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pls
09/13/19 12:27:50 AM
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Dark_Garioshi
09/13/19 12:28:44 AM
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Beto's polling at 1%, this is a desperation move.

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pls
09/13/19 12:31:41 AM
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GregShmedley posted...
Let's entertain this for a sec. Say the government did confiscate semiautomatic rifles without any sort of push back and then mass shooters start resorting to the guns that we are allowed to have, won't there eventually be a push for bans on them?


They want a ban for sure, they're just not stupid enough to push for it without lots of support. So they approach it from this angle instead.
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action52
09/13/19 12:37:50 AM
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Almost no democrats are trying to ban all guns.

There sure as hell are plenty of Democrats who want to ban guns like AR-15s and AK-47s that have no place outside of a battlefield.

We want restrictions on guns. If we could get our way, access would be limited for those who can't responsibly handle them, the amount of guns floating around in the USA would be reduced, and the most dangerous types of guns would be illegal. However there is no way the Democratic party as it is now would try to take away all guns.

And Beto is completely within the bounds of this, so stop trying to make Beto's remarks into something they aren't.
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pls
09/13/19 12:40:43 AM
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action52 posted...
Almost no democrats are trying to ban all guns.

There sure as hell are plenty of Democrats who want to ban guns like AR-15s and AK-47s that have no place outside of a battlefield.

We want restrictions on guns. If we could get our way, access would be limited for those who can't responsibly handle them, the amount of guns floating around in the USA would be reduced, and the most dangerous types of guns would be illegal. However there is no way the Democratic party as it is now would try to take away all guns.

And Beto is completely within the bounds of this, so stop trying to make Beto's remarks into something they aren't.


There are tens millions of those types of guns in circulation without being used for harm. No matter how you try to spin it, it is pretty clear what you really think and want. In terms of strict numbers, handguns are used for most crime but you don't see amendment haters like Beto and other major Democrats talking about those.

These people hate the nation and our Constitution, simple as that.
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SSMajinVegeta2
09/13/19 12:41:20 AM
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Just give it all up. Freedom is overrated.

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SiO4
09/13/19 12:43:57 AM
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pls posted...
These people hate the nation and our Constitution, simple as that.


LOL, gotta do better than that.
I honestly hope you are not that simple minded.
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Dark_Spiret
09/13/19 12:52:24 AM
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action52 posted...
Almost no democrats are trying to ban all guns.

no, theres not very many that want ALL guns gone. however there is a good chunk that want all semi-auto guns gone which take up a large majority of firearms and most democrats want to get rid of AR's and AK's which are also in 15+ million citizens hands and saying AR15's only have a purpose on the battlefield is bullshit. The AR platform is used for pretty much everything now which is why its so popular. and that doesnt even fucking matter, guns like the AR or AK take up something like .3% of total firearm deaths and yet those types of guns are the evil ones that the democrats want to disarm the populace over.

basically, "we dont want to take or ban your guns, just 90% of them".
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SiO4
09/13/19 1:02:37 AM
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Dark_Spiret posted...
The AR platform is used for pretty much everything now which is why its so popular.


Like what?
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Elmer_Glue
09/13/19 1:04:15 AM
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SiO4 posted...
Dark_Spiret posted...
The AR platform is used for pretty much everything now which is why its so popular.


Like what?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15_style_rifle
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ThePrinceFish
09/13/19 1:06:08 AM
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Always fun when the gun grabbers try to pretend that the AR-15 is a military weapon.
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/13/19 1:12:38 AM
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TC gets fooled and fear mongered by the NRA's propaganda
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De Evolution
09/13/19 1:14:29 AM
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pls posted...
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They want a ban for sure, they're just not stupid enough to push for it without lots of support. So they approach it from this angle instead.

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SiO4
09/13/19 1:18:48 AM
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Elmer_Glue posted...
SiO4 posted...
Dark_Spiret posted...
The AR platform is used for pretty much everything now which is why its so popular.


Like what?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15_style_rifle


Don't post a wiki page.

I want to know what the day to day usage anyone has with such an item.
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Malcrasternus
09/13/19 1:32:25 AM
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SiO4 posted...
Elmer_Glue posted...
SiO4 posted...
Dark_Spiret posted...
The AR platform is used for pretty much everything now which is why its so popular.


Like what?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15_style_rifle


Don't post a wiki page.

I want to know what the day to day usage anyone has with such an item.


Hunting
Varminting
Pest control
Home Defense
Patrol
Security
3 Gun Competition
Long Distance
Recreational Shooting
Training
Launching Soda Cans
Launching Tennis Balls
Avalanche Control
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DeadBankerDream
09/13/19 1:47:28 AM
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Remember when TC thought that one Democratic president candidate who has almost no support was the entire democratic party?

I know it sounds too stupid to be true.

But it was this topic.
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Malcrasternus
09/13/19 1:58:23 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Remember when TC thought that one Democratic president candidate who has almost no support was the entire democratic party?

I know it sounds too stupid to be true.

But it was this topic.


