Current Events > New study: Not all instances of gender inequality are equally concerning

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pls 09/18/19 9:09:50 AM #1:	https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022103118304633 Note it's not justifying the lack of concern for men. It's pointing it out. "An emphasis on women's underrepresentation in Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math roles (STEM) has not been matched by a similar concern about men's underrepresentation in Healthcare, Early Education, and Domestic roles (HEED)." In other words, the people pretending to care about "diversity and inclusion" only care about it one way. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>pls posted [p:927603775] in New study:... [t:78023078]...</cite> <quote>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022103118304633 Note it's not justifying the lack of concern for men. It's pointing it out. "An emphasis on women's underrepresentation in Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math roles (STEM) has not been matched by a similar concern about men's underrepresentation in Healthcare, Early Education, and Domestic roles (HEED)." In other words, the people pretending to care about "diversity and inclusion" only care about it one way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MudKip_Master 09/18/19 9:10:44 AM #2:	Sexists thinking Men should just tough it out or something... <cite>MudKip_Master posted [p:927603797] in New study:... [t:78023078]...</cite> <quote>Sexists thinking Men should just tough it out or something...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
specialkid8 09/18/19 9:11:06 AM #3:	Did we need a new study for this? <cite>specialkid8 posted [p:927603811] in New study:... [t:78023078]...</cite> <quote>Did we need a new study for this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 09/18/19 9:12:04 AM #4:	Men in healthcare make up most of the upper level positions though, I'd imagine. Board members, physicians, surgeons, stuff like that. Never mind the Dave that front desk reception and billing is overwhelmingly women and that falls within the healthcare industry. --- https://i.imgtc.ws/x2KBsjI.png <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:927603833] in New study:... [t:78023078]...</cite> <quote>Men in healthcare make up most of the upper level positions though, I'd imagine. Board members, physicians, surgeons, stuff like that. Never mind the Dave that front desk reception and billing is overwhelmingly women and that falls within the healthcare industry.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pogo_rabid 09/18/19 9:12:59 AM #5:	Another good example is the sheer focus on breast cancer vs prostate cancer. One has a super high survival rate, the other, is basically the inverse...however one gets all the funding and attention, while the other is practically ignored. --- Ryzen 3800x @ 4.3, 32 gig @ 4000, 1070ti, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E <cite>pogo_rabid posted [p:927603866] in New study:... [t:78023078]...</cite> <quote>Another good example is the sheer focus on breast cancer vs prostate cancer. One has a super high survival rate, the other, is basically the inverse...however one gets all the funding and attention, while the other is practically ignored.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pls 09/18/19 9:13:11 AM #6:	specialkid8 posted... Did we need a new study for this? Yes we did, because apparently some people are too blind to notice it otherwise. When was the last time you saw any mention of including more men in teaching positions? Maybe more schools need a Head of Diversity & Inclusion. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>pls posted [p:927603873] in New study:... [t:78023078]...</cite> <quote>specialkid8 posted... </cite> <quote>Did we need a new study for this?</quote> Yes we did, because apparently some people are too blind to notice it otherwise. When was the last time you saw any mention of including more men in teaching positions? Maybe more schools need a Head of Diversity & Inclusion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pls 09/18/19 9:14:02 AM #7:	pogo_rabid posted... Another good example is the sheer focus on breast cancer vs prostate cancer. One has a super high survival rate, the other, is basically the inverse...however one gets all the funding and attention, while the other is practically ignored. Or how men are far more likely to get injured at work, to commit suicidal, to be given harmful medicines for "ADD" when they're really just being energetic boys, etc. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>pls posted [p:927603899] in New study:... [t:78023078]...</cite> <quote>pogo_rabid posted... </cite> <quote>Another good example is the sheer focus on breast cancer vs prostate cancer. One has a super high survival rate, the other, is basically the inverse...however one gets all the funding and attention, while the other is practically ignored.</quote> Or how men are far more likely to get injured at work, to commit suicidal, to be given harmful medicines for "ADD" when they're really just being energetic boys, etc. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 09/18/19 9:14:25 AM #8:	pogo_rabid posted... Another good example is the sheer focus on breast cancer vs prostate cancer. One has a super high survival rate, the other, is basically the inverse...however one gets all the funding and attention, while the other is practically ignored. Also, men who try and get care for breast cancer can face some hurdles. Where's that article from a few years ago about the guy who went to a breast cancer event that had free screenings and got declined due to being a man? --- https://i.imgtc.ws/x2KBsjI.png <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:927603906] in New study:... [t:78023078]...</cite> <quote>pogo_rabid posted...</cite> <quote>Another good example is the sheer focus on breast cancer vs prostate cancer. One has a super high survival rate, the other, is basically the inverse...however one gets all the funding and attention, while the other is practically ignored.</quote> Also, men who try and get care for breast cancer can face some hurdles. Where's that article from a few years ago about the guy who went to a breast cancer event that had free screenings and got declined due to being a man?