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Bestoffuture
09/17/19 12:36:27 PM
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Big fan of both, but I personally think Bernie has much more charisma

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Politics
09/17/19 12:39:22 PM
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Because she's running a really good campaign. Also Sanders advantage last election was he was pretty much the only opposition to Clinton. There isn't really a figure like Clinton this time so we have more options.

Also sadly Sanders calling himself a "socialist" hurts him a little.
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ledbowman
09/17/19 12:42:09 PM
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Just better optics I think. Not that Bernie has bad optics but
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ToPoPO
09/17/19 12:45:24 PM
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Because she's a heifer
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Tired-Insomniac
09/17/19 12:48:02 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Shes campaigning better, Hillary supporters dont hold a grudge against her, she doesnt look like a crazy old man, and her policies are laid out more numerically which I think makes them look more credible.


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Questionmarktarius
09/17/19 12:48:28 PM
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Warren supporters are slightly better at math than Sanders supporters.
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ChopinList
09/17/19 12:56:21 PM
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Female vote boost.
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foreverzero212
09/17/19 12:56:28 PM
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More favorable media coverage from the stations that can take a mayor like pete from 0% to 10% in less than a month. Warren's plans aren't any more detailed or number savvy than Bernie's, heck he wrote the damn bills. But there's a media blackout on Bernie's policy dumps.

Strong debate performances. Solid campaign.

She's also not polling better than Sanders. Their average is a tie and most of the big polls have Sanders up 1-3 points.
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Doom_Art
09/17/19 1:01:05 PM
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Running a great campaign
Energetic
No lingering animus between her and Clinton supporters
Appealing to progressives and certain breeds of moderate

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PiOverlord
09/17/19 1:02:23 PM
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I also imagine we will start getting a clearer picture as it gets closer to the Iowa Caucuses.

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Broseph_Stalin
09/17/19 1:03:55 PM
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foreverzero212 posted...
More favorable media coverage from the stations that can take a mayor like pete from 0% to 10% in less than a month. Warren's plans aren't any more detailed or number savvy than Bernie's, heck he wrote the damn bills. But there's a media blackout on Bernie's policy dumps.

Strong debate performances. Solid campaign.

She's also not polling better than Sanders. Their average is a tie and most of the big polls have Sanders up 1-3 points.

I love how trump and bernie supporters have the exact same post but with the names swapped
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Wewillrocku
09/17/19 1:04:28 PM
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because she's warrin' against him!
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Balrog0
09/17/19 1:07:57 PM
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Sanders was slightly above her when I checked the RCP averages recently, but they've been going back and forth on that

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Caution998
09/17/19 1:08:30 PM
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Bernie just reminds me of of an angry Doc Brown 99% of the time.
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foreverzero212
09/17/19 1:17:35 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
foreverzero212 posted...
She's also not polling better than Sanders. Their average is a tie and most of the big polls have Sanders up 1-3 points.

While thats a good point, the trends are pretty important. Sanders hasnt been able to capture a bigger base than he had in 2016. But yeah we shouldnt be acting like Warren is running away from Sanders in the polling.

She has momentum for sure and I was this board's first and strongest Warren supporter when she launched. If we're going to talk about struggling to expand bases, Warren is topping out with the white educated demo, she's stolen about all she's going to steal from Harris, Beto, and Pete supporters if 2nd choice is to be believed. It's why she's getting mauled by Sanders in states with any sort of minorities.

None of any of this matters really. Whoever wins the first couple states is going to get a flood of support.
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foreverzero212
09/17/19 1:43:51 PM
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If Bernie's ground game numbers are real he should have no trouble winning the Iowa caucus. Then the next few states will easily fall in line. If Warren pulls an upset in Iowa she's 100% the nominee, end the primary there.

Biden is already expecting to lose the first few states which has disqualified his campaign in my eyes. He has flimsy front runner support and as soon as he loses states his support is dropping to near 0%
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Iodine
09/17/19 6:55:08 PM
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She has ran an amazing campaign and is fucking Brilliant.
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Screamadelica19
09/17/19 6:57:13 PM
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Bestoffuture posted...
Big fan of both, but I personally think Bernie has much more charisma


Uh, I like Bernie, but charismatic is the last thing I'd call him.
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Bestoffuture
09/17/19 6:59:43 PM
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Screamadelica19 posted...
Uh, I like Bernie, but charismatic is the last thing I'd call him.


The dude has a cult following for a reason.

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Unsugarized_Foo
09/17/19 7:01:17 PM
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She's a non-white woman. She's the face of the Democratic party
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Screamadelica19
09/17/19 7:02:48 PM
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Bestoffuture posted...
Screamadelica19 posted...
Uh, I like Bernie, but charismatic is the last thing I'd call him.


The dude has a cult following for a reason.


And that's why it's "cult", you're v
making my point. If he had any actual charisma, he would be the mainstream front runner, no questions asked. But he's a curmudgeon with a zero charisma roll. Like, none.
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Bestoffuture
09/17/19 7:06:23 PM
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Screamadelica19 posted...
And that's why it's "cult", you're v
making my point. If he had any actual charisma, he would be the mainstream front runner, no questions asked. But he's a curmudgeon with a zero charisma roll. Like, none.


That's a weak argument. He's brought progressive ideas to the mainstream. Medicare for All was not discussed seriously on the national level until he came along.

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Screamadelica19
09/17/19 7:09:12 PM
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Bestoffuture posted...
Screamadelica19 posted...
And that's why it's "cult", you're v
making my point. If he had any actual charisma, he would be the mainstream front runner, no questions asked. But he's a curmudgeon with a zero charisma roll. Like, none.


That's a weak argument. He's brought progressive ideas to the mainstream. Medicare for All was not discussed seriously on the national level until he came along.


None of that has to do with charisma.

Like I said, I like Bernie. But zero charisma, which is what we were talking about. His lack of charisma is what holds him back, honestly.
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TaintedCheez
09/17/19 7:12:04 PM
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It's her turn...
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Anteaterking
09/17/19 7:14:11 PM
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foreverzero212 posted...
More favorable media coverage from the stations that can take a mayor like pete from 0% to 10% in less than a month


Mayor Pete's success led his media coverage, not vice versa.
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ColdOne666
09/17/19 7:16:38 PM
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Warren is competent while Warren is senile.
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TaintedCheez
09/17/19 7:18:30 PM
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ColdOne666 posted...
Warren is competent while Warren is senile.

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iPhone_7
09/17/19 7:22:26 PM
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The candidate that talks the most about cancelling student debt, giving illegals access to public services, & criticizes Trump will win the nomination.

Thats how were going to win, not by fighting what we hate, saving what we love.
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CW_McGraw
09/17/19 8:02:18 PM
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2016 salt. Some amount of Dems blame Bernie for Trump winning. Warren was on Bernie's side enough back then to siphon some of his support while being a neutral enough figure overall to still suck up some generic Democrat votes.

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EndOfDiscOne
09/18/19 11:01:59 AM
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Instead of just saying "free soft drinks in the cafeteria," Warren explains how she plans to make that happen
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foreverzero212
09/18/19 2:29:01 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
foreverzero212 posted...
More favorable media coverage from the stations that can take a mayor like pete from 0% to 10% in less than a month


Mayor Pete's success led his media coverage, not vice versa.

I'm almost certain this is a joke post but it's hard to tell these days lol
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Anteaterking
09/18/19 5:16:10 PM
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