There are several candidates that are pushing for this.
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/13/19 2:02:40 AM
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ANY sort of gun reform = "dey takin r gunz!"
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Malcrasternus
09/13/19 2:04:10 AM
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...
ANY sort of gun reform = "dey takin r gunz!"


Mandatory buybacks aren't gun reforms. That's literally taking the gun away.
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/13/19 2:05:32 AM
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like I said.
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Malcrasternus
09/13/19 2:06:27 AM
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I don't know why I was expecting anything out of you.

This is CE, after all.
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/13/19 2:08:43 AM
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Malcrasternus posted...
I don't know why I was expecting anything out of you.

This is CE, after all.


targeting specific guns is a lot different from targeting guns in GENERAL. you people don't see nuance, only your bottom line(when it's beneficial). therefore I'm not going to waste energy on you.

but keep pretending like you're different from the rest of CE, lol.
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Dark_Spiret
09/13/19 2:14:44 AM
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SiO4 posted...
Like what?

nearly anything a gun in general can be used for outside of maybe deep concealment.
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Malcrasternus
09/13/19 2:22:22 AM
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...
Malcrasternus posted...
I don't know why I was expecting anything out of you.

This is CE, after all.


targeting specific guns is a lot different from targeting guns in GENERAL. you people don't see nuance, only your bottom line(when it's beneficial). therefore I'm not going to waste energy on you.

but keep pretending like you're different from the rest of CE, lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0" data-time="


This is the part where we both dismiss each other as too lowly to debate.You'll give another passive aggressive, dismissive harp to try and discredit "my side," without saying anything of any real value.

Fact is gun confiscation has been attempted before, with little to no regard as to what or why is being banned. First the "scary" looking ones get to go, then when the next mass shooting happens, we ask if we truly need firearms at all. It's happened before in the 90's, it's happening now, and it'll continue to happen because it's easier to treat the symptoms rather than the causes.
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Unsugarized_Foo
09/13/19 2:24:08 AM
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So, should I try to get some guns on the cheap in hopes that the government will buy them for more?
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/13/19 2:54:05 AM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
So, should I try to get some guns on the cheap in hopes that the government will buy them for more?


yup!
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SH_expert44
09/13/19 2:56:36 AM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
So, should I try to get some guns on the cheap in hopes that the government will buy them for more?

people were literally making guns out of pipes and selling them to buy backs. If they want to open something like that, take them for every penny.
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Heineken14
09/13/19 3:02:49 AM
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I wasn't aware ARs and AKs were all guns.
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Philosopher_X
09/13/19 3:04:51 AM
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Heineken14 posted...
I wasn't aware ARs and AKs were all guns.


Unfortunately those are the only guns available in America. So taking those guns away would completely disarm Americans.
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vigorm0rtis
09/13/19 3:28:06 AM
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Outlawing one firearm isn't outlawing all, but... yeah, that was dumb. I don't think realizes the scope of what he's saying.
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SiO4
09/13/19 3:30:55 AM
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Dark_Spiret posted...
SiO4 posted...
Like what?

nearly anything a gun in general can be used for outside of maybe deep concealment.


The Boys with Toys argument will never work with me.
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/13/19 3:48:19 AM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
Outlawing one firearm isn't outlawing all, but... yeah, that was dumb. I don't think realizes the scope of what he's saying.


they propose wild ideas already KNOWING it'll be shut down. this way they can be like, "hey guys, I tried but they said no."

Bernie Sanders was doing this in 2016 with his "free everything" campaign.
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nicklebro
09/13/19 3:52:24 AM
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Man people like TC are so absurd with partisanship it's no wonder the country is so divided. That said, Beto should be smart enough to realize how absurd this idea is.
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nicklebro
09/13/19 3:53:28 AM
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...
vigorm0rtis posted...
Outlawing one firearm isn't outlawing all, but... yeah, that was dumb. I don't think realizes the scope of what he's saying.


they propose wild ideas already KNOWING it'll be shut down. this way they can be like, "hey guys, I tried but they said no."

Bernie Sanders was doing this in 2016 with his "free everything" campaign.

Kinda like the whole "Mexico will pay for it" thing yeah? Seems to be a pretty common tactic for politicians to promise things they can't possibly deliver.
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vigorm0rtis
09/13/19 3:55:26 AM
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...
vigorm0rtis posted...
Outlawing one firearm isn't outlawing all, but... yeah, that was dumb. I don't think realizes the scope of what he's saying.


they propose wild ideas already KNOWING it'll be shut down. this way they can be like, "hey guys, I tried but they said no."

Bernie Sanders was doing this in 2016 with his "free everything" campaign.


Look up the Overton Window.
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Lonestar2000
09/13/19 3:57:10 AM
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RickyTheBAWSE
09/13/19 3:59:23 AM
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nicklebro posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
vigorm0rtis posted...
Outlawing one firearm isn't outlawing all, but... yeah, that was dumb. I don't think realizes the scope of what he's saying.


they propose wild ideas already KNOWING it'll be shut down. this way they can be like, "hey guys, I tried but they said no."

Bernie Sanders was doing this in 2016 with his "free everything" campaign.