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZMythos 09/18/19 9:14:43 AM #9:	What barriers exist that stop men from going into these fields? --- Rainbow Dashing: "it's just star wars" AutumnEspirit: kissu <cite>ZMythos posted [p:927603911] in New study:... [t:78023078]...</cite> <quote>What barriers exist that stop men from going into these fields?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pls 09/18/19 9:15:20 AM #10:	ZMythos posted... What barriers exist that stop men from going into these fields? Well according to Diversity & Inclusion pundits, the massive disparity is in itself evidence that there are barriers. So pointless question by those standards. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>pls posted [p:927603929] in New study:... [t:78023078]...</cite> <quote>ZMythos posted... </cite> <quote>What barriers exist that stop men from going into these fields?</quote> Well according to Diversity & Inclusion pundits, the massive disparity is in itself evidence that there are barriers. So pointless question by those standards. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pogo_rabid 09/18/19 9:16:07 AM #11:	ZMythos posted... What barriers exist that stop men from going into these fields? There's a recent trend where men who go into fields that are children-centric are suspected to be pedophiles. Hardly anyone wants to put up with that kind of bullshit. --- Ryzen 3800x @ 4.3, 32 gig @ 4000, 1070ti, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E <cite>pogo_rabid posted [p:927603960] in New study:... [t:78023078]...</cite> <quote>ZMythos posted...</cite> <quote>What barriers exist that stop men from going into these fields?</quote> There's a recent trend where men who go into fields that are children-centric are suspected to be pedophiles. Hardly anyone wants to put up with that kind of bullshit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lolamerica 09/18/19 9:16:17 AM #12:	At my middle school, I work with 5 men and 34 women. Education has always been that way. Elementary is way worse. <cite>lolamerica posted [p:927603969] in New study:... [t:78023078]...</cite> <quote>At my middle school, I work with 5 men and 34 women. Education has always been that way. Elementary is way worse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MudKip_Master 09/18/19 9:16:23 AM #13:	ZMythos posted... What barriers exist that stop men from going into these fields? Sexism and harassment. <cite>MudKip_Master posted [p:927603971] in New study:... [t:78023078]...</cite> <quote>ZMythos posted...</cite> <quote>What barriers exist that stop men from going into these fields?</quote> Sexism and harassment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lolife67 09/18/19 9:18:11 AM #14:	pls posted... pogo_rabid posted... Another good example is the sheer focus on breast cancer vs prostate cancer. One has a super high survival rate, the other, is basically the inverse...however one gets all the funding and attention, while the other is practically ignored. Or how men are far more likely to get injured at work, to commit suicidal, to be given harmful medicines for "ADD" when they're really just being energetic boys, etc. gunplagirl posted... Also, men who try and get care for breast cancer can face some hurdles. Where's that article from a few years ago about the guy who went to a breast cancer event that had free screenings and got declined due to being a man? Men should advocate for these things more. I know why we don't (we can be dumb) but that attitude really needs to change. <cite>lolife67 posted [p:927604010] in New study:... [t:78023078]...</cite> <quote>pls posted...</cite> <quote>pogo_rabid posted... </cite> <quote>Another good example is the sheer focus on breast cancer vs prostate cancer. One has a super high survival rate, the other, is basically the inverse...however one gets all the funding and attention, while the other is practically ignored.</quote> Or how men are far more likely to get injured at work, to commit suicidal, to be given harmful medicines for "ADD" when they're really just being energetic boys, etc. </quote> gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Also, men who try and get care for breast cancer can face some hurdles. Where's that article from a few years ago about the guy who went to a breast cancer event that had free screenings and got declined due to being a man?</quote> Men should advocate for these things more. I know why we don't (we can be dumb) but that attitude really needs to change.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pogo_rabid 09/18/19 9:19:31 AM #15:	lolife67 posted... pls posted... pogo_rabid posted... Another good example is the sheer focus on breast cancer vs prostate cancer. One has a super high survival rate, the other, is basically the inverse...however one gets all the funding and attention, while the other is practically ignored. Or how men are far more likely to get injured at work, to commit suicidal, to be given harmful medicines for "ADD" when they're really just being energetic boys, etc. gunplagirl posted... Also, men who try and get care for breast cancer can face some hurdles. Where's that article from a few years ago about the guy who went to a breast cancer event that had free screenings and got declined due to being a man? Men should advocate for these things more. I know why we don't (we can be dumb) but that attitude really needs to change. The moment you try to advocate for a mens issue, you get labeled negatively. --- Ryzen 3800x @ 4.3, 32 gig @ 4000, 1070ti, 970pro, Asus Strix x570-E <cite>pogo_rabid posted [p:927604067] in New study:... [t:78023078]...</cite> <quote>lolife67 posted...</cite> <quote>pls posted...</cite> <quote>pogo_rabid posted... </cite> <quote>Another good example is the sheer focus on breast cancer vs prostate cancer. One has a super high survival rate, the other, is basically the inverse...however one gets all the funding and attention, while the other is practically ignored.</quote> Or how men are far more likely to get injured at work, to commit suicidal, to be given harmful medicines for "ADD" when they're really just being energetic boys, etc. </quote> gunplagirl posted...