAX posted...

Would you break up with your S/O the moment she got laid off?

And this is a dumb examples as I clearly just gave you a scenario where somebody is at a certain age and struggling with money not that they suddenly lost their source of income
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You said people running into financial problems is a turn off. I'm telling you there are completely valid reasons why that could happen
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OK.
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Of course there is.

Theres just no real freedom for anyone but the super rich. Ya just gotta enjoy life when ya can.
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My life sucks :(
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AwesomeToTheMAX posted...

Pukelid posted...

i don't want to hear about how money isn't everything. money would solve literally every problem in my life.

If none of your problems concern companionship and mental health then sure, I guess it would

It makes getting a worthwhile companion exponentially easier when you arent having money problems.

Hell it even lets people get better health care.

Its not everything but having a nice home and some toys and not having to work 40 plus hours a week would be amazing.
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imagine being past college age, and broke af, and thinking you're a viable partner

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That's my thoughts really.

Being born and raised lower class leaves you wishing that you were never born at all.

Now I'm homeless, and it just feels all the more that I would be better off dead because I'm literally worthless.
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Trickfinger posted...

imagine being past college age, and broke af, and thinking you're a viable partner

Fuck off with this bullshit
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QueenCarly posted...

Fuck off with this bullshit

it made me upset too.

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Quit your blabbering and spend more time improving yourself

Wealth is all about investing over time. Most wealthy people didn't inherit their wealth. Build it.

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pls posted...

Quit your blabbering and spend more time improving yourself

Wealth is all about investing over time. Most wealthy people didn't inherit their wealth. Build it.

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pls posted...

Quit your blabbering and spend more time improving yourself

Wealth is all about investing over time. Most wealthy people didn't inherit their wealth. Build it.

There is a reason poverty is typically generational and that reason isn't the poor don't spend time improving themselves.
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QueenCarly posted...

There is a reason poverty is typically generational and that reason isn't the poor don't spend time improving themselves.

no shit. arent we all assuming that everyone here is or started off being poor?

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Is pls a Proudclad alt? I thought that dude finally fucked off from the board
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AwesomeToTheMAX posted...

Is pls a Proudclad alt? I thought that dude finally fucked off from the board

Yes that is Clod
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Trickfinger posted...

QueenCarly posted...

There is a reason poverty is typically generational and that reason isn't the poor don't spend time improving themselves.

no shit. arent we all assuming that everyone here is or started off being poor?

Most people here are much closer to being poor than they are to being wealthy
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QueenCarly posted...

There is a reason poverty is typically generational and that reason isn't the poor don't spend time improving themselves.

Must be why this is happening right before our eyes

https://ourworldindata.org/extreme-poverty

"The available long-run evidence shows that in the past, only a small elite enjoyed living conditions that would not be described as extreme poverty today. But with the onset of industrialization and rising productivity, the share of people living in extreme poverty started to decrease. Accordingly, the share of people in extreme poverty has decreased continuously over the course of the last two centuries. This is surely one of the most remarkable achievements of humankind."

TC is not so poor as to be unable to improve himself and his condition

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You don't need to be living in extreme poverty to experience the inherent existential stress living as a lower class person entails.

If you get sick and lose your job...
If your car breaks down and you can't afford to repair it...
If you are short on rent...

Most people don't have the spare resources to "invest over time."
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QueenCarly posted...

Most people don't have the spare resources to "invest over time."

Yes they do what most people don't have is a semblance of financial literacy or budgeting acumen.

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To reproduce as much as possible, then die
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Trickfinger posted...

QueenCarly posted...

Most people don't have the spare resources to "invest over time."

Yes they do what most people don't have is a semblance of financial literacy or budgeting acumen.

These are skills not taught to the poor. (Intentionally)

Still though, If you're living paycheck to paycheck, paying bills and only spending money on food and other necessities then you really don't have the financial resources.
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QueenCarly posted...

You don't need to be living in extreme poverty to experience the inherent existential stress living as a lower class person entails.

If you get sick and lose your job...
If your car breaks down and you can't afford to repair it...
If you are short on rent...

Most people don't have the spare resources to "invest over time."

You can certainly find people like that in the world, but TC is most definitely not in that position.

And neither would we stop giving people the advice of "improve yourself" just because there are people who are born blind, deaf, to a single parent all in a third world country. It's usually good advice in the right context.

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QueenCarly posted...

These are skills not taught to the poor. (Intentionally)

Still though, If you're living paycheck to paycheck, paying bills and only spending money on food and other necessities then you really don't have the financial resources.

I mean the average car payment in America is over $500 a month, for brand new vehicles. IE average Americans are choosing to squander their wealth in many ways. There is certainly a vast audience to which such financial lessons are applicable

Just because there are Americans who cannot apply such lessons doesn't mean we shouldn't tell any Americans those things.

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pls posted...

QueenCarly posted...

These are skills not taught to the poor. (Intentionally)

Still though, If you're living paycheck to paycheck, paying bills and only spending money on food and other necessities then you really don't have the financial resources.

I mean the average car payment in America is over $500 a month, for brand new vehicles. IE average Americans are choosing to squander their wealth in many ways. There is certainly a vast audience to which such financial lessons are applicable

Just because there are Americans who cannot apply such lessons doesn't mean we shouldn't tell any Americans those things.

Annecdotal I know, but I know next to no people who have a new car or any car with a payment that high.

And sure, tell people those things. No one is though.
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The cute girls on this planet keeps me going tbh.
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QueenCarly posted...

Annecdotal I know,

I mean come on comrade. I know many people who do fall into that bucket.

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Trickfinger posted...

if someone is struggling with money at a certain age that's a turn off. people that are successful are attractive in every facet.

AwesomeToTheMAX posted...

That's cool and all but not everyone is perfect and people don't live perfect lives. People lose jobs. People have things they don't expect happen to them

Would you break up with your S/O the moment she got laid off?

I don't think Trickfinger's comment is wrong - at a certain age, career success/aspirations (even those yet to be realised) can be an attractive quality when looking for a companion.

I know I wasn't popular with ladies/etc in school - didn't have the typical 'attractive' attributes, but once you're into your mid 20's, it becomes a much more influential factor because it has necessary benefits to providing for a sustainable relationship and livelihood in the future especially if children are on the cards.

As for Trickfinger's other sentiment... well, it perhaps could've been worded better but the fundamental point above is still valid.

QueenCarly posted...

There is a reason poverty is typically generational and that reason isn't the poor don't spend time improving themselves.

My parents both grew up in poverty and their hunger (both literal and metaphorical) pushed them to want better for their kids, and I'm appreciative that I was able to go to school. I appreciate them both having multiple jobs and taking on as many additional shifts/double shifts so that we had food on the table. I like to think I've achieved what they were hoping for and their sacrifice wasn't for nothing.

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