Kinda like the whole "Mexico will pay for it" thing yeah? Seems to be a pretty common tactic for politicians to promise things they can't possibly deliver.


exactly.

their supporters know when things sound "too good to be true," but something about a man in a suit speaking with 100% confidence does this weird override with their ability to be rational.

especially if the demographic is fuelled by righteous indignation and promised an opportunity to "get back at" whoever.
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hockeybub89
09/13/19 3:59:55 AM
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nicklebro
09/13/19 4:01:20 AM
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Sucks that what gets a presidemt elected is completely irrelevant or even detrimental to what it takes to actually be a good president.
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Heineken14
09/13/19 4:02:44 AM
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nicklebro posted...
RickyTheBAWSE posted...
vigorm0rtis posted...
Outlawing one firearm isn't outlawing all, but... yeah, that was dumb. I don't think realizes the scope of what he's saying.


they propose wild ideas already KNOWING it'll be shut down. this way they can be like, "hey guys, I tried but they said no."

Bernie Sanders was doing this in 2016 with his "free everything" campaign.

Kinda like the whole "Mexico will pay for it" thing yeah? Seems to be a pretty common tactic for politicians to promise things they can't possibly deliver.


Except Bernie was proposing ways on how to pay for his "free things" while Donnie was just going "uhh.... they'll pay for it... yeah, yeah that's it. Another country will pay for it!"
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Dark_Spiret
09/13/19 4:04:59 AM
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Philosopher_X posted...
Unfortunately those are the only guns available in America. So taking those guns away would completely disarm Americans.
it leads into the notion that the AR and AK are some how more deadly than any of the other hundred different types of magazine fed semi-auto rifles on the market (despite their death counts being the lowest of any type of firearm) especially with manufacturers knowing how to skirt the law when certain firearm bans go into effect thanks to gun grabbers knowing jack shit about guns. so with that you then run into the problem of people just switching over to those other weapons and losing no killing power in the process. so then the gun control crowd comes back and tries to gobble up even more of the pie with more and more bans and the whole thing just keeps going until no one can own anything. its already happening in several states and especially in countries around the world.

the '94 AWB showed that banning those types of weapons had either no effect or it was extremely negligible. the gun control crowd called it a success as in less of those weapons were used in killings while ignoring that the overall death counts remained consistent with previous years (or fallowed the downward trend of violent crimes from years prior to the AWB) as killers just used other types of available firearms and that deaths by rifles already took up an extremely small percentage of crimes largely negating any real effect.

SiO4 posted...
The Boys with Toys argument will never work with me.
AR's arnt toys. dont be silly.
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nicklebro
09/13/19 4:08:00 AM
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Heineken14 posted...
Except Bernie was proposing ways on how to pay for his "free things" while Donnie was just going "uhh.... they'll pay for it... yeah, yeah that's it. Another country will pay for it!"

Yeah, they were a bit far fetched but at least he wasn't letting some ad libbed nonsense literally dictate his actions. Trump came up with that bullshit on the spot and it's now costing the country billions of dollars. For nothing. That said, Bernie didn't really have a realistic shot of pulling off what he was promising either.
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SiO4
09/13/19 4:35:27 AM
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Dark_Spiret posted...
SiO4 posted...
The Boys with Toys argument will never work with me.
AR's arnt toys. dont be silly.


For some, and probably for most, they are.

Could you do with out one?
In that sense does it seem a bit extravagant?

Maybe reeling in your hobby isn't such a bad thing in certain situations.

And nope. No Gun nut is overthrowing the US military, half of those mother fuckers lose their shit when two inches of snowfall.

It's all Boys with Toys and The Gun Manufactures.

Check it.
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iPhone_7
09/13/19 4:36:35 AM
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Very shortsighted move by Beto ORourke to say that.

Hes trying to make a bigger splash for the primaries but opening himself & the other Democrats up for attacks in the general election
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MudKip_Master
09/13/19 4:38:27 AM
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Fuck these guys, I'll never give up my rights.
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vigorm0rtis
09/13/19 4:41:38 AM
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MudKip_Master posted...
Fuck these guys, I'll never give up my rights.


Found the guy who watches too many movies.
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Malcrasternus
09/13/19 4:51:26 AM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
MudKip_Master posted...
Fuck these guys, I'll never give up my rights.


Found the guy who watches too many movies.


Best to just roll over.
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Heineken14
09/13/19 4:54:43 AM
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Malcrasternus posted...
vigorm0rtis posted...
MudKip_Master posted...
Fuck these guys, I'll never give up my rights.


Found the guy who watches too many movies.


Best to just roll over.


Let's be real.... almost every single one of these people who do the "hurrr durrr cold dead hands tyrannical gubment!!1" type are perfectly fine with rolling over for tyrannical governments as long as they get their pew pew sticks.
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Lonestar2000
09/13/19 4:57:04 AM
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vigorm0rtis posted...
MudKip_Master posted...
Fuck these guys, I'll never give up my rights.


Found the guy who watches too many movies.

It's ponyboy, his account won't last long.
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