</cite> <quote>Also, men who try and get care for breast cancer can face some hurdles. Where's that article from a few years ago about the guy who went to a breast cancer event that had free screenings and got declined due to being a man?</quote> Men should advocate for these things more. I know why we don't (we can be dumb) but that attitude really needs to change.</quote> The moment you try to advocate for a mens issue, you get labeled negatively.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pls 09/18/19 9:19:53 AM #16:	lolife67 posted... Men should advocate for these things more. I know why we don't (we can be dumb) but that attitude really needs to change. The reason they don't is because the narrative and media are completely dominated by just women's needs, and contesting that or trying to bring light to men's issues gets you labeled an MRA. Even when MRAs have valid points. This problem will probably get much worse before it gets better. You already see a ton of boys checking out of school due to being neglected and punished more severely for the same bad behaviors due to biases against boys. Etc. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>pls posted [p:927604079] in New study:... [t:78023078]...</cite> <quote>lolife67 posted... </cite> <quote>Men should advocate for these things more. I know why we don't (we can be dumb) but that attitude really needs to change.</quote> The reason they don't is because the narrative and media are completely dominated by just women's needs, and contesting that or trying to bring light to men's issues gets you labeled an MRA. Even when MRAs have valid points. This problem will probably get much worse before it gets better. You already see a ton of boys checking out of school due to being neglected and punished more severely for the same bad behaviors due to biases against boys. Etc. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
specialkid8 09/18/19 1:03:50 PM #17:	ZMythos posted... What barriers exist that stop men from going into these fields? A lot of men going into female centric jobs are bullied for being unmanly or effeminate or outright called gay. And in the case of education, apparently every man is right on the tipping point of being a child molester. <cite>specialkid8 posted [p:927612884] in New study:... [t:78023078]...</cite> <quote>ZMythos posted...</cite> <quote>What barriers exist that stop men from going into these fields?</quote> A lot of men going into female centric jobs are bullied for being unmanly or effeminate or outright called gay. And in the case of education, apparently every man is right on the tipping point of being a child molester.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lolife67 09/19/19 9:03:51 AM #18:	pls posted... lolife67 posted... Men should advocate for these things more. I know why we don't (we can be dumb) but that attitude really needs to change. The reason they don't is because the narrative and media are completely dominated by just women's needs, and contesting that or trying to bring light to men's issues gets you labeled an MRA. Even when MRAs have valid points. This problem will probably get much worse before it gets better. You already see a ton of boys checking out of school due to being neglected and punished more severely for the same bad behaviors due to biases against boys. Etc. This isn't really true. People turn on "MRA's" because the points they bring up are more retaliatory than actual concern. Most people talk about "toxic masculinity," which covers a lot of the issues you brought up here yet men are the ones who generally don't want to discuss these things. We don't go to the doctor, not because of the media, but because we don't want to be seen as weak. Things like that. pogo_rabid posted... The moment you try to advocate for a mens issue, you get labeled negatively. Generally by other men, true. <cite>lolife67 posted [p:927651564] in New study:... [t:78023078]...</cite> <quote>pls posted...</cite> <quote>lolife67 posted... </cite> <quote>Men should advocate for these things more. I know why we don't (we can be dumb) but that attitude really needs to change.</quote> The reason they don't is because the narrative and media are completely dominated by just women's needs, and contesting that or trying to bring light to men's issues gets you labeled an MRA. Even when MRAs have valid points. This problem will probably get much worse before it gets better. You already see a ton of boys checking out of school due to being neglected and punished more severely for the same bad behaviors due to biases against boys. Etc. </quote> This isn't really true. People turn on "MRA's" because the points they bring up are more retaliatory than actual concern. Most people talk about "toxic masculinity," which covers a lot of the issues you brought up here yet men are the ones who generally don't want to discuss these things. We don't go to the doctor, not because of the media, but because we don't want to be seen as weak. Things like that. pogo_rabid posted...</cite> <quote>The moment you try to advocate for a mens issue, you get labeled negatively.</quote> Generally by other men, true.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem boy 09/19/19 9:09:48 AM #19:	How's it been proudclad --- Pitter-patter, let's get at 'er <cite>emblem boy posted [p:927651728] in New study:... [t:78023078]...</cite> <quote>How's it been proudclad</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pls 09/19/19 11:24:00 AM #21:	lolife67 posted... Most people talk about "toxic masculinity," which covers a lot of the issues you brought up here Nah, those things I mentioned are systemic issues caused by misandry. Society in general favors women in that regard. This study is an example of that. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>pls posted [p:927656393] in New study:... [t:78023078]...</cite> <quote>lolife67 posted... </cite> <quote>Most people talk about "toxic masculinity," which covers a lot of the issues you brought up here</quote> Nah, those things I mentioned are systemic issues caused by misandry. Society in general favors women in that regard. This study is an example of that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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